Resident Furry Pimp
- May 8, 2011
What about the other person? He made a decision to work with Maulbeck. He made a decision to work with a belligerent manchild, and no he has to pay the price for his foolish antics. Keep in mind, this 'company' is two people. You can't 'fire' the co-founder when you're in the exac same position. You have to leave and disband.Bat Vader said:What if they fired that person though? Again, people seem to be forgetting this entire error all started with Steam not updating the game from being out of early access. Do you think Valve should have issued monetary compensation for potential lost sales or issued an apology because of a fault with their Steam storefront?Denamic said:A primary developer representing the developer name made a death threat to the platform selling their game. It is perfectly 600% sensible to permanently ban that developer from Steam. If someone were to make a death threat to anyone I work with, I'd have that person and whatever company he represented permanently blacklisted. I'd even reach out to other people I know and get them blacklisted by them too.Bat Vader said:That's still unfair to the other guy though. It's especially unfair since someone at Valve was the one that messed up in the first place by not taking the game out of early access when it was supposed to be. I get that it was most likely a non-human error but did valve even try to compensate them for potential sales lost? Even an apology would have most likely sufficed but I don't remember seeing anyone at Valve issue one.albino boo said:Bat Vader said:I think it is BS the original developers had to sell the rights to the game to get it back on Steam. Valve getting angry at the developer as a whole because one guy said something stupid was extremely petty. Even after the developer made it so that it was optional to interact with that person Valve still wouldn't allow the game back on Steam.
Honestly though I feel this could have all been avoided if Valve had offered monetary compensation for all the potential sales that were lost because of how long it took the Steam storefront to say it wasn't in early access anymore.
Both sides were wrong in how they went about things.There are only two people working at Code Avarice and one of them made a death threat. Thats a 50% death threat making employee ratio, not entirely an attractive percentage. I think this comes under the games are not special category, in any other line of work making a death threat would result in consequences. Do you think the head of Ford will accept a death threat from one his suppliers? Why are games somehow different from that makes death threats acceptable business practice.ZiggyE said:Holding an entire company because of one guy on twitter is pretty juvenile. Seems a lot of innocent people had their livelihoods placed in jeopardy because a colleague behaved poorly on twitter. I don't really see how anyone can endorse's Valve's actions in this case. Considering they indeed to keep this blockade against Code Avarice in place simply for the actions of this one guy, I think they need to be more mindful of their status as a monopoly when it comes to PC game digital distribution.
The guy who made the "threats", is he some kind of higher up at the studio? The founder? Director? Can't say I know too much about the guy.
EDIT: Apparently he's the co-founder. I guess it's somewhat understandable, but the whole situation leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Make this kinds of threats in a business, any threats really, even in jest, and you're committing economic suicide. You've no one to blame but yourself.
If I made a game and I potentially lost sales due to an error that wasn't my fault I would be pretty angry. I wouldn't issue a death threat or anything like that but I would expect an apology at the least.
Just to wave all of this off just because of "the other person" would be foolish. Yeah, it isn't fair for the other person, but the other person knew his partner was a manchild. Valve doesn't owe Maulbeck or his partner anything. I'd also be angry if I were this person, but I wouldn't be angry at Valve, I'd be angry that Maulbeck ruined any hopes I had at succeeding in this career.