Overwhelmed by Oblivion

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tobi the good boy said:
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So, I, like many others got Oblivion in the Steam sale yesterday for a fiver.

I've installed a load of mods to the game so it looks great, and I balanced out the levelling with the Francesco mod (the OOO mod made the game FAR TOO HARD for an Elder Scrolls newbie like me).

I've done the first Oblivion gate and picked up Martin and I don't know what to do next. My journal is full of quests but I don't know which are easy and which are hard and I don't wanna get my arse kicked. So what quests should I do, what towns should I go to etc..

Just give us Oblivion n00bs some pointers!!
If you're a morally bankrupt fellow like myself, The Dark Brotherhood will be one of the most enjoyable questlines you could ever do. The Thieves Guild in Oblivion is by far some of the most fun shit you can do in the game and it's very Robbin hood like so even good fellows can do it. Daedric quests are always interesting and if you have the Shivering Ilse's you could do that but I think that's more end game stuff.
How do I get to/into the Thieves Guild, good sir? I am playing as a thief, and really want to know how to find my theiving brethren in Cyrodill.
 

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Lear said:
tobi the good boy said:
endtherapture said:
So, I, like many others got Oblivion in the Steam sale yesterday for a fiver.

I've installed a load of mods to the game so it looks great, and I balanced out the levelling with the Francesco mod (the OOO mod made the game FAR TOO HARD for an Elder Scrolls newbie like me).

I've done the first Oblivion gate and picked up Martin and I don't know what to do next. My journal is full of quests but I don't know which are easy and which are hard and I don't wanna get my arse kicked. So what quests should I do, what towns should I go to etc..

Just give us Oblivion n00bs some pointers!!
If you're a morally bankrupt fellow like myself, The Dark Brotherhood will be one of the most enjoyable questlines you could ever do. The Thieves Guild in Oblivion is by far some of the most fun shit you can do in the game and it's very Robbin hood like so even good fellows can do it. Daedric quests are always interesting and if you have the Shivering Ilse's you could do that but I think that's more end game stuff.
How do I get to/into the Thieves Guild, good sir? I am playing as a thief, and really want to know how to find my theiving brethren in Cyrodill.
Go to the imperial city and pay the beggars for information on the infamous 'Grey Fox' or end up in prison.
 

RipRoaringWaterfowl

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tobi the good boy said:
Lear said:
tobi the good boy said:
endtherapture said:
So, I, like many others got Oblivion in the Steam sale yesterday for a fiver.

I've installed a load of mods to the game so it looks great, and I balanced out the levelling with the Francesco mod (the OOO mod made the game FAR TOO HARD for an Elder Scrolls newbie like me).

I've done the first Oblivion gate and picked up Martin and I don't know what to do next. My journal is full of quests but I don't know which are easy and which are hard and I don't wanna get my arse kicked. So what quests should I do, what towns should I go to etc..

Just give us Oblivion n00bs some pointers!!
If you're a morally bankrupt fellow like myself, The Dark Brotherhood will be one of the most enjoyable questlines you could ever do. The Thieves Guild in Oblivion is by far some of the most fun shit you can do in the game and it's very Robbin hood like so even good fellows can do it. Daedric quests are always interesting and if you have the Shivering Ilse's you could do that but I think that's more end game stuff.
How do I get to/into the Thieves Guild, good sir? I am playing as a thief, and really want to know how to find my theiving brethren in Cyrodill.
Go to the imperial city and pay the beggars for information on the infamous 'Grey Fox' or end up in prison.
Thank you, mate! Now, to more morally bankrupt theiving and backstabbing! AWAY!
 

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My first hour in Oblivion was crazy and I'll always remember it. Got out of the sewers, wandered around blah blah found a unicorn. Jumped on that and rode around not having a clue what was going on at all. Then became the highest rank of all the guilds and then actually started the main quests.
 

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Oblivion is a good game and I'm glad you're liking it. I did not think it was as good as Morrowind though. I've not played the new one, yet.

Word to the wise though, the Oblivion gates get old, fast.
 

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Do what I did this summer when I started playing Oblivion properly on my PS3. Roll an Argonian, swing the difficultly slider all the way to the left (<---- this way) and become the bauss of Oblivion. Rolling an Argonian is optional but I feel that being a water-breathing-poison-and-disease-resistant lizard man who can make a great stealth build is badass.

Alternatively, randomly spin through your quest book and choose the most fun quest. I suggest the Thieve's Guild and Dark Brotherhood as fun questlines but they have the tendency to require some thievery before starting the Guild's quest or special requirements to be fulfilled in order to get the phat loot/awesome stuff from the DB. Also some cities have very fun quests. Now I need to get Oblivion on the PC to keep Skyrim company/mods.
 

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masticina said:
Whatever you desire

I mean it whatever you desire. One thing I suggest is to buy a house if you haven't gotten a crib yet. Storage you see for all the shiny magical items you steal.

You can put hours in improving your character different ways. For instance I have a character with 100 sneak.. seriously 100 sneak. She can crawl up to you and you wouldn't notice it. Until a deadric long sword cuts you in half [oooh sneak multiplier bonus]

I have to balance her out though as in, well morality points. See good deeds give you good karma, good points. And bad things like killing people or stealing for the thiefsguild.. bad points. If you have more bad then go you are in trouble! Because you lose the ability to heal yourself at churches. Not to mention .. people kinda are not so nice to you.

So to balance such out I now am playing a good person. Leaving some thiefing/murdering quests behind for later and now I am an upstanding member of the mages guild you see. And soon a warrior for the fighters guild.

So much to do so much to learn

I do disagree with the second poster, seriously mage... mage.. sneaky thiefs are kewl to. I can sneak behind his mage and whack him even before he knew I was there *chuckle*

I agree though that magic is kewl and useful. As thief it is an useful side ability

Really just play and enjoy whatever you play, warrior, thief, mage.. play and learn.

Oh and one of the bigger tips ever, expect your first character indeed to end up being wrong. As in that you have to deal with enemies your level but because you leveled certain skills that are weak against said enemies.. ouch you are in trouble. Then you make a new character..

I find focussing helps, again I did go the sneaky thief/assassin route. But I do get it if someone feels happier if casting a demon and then using spells.. sure! As long as you keep yourself from wanting to do everything! My thief can do magic but has a very limited amount of mana... But again enchanted bows + sneak attack multipliers help me far

Oh yeah the difficulty slider, yeah I suggest to move it a little to the left. The game has a tendency to be slightly to moronic hard for its own good. Just a slight move to the left solves that.
Everything you said is right , until you said kewl , then you lost all credibility in my eyes.

OT: Seriously though ,Do what the guy i quoted said, but ignore the 'kewl'.
 

JET1971

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Definatly loose the OOO mod, thats more of a hardcore experianced player mod. any mod that doesnt change the gameplay or balance but visual only should be fine until you learn and play the game a bit.

As for what you are doing... STOP!!!!! and dont proceed further with the main quest! go and do some of those side quests and explore the world some. exploring and other quests are a huge part of an eldar scrolls game and oblivion had many really good side quests even compared to Skyrim. Shit I think the guild quests for Oblivion were far better than Skyrims. My first time in Oblivion the first thing I did after leaving the sewers was go across the water and check out that ruin, never thought to look behind me and see a city! and the main quest? No hurry to do that I have a whole world to explore!

For anyone that says choose this skill or that... ignore them for they do not know what they say. choose what you want and run with it, it is your game and your avatar and not theres.
 

Naqel

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Start from zero.

Make sure your Major skills are skills you WON'T use.
 

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Naqel said:
Start from zero.

Make sure your Major skills are skills you WON'T use.
dont forget when running from location to location to jump and jump allot! if you have a road ahead, dont walk or run it jump!
 

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well. see,the thing is, you can do anything you want. with a murderous gleam in your eye and a maniacal grin. or not, if thats your thing. but really, thats kind of silly.
 

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Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine are pretty good, I've heard good things about the Dark Brotherhood but when I played it it just fell apart as a result of Oblivion's incredible shittiness. Fran's mod is pretty balanced as far as level scaling goes, you should be able to do pretty much anything you'd expect to be able to do. You also need something like Realistic Leveling to get rid of some of the crazy.
 

endtherapture

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Thanks for the advice!! I'm installing Deadly Reflexes at the moment to try and make combat a bit more engaging.

Just another quick question...where do you get new spells, and what are the best ones I can get for destruction and restoration at like..level 2? I have loads of scrolls from the dudes I killed in the first Oblivion gate but I can't seem to be able to write them in my spellbook or whatever.
 

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OniaPL said:
It is possible to build yourself into a corner in Oblivion, and it can severely impact your experience when you find yourself dying constantly.
I'd go as far as 'probable' over 'possible'. Oblivion's levelling is just awful (this is coming from someone who loves the game)

Skyrim did the levelling so much better, though it does become a bit of a slog fighting endless ancient dragons and Deathlords at level 45+.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
OniaPL said:
It is possible to build yourself into a corner in Oblivion, and it can severely impact your experience when you find yourself dying constantly.
I'd go as far as 'probable' over 'possible'. Oblivion's levelling is just awful (this is coming from someone who loves the game)

Skyrim did the levelling so much better, though it does become a bit of a slog fighting endless ancient dragons and Deathlords at level 45+.
Hmm, yes. I find Skyrim's leveling system to be quite an improvement over Oblivion's: While Oblivion asks you to fill the paperwork in the start that determines what your character will be, Skyrim allows the player to jump straight in and make the character as he advances in the game. I wish RPG's would do this kind of system more often, because if the class system is not the traditional "Mage, Rogue, Warrior", you often have no idea what you will end up with as the class descriptions are lacking.

However, in Skyrim it is still possible to build your character "the wrong way", even if just temporarily. My girlfriend (liked Morrowind so she wanted Skyrim. By no means a veteran gamer, so she didn't know that well what to do.) made her character, a thief/archer rogue. She was into lockpicking, alchemy, smithing and pickpocketing, because she found those skills interesting as the combat in TES has always been lacking. She also was bitten by a vampire an hour after starting the game. With interest in non-combat skills and weakness to fire, the end result was that she was constantly running away from enemies and caves, until she paid huge amounts of gold to train the skills with trainers.

My point being, the level scaling system can easily damage your experience if you do not know what you are doing. By no means should level scaling be removed; but perhaps non-combat skills would advance your level progress only half as much as the combat skills.
 

MiracleOfSound

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OniaPL said:
My point being, the level scaling system can easily damage your experience if you do not know what you are doing. By no means should level scaling be removed; but perhaps non-combat skills would advance your level progress only half as much as the combat skills.
Couldn't agree more dude. I'm not a fan of level scaling but there are probably ways just like your suggestion to make it a better system.
 

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1. do Arena quest line
2. get shit ton of gold
3. do mage questline.
4. buy shittons of spells
5. throw spells out the window, you need more mana than you can possibly get in order to use the best of them.
6. play rogue instead.
7. do dark broterhood and thieves guild
8. ?????
9. have fun for hours
 

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Bah, you weak milk drinkers and your refusal to level up. The game is FAR FAR too easy for a level 1 character. Especially one with high skills. Dont cheat yourself like that on your first playthrough, you want some challenge!
 

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Naqel said:
Start from zero.

Make sure your Major skills are skills you WON'T use.
This, Easiest way to fix the level scaling is to exploit the level up system in this manner.
Skills you want to use as secondary, keep a tally of how many times you've leveled them up, then grind one of the useless (Read: merchantile, speechcraft etc) skills to get the level up icon, go sleep, dump 5 points in to two attributes linked to your favourite skils.

Doing that you counteract the terrible level scaling because by the time you hit the level where bandits are attacking you in glass and ebony armour, you and sneeze at them and their face implodes.