Paranormal oppression
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If you mean sleeping paralysis, that's definitely not the same thing. If not, I did experience a dream continue two seconds after I woke up, and it was neither the same thing. I was trying to sleep, which usually means I'm far from actually sleeping, let alone waking up.Cliff_m85 said:
While I reamin open to new theories and evidence, I remain convinced there is little to nothing in paranormal phenomena. There is no supporting evidence, no repeatable experiments, merely a plethora of anecdotal evidence, such as the list you gave, and while you may personally have been convinced, it really doesn't count for much. Modern schoos of science are showing us that the workings of the universe are far more subtle and elegant than the model offered by mystics and adherants to all this smoke and mirrors bollocks.
In all honesty, before I met my witch friend I was a complete atheist and very skeptical of the paranormal, but he has shown me things that cannot be faked like influencing the weather and predicting things before they happen. I've seen him standing on the beach during a perfectly calm evening, telling me he's going to try and make waves strong enough to soak some random passer-by, then seeing it actually happen.Cliff_m85 said:
And...... scientology =/= paranomal shit.
Paganism does not stop you from dying / getting the sniffles.
supernatural - 
:
1) not existing in nature or subject to explanation according to natural laws; not physical or material;
2) above nature; that which is beyond nature;
In this case, nature is anything that exists in the universe. Therefore, supernatural is outside this universe. Therefore, no, I do not believe in it.
However, show me proof of something like a ghost or telekinesis (which I concede may be possible) or the like and I will revise my stand.
:1) not existing in nature or subject to explanation according to natural laws; not physical or material;
2) above nature; that which is beyond nature;
In this case, nature is anything that exists in the universe. Therefore, supernatural is outside this universe. Therefore, no, I do not believe in it.
However, show me proof of something like a ghost or telekinesis (which I concede may be possible) or the like and I will revise my stand.
Direct the witch to randi.org for him to collect his easy 1 million dollar reward.neuromantic said:
A basic understanding of nature is necessary to 'predict' weather. I told my brother it was going to rain early in the morning on a walk, the skies were clear. Twenty minutes later on our way back it started to pour.
"Wow," he exclaimed, "how'd you predict that?"
The ant-hills on the side of the road were quite a bit higher.
Same with watching crests on the water. All you need to do is see when a crest is forming properly and then tell a gullible person "Hey, I'm going to do some magick and have waves form".
Basic trick to fool people.
Get a deck of cards, an envelope, a piece of paper, and a pen.
Shuffle the cards, make a note of what card is the very top card.
Tell your 'victim' to hover their hand over the deck and place your hand on it.
Take a piece of paper and write what the card on the top is without letting the 'victim' see.
Tell them you know what card they will choose because you are a psychic.
Put the card in the envelope and let them seal it, write their name on it, and keep it in their pocket.
Have your 'victim' cut the deck of cards. Place the top half verticle and place the bottom half horizontal, thus making the top card be in the direct middle.
Distract the person with any method, ask if they want a drink, whatever.
Push the middle card out and have the victim pull it out, it will be the top card.
Let the victim show it to the audience. Let 'em take their time. Smile smuggly.
Watch them open the envelope.
Get a deck of cards, an envelope, a piece of paper, and a pen.
Shuffle the cards, make a note of what card is the very top card.
Tell your 'victim' to hover their hand over the deck and place your hand on it.
Take a piece of paper and write what the card on the top is without letting the 'victim' see.
Tell them you know what card they will choose because you are a psychic.
Put the card in the envelope and let them seal it, write their name on it, and keep it in their pocket.
Have your 'victim' cut the deck of cards. Place the top half verticle and place the bottom half horizontal, thus making the top card be in the direct middle.
Distract the person with any method, ask if they want a drink, whatever.
Push the middle card out and have the victim pull it out, it will be the top card.
Let the victim show it to the audience. Let 'em take their time. Smile smuggly.
Watch them open the envelope.
One of my 'uncles' always thought I was an Indigo Child. I forget what they are....... I'll get back too you on that.Blood_Lined said:
edit- An indigo child is someone who possesses at trait (mainly a paranormal trait). An example of an indigo child is a medium. I'm not all too sure what trait I have. But I'm not a medium. But quiet a few family members look towards the paranormal and the work of god (which interests me) So they can easily tell indigo children and stuff like that. It's a little hard to explain ^_^
You think that children might, you know, not be educated and would be more susceptible to believing in folk psychology? You know, that the shapes they see in the night are rational agents which are out to get them?
The human mind excels at tricking itself.
http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_dennett_on_dangerous_memes.html
That's not the right one. Here we go. -> http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_dennett_on_our_consciousness.html
The human mind excels at tricking itself.
http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_dennett_on_dangerous_memes.html
That's not the right one. Here we go. -> http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_dennett_on_our_consciousness.html
Children's imaginations can cause them to believe they actually experience something, ie. hallucinate.
I myself experienced some such things in my childhood, yet even then I was aware that I had caused myself to see it by thinking too much about it.
I'm not one of those people who says, "Oh there's no way ghosts exist, there's an explanation for everything", in fact I do believe there's atleast a possibility ghosts exist. But in this case, there is an explanation. The human mind is a powerful thing, especially in cildren.
I myself experienced some such things in my childhood, yet even then I was aware that I had caused myself to see it by thinking too much about it.
I'm not one of those people who says, "Oh there's no way ghosts exist, there's an explanation for everything", in fact I do believe there's atleast a possibility ghosts exist. But in this case, there is an explanation. The human mind is a powerful thing, especially in cildren.
I think it's just imagination, and how kids feel things more strongly.
I used to be able to make strange and complex symbols and diagrams when I was younger, simply by letting my arm go limp. I thought I was a messenger for the demonic Overworld.
Turns out it was just a controllable twitch.
I'd like for all that paranormal junk to exist, but until that proof presents itself, my opinions aren't budging.
Although, my family always has had a "ghost" who we called Poof, who would take things away that we wanted at the moment, but leave things that we wanted before in plain sight.
I used to be able to make strange and complex symbols and diagrams when I was younger, simply by letting my arm go limp. I thought I was a messenger for the demonic Overworld.
Turns out it was just a controllable twitch.
I'd like for all that paranormal junk to exist, but until that proof presents itself, my opinions aren't budging.
Although, my family always has had a "ghost" who we called Poof, who would take things away that we wanted at the moment, but leave things that we wanted before in plain sight.
ARRGHHH!!! GHOST BAR GRAPH!!SODAssault said:
...sorry, that was my impression of someone who sees things that aren't there and thinks irrationally...I'm really fed up of these paranormal threads...
The problem with that argument is that your mind will try and make sense of what you saw or heard. My friend, when he stilled believed in Santa Claus at an age a lot later than most, said that, as a child, he was in bed with his parents on the night of Christmas. They had just moved into the area, so they knew no-one, and they had no pets. Yet he could swear he heard the moving of wrapping-paper, footsteps, and perhaps a cough.
He was convinced for about six years more than most people that Santa existed because of this, and his parents kept it going because they liked it. They admitted to me, at the time, that one of them had gotten up and put the presents out during the night. My friend, a child and excited, perhaps didn't notice the fact that someone had left the bed, or was perhaps in that state of half-asleep where you memory is just plain selective.
I'm not trying to disprove you in any way, its just that the proof I have been provided is always from children. While This could link to the fact that children have a link to paranormal events, you could make just as strong an arguement for the fact that schizophrenics experience more paranormal events.
He was convinced for about six years more than most people that Santa existed because of this, and his parents kept it going because they liked it. They admitted to me, at the time, that one of them had gotten up and put the presents out during the night. My friend, a child and excited, perhaps didn't notice the fact that someone had left the bed, or was perhaps in that state of half-asleep where you memory is just plain selective.
I'm not trying to disprove you in any way, its just that the proof I have been provided is always from children. While This could link to the fact that children have a link to paranormal events, you could make just as strong an arguement for the fact that schizophrenics experience more paranormal events.
