Overexposed Daleks to Take a Break from Doctor Who

Bara_no_Hime

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TimeLord said:
Bara_no_Hime said:
You know, in the original Doctor Who, aside from the really early seasons, you could go for five years without bumping into a Dalek episode. They were this rare treat you got once in a blue moon.

As much as I love all the great Dalek episodes in the new series, there are now more new Dalek episodes than old ones (at least that haven't been destroyed by the BBC archives dept). That means that the Daleks have shown up more in the past 5 years than they did in the 25 years before that. That's... overkill. No pun intended.

So I'm glad the Daleks are going to be sitting out a season or two. It will make them that much more awesome when they do return.
Just so you know, the new series Daleks have appeared in 13 separate episodes (12 if you take out the Waters of Mars), but have appeared in 17 separate stories in the old series.
Yes, but how many of those 17 did the BBC archives accidentally destroy? After that, it's nearly the same number. And anyway, my point of 25 years vs 5 years still stands.
 

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I suppose I see his point. Though we've never really got to see much of the "new" Daleks (the multicoloured ones) besides a token appearance in the last season finale. I'd like, maybe, one Dalek episode this season. They are THE iconic Doctor Who villain, and I bet more people would recognise a Dalek then the Doctor. You have to have them in the show.
 

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Probably for the best. They've been in every season of the new run so far (expect the current one), including most of the season finales. It's a little much.
 

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Considering the latest batch are commonly referred to as the Mighty Morphin' Dalek Rangers, they probably left out of sheer embarrassment.
 
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A good decision, for reasons everyone has already said. I think Moffat's new series is too well thought-out for them to make a return just yet; not sure quite how they'd fit into his overarching story for this one.
 
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Mcoffey said:
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blame RTD

One of the worst TV writers I can think of.
Bullshit. The dude revitalized the Doctor, made the show number 1 again. Not to mention Torchwood: Children of Earth is some of the best television I've ever seen.

The dude gets a bad rap on the internet and I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why.
No, Herbet is right. RTD is a hack that stole a series that was cancelled unnecessarily and copy/pasted other shows onto it. Then used it as an advert for his soft-porn swearathon.
 

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True. I actually thought they had appeared in more episodes in the original given that in the old series they had more storyline episodes.
Nope. Back when I was watching in the 80s, Daleks were this rare treat. The Third Doctor never even has a Dalek episode (not counting a later 3rd Doctor guest appearance during the 5th doctor's run which had a Dalek in it for all of five minutes, if that).

Also, the 6th and 7th Doctor's Dalek episodes basically sucked. Although the 7th doctor did introduce the stair-climbing dalek. That was a frightening moment.
 

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Maybe they can come up with some way to give them their gunmetal paint jobs back, the multicolor ones are just crappy looking to me. Honestly, the only wacky paintjob I liked was that Commander one when Davros came back.

That and also give them a break so when they return it's a real shock...
 

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Mcoffey said:
HerbertTheHamster said:
blame RTD

One of the worst TV writers I can think of.
Bullshit. The dude revitalized the Doctor, made the show number 1 again. Not to mention Torchwood: Children of Earth is some of the best television I've ever seen.

The dude gets a bad rap on the internet and I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why.
Perhaps it's because of the episode where the Master turns all humans into versions of himself... for no obvious reason. I mean sure, turn every human into a devious, power hungry evil genius! That'll make it far easier to maintain control over them! If the only goal was to take control of the entire population, there must be easier ways than transforming everyone on the planet.

Or the time the Daleks decided to blow up this and every other universe because apparently that means they win.

Or the time the Doctor defeated the Master because everyone on the planet was wishing really hard.

Or the time the Daleks decided to combine a human with a Dalek, despite that going against everything they're supposed to believe in. Oh yes, and using walking pig men as troops at the same time.
 

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Now wait a minute! I remember a whole story arc with the Third Doctor were a future resistance came back in time to prevent the Daleks from taking over Earth after a nuclear war. And then there was Death to the Daleks with Sarah Jane. The Daleks blew-up the seven hundredth Wonder of the Universe, and the Third Doctor discovered they were vulnerable to the cold.
With the Third Doctor? **thinks** Oh, crap, you're right, he did get one! Ugh, my brain.

I should go watch that one again....
 

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There were two problems with the Daleks in the new series:

1) When they appeared you KNEW there was going to be some increasingly stupid plot to take over the Earth/Universe/All of fucking reality.

2) When they appeared you KNEW that the Doctor would have to come up with some increasingly stupid plan to destory the entire Dalek race forever... except for ONE that always got away to rebuilt the ENTIRE race again later.

My favourite new series episode with the Daleks was the 1st series' self titled "Dalek" which had only ONE of the metal beasties and showed how just one of these things could really be a powerful force.

What annoys me most about the Daleks is the way the writers always seem to think they are only scary when you're faced with a gazillion of them in one go. I'd like to see more episodes concerned with only a few Daleks fighting a relitively small battle. I'm fed up with the whole "army of enemies" thing. It works with the sontarans because they are essentially a military race, but the Cybermen and Daleks can be terrifying on their own too.
 

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HerbertTheHamster said:
blame RTD

One of the worst TV writers I can think of.
Yeah, because Doomsday, Utopia, and Nightmare were the worst episodes of any television show. And by that logic, Fear Her was the best.
 

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I don't understand why this is news. It wasn't news last year when there was no Cybermen stories. Oh, wait...there was the Pandorica Opens, but that wasn't really a Cybermen story so much as a villain clusterfuck.
 

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Ne1butme said:
HerbertTheHamster said:
blame RTD

One of the worst TV writers I can think of.
Yeah, because Doomsday, Utopia, and Nightmare were the worst episodes of any television show. And by that logic, Fear Her was the best.
Fear her was pretty shite. Utopia and Nightmare were awful. Doomsday was bad, but it was in series 2 so he still had some ideas which weren't shit. Remember that ghostbusters scene? that was RTD doing what he does best.

The sixth doctor also suffered from terribad writers. Good thing the actors kinda make up for it.