PC is "Far Superior" to Next-Gen Consoles, Says Nvidia

[Covarr]

Vsync is off.

I always turn it off when investigating how well the game can run on my pc.

And when on max, its at 30-40 fps when I am just exploring an island, on ship battles it could very well drop to like, 20.

I don't play it on max, but the fact that I can't at a decent framerate pisses me off, as my card more than meets the recommended requirements, and can run Far Cry 3 on Max at a constant 60fps.

Ubisoft's PC ports are pretty hit and miss (more miss). Unlike other companies, they do take PC pretty seriously, it's just they're incapable of actually getting it right.

P.S. Thanks

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

He's right, of course. The PC has the upper hand in pretty much every aspect apart from the initial pricetag.
However, it might be easy to forget that people who own consoles are extremely likely to own a PC as well. And PC's grow old and need renewals every now and again, too. The choice doesn't quite exactly lie between getting a PC or a console to get games on. It lies between getting a better PC than you would otherwise, or a new console.

The cost for a PC doesn't go away for a household buying a console, but the opposite is true. A console is a pure luxury item, while a PC is not.
With that in mind, the difference in cost for the household instead lies between the cost of a high-end PC minus the cost of a low-end one, vs a console.

And of course PC games are much cheaper than their console brethrens, but, y'know... details.

^ This.

I am reminded of MovieBob saying how PCs will become redundant in the coming years, and yet, it has had a massive surge in popularity, hell, a lot of dedicated gamers are snapping up gaming pcs instead of consoles.

Should anybody really listen to "Movie"Bob when he talks about video games? I don't think they should. He made the same mistake other business analysts made, he confused PC as a gaming platform and PC as what most people use them for, porn and word processing. The "hardcore" video game market is growing and that means all players in that market will grow, that includes pc gaming, farmville doesn't require anything more than a cellphone, but farmville is not "hardcore" gaming, it's not at all the same audience, it's barely the same commodity. To play these games you need a powerful system, far more powerful than any hand held device, it doesn't have to be stationary but the more mobile it is the more it will cost, a gaming PC is actually a cheaper solution to a mobile device capable of playing these games.

MovieBob also said that PCs would cease to be the device they were, a single computer with a single small screen in the corner of the house, for years before he said that I had already spent my $20 to buy a single cable that turned my PC from a device in the corner to a living room device, it won't be long before I'll be able to cloud compute from my PC to any device I own. Until computing is a free commodity it will make the most sense to buy a PC. A personal computing hub won't go away, it's reach will only increase, and because a console only allows proprietary computing a PC of some sort will always be necessary until society no longer uses computing in our daily lives, which will only be if society collapses.

No, not really.

He suffers quite a bit from Nintendo-stalgia, and is incredibly dismissive of modern gaming.

It's just that that video stuck out to me as I knew a lot of people like him(of the same mindset regarding that subject) and since it annoyed me and still does when I watch it, I want to ridicule the video for existing.

Seriously, it's an opinion show, yes, but it sounded like a direct response to something that someone said to Bob regarding PC Games.

Like he made that episode especially to piss off the guy that pissed him off or something.

 

[rofltehcat]

Even that third party Steambox they showcased a few days ago had a AMD GPU... I think they are starting to panic. Even if PC gaming does great this console generation, Nvidia will be in for some very hard years.

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

Vsync is off.

I always turn it off when investigating how well the game can run on my pc.

And when on max, its at 30-40 fps when I am just exploring an island, on ship battles it could very well drop to like, 20.

I don't play it on max, but the fact that I can't at a decent framerate pisses me off, as my card more than meets the recommended requirements, and can run Far Cry 3 on Max at a constant 60fps.

Ubisoft's PC ports are pretty hit and miss (more miss). Unlike other companies, they do take PC pretty seriously, it's just they're incapable of actually getting it right.

P.S. Thanks

The thing is, everything up to ACIII was relatively good in terms of porting.

AnvilNext just does not want to get along with PC.

Or rather, Ubisoft are dickish when it comes to PC Gaming.

 

[thiosk]

Nvidia hath sworn fealty to the Throne of GabeN
May all bask in the glory of thy greenish glow

ahem

Yep, PC is pretty sweet. Kerbal Space Program man. You just can't get shit like this on a console.
I just did a sample return mission from Duna. Came in to a retrograde polar orbit. Didn't think I'd get home, but managed to get equatorial with some repeated aerobraking and inclination burns, got the lander back on the ground, and had just enough fuel to dock the transfer stage (took some more aerobraking)

Spoiler: Sunrise over Duna

im very proud of myself

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Oh look a few months further down the line and Nvidia goes to sing the same tune once more, yeah they still ain't sore from their deal with Sony and MS from what I can see.

Also really?, I have a PC myself but I'm not from that tiny super intelligent "know everything in and out" faction of PC enthusiasts that know exactly 100% what parts to get and where, along with my taste of trying to mod games my games over the years has been less than stellar due to how annoying most of them are to implement and the payoff is not worth it most of the time for me.

A friend of mine wants to build himself a new model next year and so do I, only he's got the money to dish out for DDR4 RAM and I will not which just makes me think what's the point in even upgrading anything when prices for most hardware is high?. I'll also finish this little rant with a big "no I do not need help from any PC person here on how to build a new model" since the decision has already been made.

 

[Toadfish1]

"Company that makes all its money from convincing PC gamers to buy their products says its products are better than alternative".

Seriously, why is this even being reported?

 

[Andy Shandy]

No shit, Nvidia we're all aware of some PCs technical superiority over consoles. You're just sore that all the big three console makers went with AMD instead of your stuff. You might not look so desperate if you didn't make pretty much the exact same statement about 3 months ago.

 

[Colt47]

It's almost as if Nvidia forgets that the primary reason consoles exist is to provide a stable, low maintenance means of enjoying video game software. The PC will always be better than consoles as far as performance, but it pays for it in stability and a need for regular maintenance.

 

[Toadfish1]

"Company that makes all its money from convincing PC gamers to buy their products says its products are better than alternative".

Seriously, why is this even being reported?

The Escapist has to cater to their largest audience, otherwise they run risk of losing clicks.

By repeating advertising verbatim?

 

[Abomination]

Up next sports team A states that sports team A is the best.

Sports team B responds stating sports team B is the best.

Sports team C makes a declaration that it is better than both sports teams A & B.

 

[misg]

Pc's are superior in many ways but my main reason to stick with my PC is price. Simply when you add in all the games I can get for 5-10 bucks even AAA titles. It's no contest. Yes I can easily spend more then 1k on my pc but yearly upgrades are small if I choose. When my PC I already own close to 500 games plus all the free to play titles out there. If I bought an Xbox1 or PS4 400-500 for the console I could easily drop another 600 on games and still only have 10 to play. End of the day PC wins it's a better experience, more versatility, and cost over all the long run way cheaper to stay current with your games.

 

[truckspond]

PC has a larger library including EVERY previous console generation and the GTX Titan kicks the crap out of EVERY consoles GPU so it's not really that surprising. If you want high-end gaming just put in 4 titans in quad-SLI and crank everything up to 11 at 4K+ resolutions. Can you get such power in a console?

 

[falkTX]

They are forgetting the fact that not all of us like Windows.
Speaking for myself, I only use Linux (for a variety of reasons, mostly coding).

SteamOS will for sure make things better for Linux gaming, but right now someone that uses Linux or MacOS will for sure be better with the consoles.

 

[shintakie10]

It's almost as if Nvidia forgets that the primary reason consoles exist is to provide a stable, low maintenance means of enjoying video game software. The PC will always be better than consoles as far as performance, but it pays for it in stability and a need for regular maintenance.

Everyone says this, yet it never feels true. My 360 needed to update constantly. Whenever I popped in new games, update. Whenever MSoft decided to change the dashboard, update. When I downloaded some title from the store, update. The only updates my computer needs is a antivirus update that does itself automatically in the background, a windows update that only requires 2 clicks to get through, and a graphics driver update that again takes 2 clicks to get through.

Not only that, but my 360 has died far more than I've had computer hardware errors. I've had to replace 3 360s and a PS3 over the years. The only pieces of hardware I've ever had to replace because they broke down in my computer were 2 graphics cards. My extraordinarily old 8600 (or 8800? its been a long long time) that lasted me years. Years and years even. The fact that it even lasted that long was quite extraordinary honestly. Then there was my 250 that I bought for 80 bucks which I had for about 2-3 years before it crapped out on me.

Consoles being a cheaper, stabler and low maintenance alternative to PC's have been a myth since the 360 and PS3 days.

 

[blackrave]

Yes, nVidia, the PC is superior, but not exactly for the reasons you gave.

The PC is better because its cheaper in the long run, it is a requirement in today's world anyway and because of its greater library, backwards compatibility and modding.

I think this is another part of Nvidia's PR war to help convince themselves that abandoning the console market to AMD was a good idea.

Time will tell, with the way online functionality is going I can see the gap between consoles and PC getting ever narrower from a functionality standpoint (enjoy you DRM console players!), but whether that translates to fewer or more consoles remains to be seen.

These 2 comments should go to a date, consume insane amount of alcohol and meth, then have a baby
That unholy abomination would be exactly what I was about to post

 

[gorfias]

Even that third party Steambox they showcased a few days ago had a AMD GPU... I think they are starting to panic. Even if PC gaming does great this console generation, Nvidia will be in for some very hard years.

I haven't looked at Project Shield sales yet. Still too pricey for me. I'd need a Gen 6 Nvidia card and a $300 hand unit to really get some value from it. And wireless HDMI isn't ready for prime time yet. Soon it will be. At that time, I don't know if enough people know about this to be interested. But if it catches on, it could be a game changer. Big if, but a possibility.

 

[Arina Love]

Meh rather play on platform that does all multiplatform stuff + exclusives that i like. PC unfortunately doesn't have any exclusive games that i want to play. i don't care about graphics i only care about games.

 

[Pr0]

PC has a larger library including EVERY previous console generation and the GTX Titan kicks the crap out of EVERY consoles GPU so it's not really that surprising. If you want high-end gaming just put in 4 titans in quad-SLI and crank everything up to 11 at 4K+ resolutions. Can you get such power in a console?

Even as a PC Gaming Elitist myself I have to ask if you can get that kind of power in under a 400 dollar package...cause last I checked that was about half the price of one Titan.

There is no question that running four titans in quad SLI will hammer the ever living dogshit out of anything that any console can do, but you've essentially also spent $4,000 to do it.

I'm no console apologist, I don't use my XBox 360 for anything but watching TV shows on demand and I barely use it for that now that I have Netflix on my Nexus 7 but regardless of that, you have to be somewhat impressed with what the PS4 is doing at its price point....the XBox One...not so much.