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Jegsimmons

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ace_of_something said:
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I actually agree with the parents. They knew their kid was a whiny brat, and he seems to be mean spirited ("Junkie *****" and being ungrateful) and I don't think that's the kind of kid who should play video games without restrictions. It was definitely not illegal for the parents to throw the Xbox away (after all they likely bought it and it is their kid, they should be able to parent him the way they want). I think the police officers had no right to do that.
After speaking to "Mr. Wood" he said that all the games were rated E or Teen. No M games. Also there were something like 40 games.
EDIT: OMG ESCAPIST QUIT POSTING BEFORE I HIT ENTER. Sorry, what I was about to say was:
Police are obligated to try their best to recover items reported 'stolen.' Granted they could have given the items directly to their parents but technically it goes to 'the aggrieved party' they actually could've gotten in trouble for not going and finding those things.

Jegsimmons said:
and this has to do with rich people how?
seriously, besides the parents being over protective what relevance does this have with anything?

and why are rich people bad when most worked for their wealth and usually provide jobs for people?

why are rich people being stereotyped?
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What does that have to do with rich people? You don't have to be rich to be a moron and have a spoiled child.
That's what it's called 'we don't like rich people EITHER' everyone says cops hate poor people/minorities or whatever.
Though I guess this rich family were all minorities as well. (I'm told they were east Indian)

To put it in perspective their home was probably in the 4500 sq foot range.
well there is some clarification that was needed earlier.
I thought 'gated community' would've tipped people off. Guess not.
The point isn't that they were rich. It's that they were idiots and rude. After speaking to "Mr. Wood" I can assure they are not the type of rich people that make jobs. I don't want to specifically say for someone with good google fu could figure out who they are.
im from the south, trailer parks have gates.
 

richd213

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Mum and dad should have been arrested then given the electric chair. Junior should have been forced to work off his debt to society in a penal colony for the rest of his life.

But yeah, parents are arseholes.
 

ZenMonkey47

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Jr.'s defiantly a jerk, though given what we know from the story this behavior was most likely learned from his mother and father.

Even if their motives were pure (though I find their morality dubious at best) the underhanded way that they went about it shows that they need to pull the plank out of their own eye before worrying about the speck of sawdust in their son's.
 

Asehujiko

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I'd have charged the parents for the theft, or at least the damaged property. And sic a parenting coach on them. They're obviously and willfully at fault for everything that's wrong in this situation.

Kid needs a chill pill but given the situation, I would be pissed too.
 

magnuslion

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OP: Congrats to your mates on having the patients of saints. I would have dragged the parents down to the jailhouse for a nice sit in the tank with mr.crackhead and mr.Rapist. I can understand feeling like the kid was being a jerk, but really he just does not know the whole story and thus who to aim his ire at.

also: for fucks sake please tell me this couple are now on a government list somewhere to assure they do not have anymore children.
 

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And this kind of shit is pretty common? Being called out because a bunch of people are fucking morons?

I mean, I guessed it wouldn't exactly be catching bad guys all day every day, but I figured people would avoid bothering the police for stupid shit because, you know, they're the fucking police.

Thinking on it, I'm not entirely sure why I figured that.
 

Ghengis John

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If they were poor people you'd have dragged them all down to the station.

/troll. (I kid)

But seriously, the parents are afraid to confront their child? It sounds like somebody has made some terrible decisions up to this point. I actually feel kind of sorry for the kid. He's only the way he is because of how he's been raised.
 

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You know what annoys me? Stupid generalisations.

Just say spoiled people. Or at worst spoiled rich people. If a poor person did something like this and I said I don't like poor people, I'd get jumped on by a bunch of liberals and people fro equality and called a bastard and all of this. Please, lets try to keep double standards off of The Escapist, it's one of the few forums I can come on to escape them.
 

Daveman

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What does them being rich have to do with it? Seems like they were just plain old idiots.
 

Count Igor

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It seems a fair few people here are getting rather high and mighty at the "Rich people" mention.
Well I'd say it'd change the situation a fair bit! If you were living on minimum wage, would you really throw out an Xbox? 'Zactly.
Though I think the title is a bit of a joke. Seeing as a lot of people see police officers as hating a lot of the working class, and sucking up to the Rich.
But that's my view.

Also, you rock.
That's my input.
(Oh, and the whole family are morons. None more than the other.)
 

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Jegsimmons said:
im from the south, trailer parks have gates.
The house where I grew up has a gate, that doesn't make it a gated community. An actual gated community is highly exclusive and prohibitively expensive, with all sorts of neighborhood watch associations and homeowners' associations and people who have nothing better to do than take a ruler to your lawn and get on your case if it's a quarter-inch outside regulations. Usually the idea is to give rich people who don't have anything useful to do someplace where they won't worry about the fact that people who DO have something useful to do resent them; in practice it usually means they worry even more, because not only are they actually advertising their wealth, they're clustered together with other rich people, making thieves' jobs that much easier.
 

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Wait, I'm confused. Why is it illegal for the parents to throw away the Xbox 360?
I think if it is a gift, then it legally belongs to the person that they gave it to, unless they can provide proof that the person who recieved the gift promised to pay them back. So technically and legally it belongs to the child. I don't know for certain, but that is how I understand it.
 

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They're all jerks, the parents were slightly bigger jerks, but they seemed to have morphed junior into being a jerk as well. If they had a problem with games and all that "devil stuff" why'd they let it into their house in the first place?
And if they figured that junior would have the reaction he did, then they knowingly wasted the police's time, which is a horrible inconvenience at best.
 
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RatRace123 said:
They're all jerks, the parents were slightly bigger jerks, but they seemed to have morphed junior into being a jerk as well. If they had a problem with games and all that "devil stuff" why'd they let it into their house in the first place?
And if they figured that junior would have the reaction he did, then they knowingly wasted the police's time, which is a horrible inconvenience at best.
^^^ what he said.

And @OP that as a entertaining read, care to share any more stories?

(captcha: orwans concept. And what concept is that?)
 

jakefongloo

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just gotta say the fact that you're a cop and you have stryker (striker?) as your avatar is fucking awesome.

Now I'm a very faithful person however I think religion is an absolute mockery of what it means to be faithful. I pray every night because I believe in god not because I believe in Christianity or Judaism or whatever. The reason I bring this up is because I believe this child has been put in this situation with these kind of parents to better himself and learn from not only his mistakes but theirs as well. They also have given you a story which you then reported on this site and to which one point in the story is actually very relevant to a situation I am having right now. I think I know what to do to make my situation better now... Good thing for coincidence huh?
 

Dalek Caan

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The parents are idiots, your colleges were doing the right thing. Maybe if the parents hadn't thrown away the Xbox it might still be working, or not. The RROD works in strange ways. Pass on my compliments to the detectives for doing their job and doing it well.
 

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Monkfish Acc. said:
And this kind of shit is pretty common? Being called out because a bunch of people are fucking morons?
You'd be shocked what people will call the police for. I was called out to a burger king because a woman said she was "mugged" (her exact words). When we got there she was mad because they messed up her order and they refused to fix it. The matter was resolved by me and my patrol-partner in this way.
We made BK change her goddamn order. While she ate in the parking lot I told the manager how that was pretty poor business practice he said "she comes in all the time and does this, so that she doesn't have to pay. I've had enough".
So feeling generous I went to the ladies car explained her the situation and let her know that the manager is allowed to call me if she comes back. Ever. I also charged her with false reporting of a misdemeanor. Telling her technically I could do it for a felony since she said 'mugged.'
She threatened to sue me personally. That was like 8 years ago... still waiting...

I'm sure I could think of more If I tried.

You'd be amazed at how often we get called cuz two neighbors' screaming match is about to erupt into blows over something so fucking trivial. (He runs his sprinklers at night! It's messing up my lawn!)
 

ace_of_something

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ravensheart18 said:
I think the parents were cowards.

And I think you and the other officers are disgraceful if you judged that wealth level had anything to do with this story as described.

Also since when does "closed case" allow you to breach confidentiality? Maybe the laws are different where you are...but this OP smells.

It's just the title. No one judged them on their wealth level. It was the behavior. Damn people are touchy maybe I should just change it? You're right to be suspicious anyone could claim such things on the Internets. I am however for reals.

Cases that have no chance of going to court are allowed to be discussed. This is typically an 'unofficial rule' Besides anything marked "closed" is absolutely public record and allowed to be discussed.
How do you think so many cops go on to write autobiographies?

Alexander Cunningham said:
And @OP that as a entertaining read, care to share any more stories?
(captcha: orwans concept. And what concept is that?)
Sure they're scattered on the site but a lot of them are in [a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.177017-Ask-a-detective-undercover-cop?page=1]Here.[/a] I believe educating the public (even the global public) is important for good community relations.
Maybe me talking to you guys will help you be more forthcoming/cooler to the cops in your area.
 

ace_of_something

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Tree man said:
ace_of_something said:
Monkfish Acc. said:
And this kind of shit is pretty common? Being called out because a bunch of people are fucking morons?
You'd be shocked what people will call the police for. I was called out to a burger king because a woman said she was "mugged" (her exact words). When we got there she was mad because they messed up her order and they refused to fix it. The matter was resolved by me and my patrol-partner in this way.
We made BK change her goddamn order. While she ate in the parking lot I told the manager how that was pretty poor business practice he said "she comes in all the time and does this, so that she doesn't have to pay. I've had enough".
So feeling generous I went to the ladies car explained her the situation and let her know that the manager is allowed to call me if she comes back. Ever. I also charged her with false reporting of a misdemeanor. Telling her technically I could do it for a felony since she said 'mugged.'
She threatened to sue me personally. That was like 8 years ago... still waiting...

I'm sure I could think of more If I tried.

You'd be amazed at how often we get called cuz two neighbors' screaming match is about to erupt into blows over something so fucking trivial. (He runs his sprinklers at night! It's messing up my lawn!)
I have had horrible experience with perfectly fine police officers being stopped by some politically bullshit.

MY four week old brother cries at night, normal, my paranoid next door neighbor bangs on the walls, thinks we have listening devices in our microwave to monitor her and then calls up her family to literally shout abuse at my mother who had recently given birth.

we called the police, the group left and when we tried to file a complaint we got the reply that she was 'unstable' and therefore not responsible for her own actions meaning we couldn't do shit against her.

The look on officers face when he told us this was like he had just swallowed shit, the entire road despises this victimizing ***** next door who harrases everyone and because she has a large equally vulgar family nearby thinks that she can control us.

Which is then pretty much proven when the policemen say they can't legally so anything because the ***** is insane, god the system is flawed.

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man that felt good to get off my chest.
The shit? Disturbing the peace and disorderly conduct can be charged to the mentally challenged. It can ESPECIALLY be charged to her family members. This sounds extra stupid. I'm sorry you're in that situation. File a complaint with the city and or county. Whatever your local procedures are. There is no reason this should be allowed to go on. If they can't handle the person with that problem they should put them in an assisted living home.

Tons of the guys in jail are on anti-psychotic meds. (or anti-depressants. you should see pill time)