Either way he hangs him. If he is telling the truth, he hangs him because thats what he asked. If he is lying, he still hangs him. You never explained what would happen if he was telling the truth.
Yes, because he is lying about lying.RabidusUnus said:He won't hang him.
A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?
GloatingSwine said:Even in that case, you would have to show that the man coming to be hanged knew that the hangman only hanged people who lied about why they had come to him. If he did not know that he was still not lying, that was truthfully the reason he had come to the hill.Danman1 said:I think the OP meant that the hangman ONLY hangs people who lie about where they are going. So suppose he refuses to hang people who have not lied. That means that the man will still end up being a liar because he cannot be hanged. But now that he can be hanged he is telling the truth. So he must be set free and not hanged, which makes him a liar.
Ah, you were doing so well up until the end there. It doesn't make him a lier, if he came with the intention of being hanged and was simply unable to make that happen due to circumstances, that doesn't make his previous proclamation a lie.Danman1 said:I think the OP meant that the hangman ONLY hangs people who lie about where they are going. So suppose he refuses to hang people who have not lied. That means that the man will still end up being a liar because he cannot be hanged. But now that he can be hanged he is telling the truth. So he must be set free and not hanged, which makes him a liar.Trivun said:He hangs the guy. It's pretty simple, this is by no means a paradox.
Scenario: The guy is lying and doesn't want to be hanged. Then he should be hanged by the hangman's own rules.
Scenario: The guy is telling the truth and wants to be hanged. Then the hangman has no qualms about hanging him anyway. It then becomes a moral problem instead.
What about time paradoxes? I can think a solution to some of them, but not to all of them.yoyo13rom said:No he isn't. But he's just lying now.RabidusUnus said:He won't hang him.
A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?
If he were telling the truth, then what he's saying now is nullifying his actions.
But if he doesn't lie all the time, he can lie sometimes. So now he is lying.
OT: The hangman hangs only those who lie, so:
1. the dude isn't lying but the hangman can't fulfill his wish.
2. the dude didn't came to be hanged, but by saying he did, he lied. So the hangman will kill him.
In my opinion, there are no real possible paradoxes, just good logic games, or problems that are wrong, or missing something.
That's not a paradox, that's just recursion. And it's still possible for the story to end, the guy is just being a dick and telling a silly tale.Beardon65 said:Ummm.... No? Yes?
FYI that's not a parodox THIS however is a parodox: A man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished. So the man said: One day a man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished. So the man said: One day a man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished. So the man said: One day a man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished. So the man said: One day a man is held hostage and is told he will die if he doesn't tell him a story and he'll kill him once he's finished... it will never stop.
But the Hangman still thinks the man must be lying. So as a whole it's not a paradox, but to the hangman it creates one. So the man must have known the problem he created, and set the hangman in a loop of hanging and not hanging. Thus saving liars from being murdered. So really it's more of an uplifting story than a paradoxHexenwolf said:Ah, you were doing so well up until the end there. It doesn't make him a lier, if he came with the intention of being hanged and was simply unable to make that happen due to circumstances, that doesn't make his previous proclamation a lie.Danman1 said:I think the OP meant that the hangman ONLY hangs people who lie about where they are going. So suppose he refuses to hang people who have not lied. That means that the man will still end up being a liar because he cannot be hanged. But now that he can be hanged he is telling the truth. So he must be set free and not hanged, which makes him a liar.Trivun said:He hangs the guy. It's pretty simple, this is by no means a paradox.
Scenario: The guy is lying and doesn't want to be hanged. Then he should be hanged by the hangman's own rules.
Scenario: The guy is telling the truth and wants to be hanged. Then the hangman has no qualms about hanging him anyway. It then becomes a moral problem instead.
...What's a paradox about that. He's telling the truth so nothing happens.urgh76 said:A real Paradox is if Pinocchio says "My nose will grow now"
adoptedOptimusPrime33 said:He doesn't hang him? It's pretty damn simple dude, not a paradox.
EDIT: this would be a paradox, Two people from the same universe, with the same home planet, and the same name, with the same parents BUT different grandparents, brothers and sisters are what?
THAT is how you do it men! - Soldier, TF2
Because it's the same picture and I mainly concentrate on pictures for first orientationOptimusPrime33 said:what do you mean? how does it confuse you?Quaxar said:His head explodes because of the paradox, causing a shockwave that kills the man too. Tough luck
Wow, your new avatar confuses me. I almost thought I'd postet thatOptimusPrime33 said:-snip-