Pachter: Disc-Free Xbox One Would Be "Dumb Dumb Dumb"

[Mortuorum]

So, I can save $100 and install games using the external USB Blu-Ray drive I already own? Sweet!

Except, of course, that it won't actually work because Microsoft.

 

[Ace Morologist]

Could Pachter have a point? Would Microsoft releasing a disc-less version of the Xbox One do more harm than good even at a lower entry point?

People are suckers for lower prices. It's tempting, and it might give people who are skeptical about the Kinect an excuse to try it out. (After all, that lower price is what people were saying they were willing to pay for a One without a Kinect.)

Maybe Microsoft is trying to pull focus from the idea of the forthcoming Steam console. Seems like doing that would only invite unfavorable comparisons, but they've got to address the competition somehow.

--Morology!

PS: Oh, and if there's an all-digital console, be prepared for a return of all the same DRM and borrowin stuff people got upset about after that first launch announcement.

 

[Covarr]

He's right, this is "dumb, dumb, dumb", but that doesn't mean MS won't do it.

P.S. Thanks

 

[Robert Marrs]

Tell em about it Patcher! I love this guy. Never understood the hate. He seems mostly pro-consumer and while he is not always right, I never feel like he is being dishonest. Is it because he says things that upset fanboys?

 

[Hairless Mammoth]

Huh, Pachter us still dressing up as legendary super hero Captain Obvious, and Microsoft is rumored to be doing another stupid as balls business decision. It's business as usual.

 

[Astalano]

Isn't this the guy who predicted the PC would be dead and would shrink to obscurity in a sea of strategy games?

That's why I always have my stash ready whenever Pacher opens his mouth:

 

[William Ossiss]

I like the Xbox One. (you may all not hate me for saying it)
I just wish MS would get off their lazy bums and fix a lot of the dashboard stuff.

Game invites (you want to invite a friend to your game? start a party with them. You want to be in a party without spamming game invites to everyone involved? You can't.)

Party chat (see above)

Not being able to access your hard drive (seriously? I need that. Demos still sit on my XBO even though I'm not using them. Stop treating me like I'm an imbecile and computer illiterate.)

Even more strict open nat (didn't figure that one out on the 360.)

That being said, those are about my only gripes. I still plan on getting the PS4 and Wii U. Then I will let the company rivalry play to my favor. Hey.. Just had a thought. If everyone did that, then wouldn't we just be getting better games?

OT I like not having a disc tray. That was the main problem of the 360 in terms of over heating. That said, there aren't really any games out that I want to play right now anyway. I have Zoo Tycoon, which is good for a laugh every so often.

Wake me when Mass Effect comes out.

 

[PMAvers]

I will say I vastly prefer digital, and would probably buy a disc-less XBone over the more pricey one if I ever had a reason to actually purchase one.

The "reason to get one" is the big sticking point right now.

 

[Crimsonmonkeywar]

Allow me to add a couple of more "Dumbs" in to the mix there Patcher, if they seriously go that rout instead of just having an X1 that drops the Kinect, hell even the DVR function, then they're just asking for it imo. It may be able to work for a steambox, but that thing has years of build up to support it, MS.....you do not.

 

[COMaestro]

If Microsoft actually dropped the prices of their digital content to match the prices of the physical games you find in stores, this would have a chance of working out. More so if they just dropped $5 off the retail price of each game from the get-go. Of course, they won't do this though

It also totally defeats the purpose of their "all in one" media center they tried to advertise the XOne as though, since it would not be able to play the CD/DVD/BluRay discs people already own.

Plus, people would then just be clamoring for a Kinect-less bundle for $299.

I agree with Pachter's statement, but not his reasoning. Retailers would still see Xbox points, or whatever the hell they are doing now, and people could buy codes in stores for game downloads, so that still leaves plenty of options for retailers. Additionally, MS is probably taking a loss on the console anyway, so I think most people already assume it is overpriced. And everyone already knows MS is greedy. That is nothing new. If MS is willing to lose even more money per console, that's on them, but would just be another reason it's a stupid idea.

 

[StriderShinryu]

Given that a cheaper One would actually be better released as is but without the packed in Kinect, and the fact that Blu Ray sized games are just way too big for most people to download, I'd say he's right. It would be a very stupid idea. Download only works on portables and PC because the average game size is a lot smaller. It just wouldn't work on a console yet.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

Fuck, now Microsoft's gonna go through with it after all. And everyone will buy it. And consumer rights will be crushed under the iron thumb of an indifferent AAA industry.

PATCHER HAS DOOMED US ALL

 

[S0nofKrypton]

Legion, I absolutely love, love, LOVE your avatar picture. What is it from?

 

[Strazdas]

I dunno... I think it's pretty unlikely that he'll be right a second time...

considering that hes been right around 30 times, with his score being around 50% accuracy which in business like this, considering he gets paid nothing for it, is amazingly high. so yeah its very likely.

I've already refuted several of Pachter's previous oracle readings and he clearly has an anti-Microsoft bias.

While I agree that a disc-less XBone would not sell well, it's hardly "one of the dumbest ideas of all time."

Patcher obviuosly has anti-nintendo, anti-Microsoft and anti-Sony bias. because whenever he says something bad about them there are always people proclaiming this. You know what, he just hates gaming and wants it to die obviuosly!
and discless gaming console is simply unfeasable. this is for the simple fact that many old world countries have despicable internet ifnrastructure that would look good in the 90s or early 00s, not in 2014.

That's because all he does is read gaming forums and then presents the majority opinion as his own thoughts and analysis.

because thats what analysts do. analyze. he may read game forums and see that majority of people are oppsoed to such idea, which means that they will not like it, hence it would not make them happy, makingit a dumb idea. if you are doing something that makes your purchasers hate you your doing it wrong. he sees that it would be one of those things because he analyzed the gamer demographic opinions. you know, being analyst.
seriuosly though, is it me or does most people here dont even know what analysts do?

Tell em about it Patcher! I love this guy. Never understood the hate. He seems mostly pro-consumer and while he is not always right, I never feel like he is being dishonest. Is it because he says things that upset fanboys?

if you say something on the internet once and it proves to be false, they will remind you about it for years to come, but if you were right, they will quickly forget it. therefore the more you talk the more hated you become, and Patcher talked a lot.