people's misunderstanding of Korra and Asami

[gandhi the peacemake]

In my mind korrasami was so perfect. The ending allowed for such ambiguity with such good suggestion. nothing was offical, nobody needed to be offended by their vision of korra being distorted but I could happily and confidently believe in a romantic relationship between them (where maybe they get married in secret by iroh?maaaybe?). Everyone was right, and every interpretation of their relationship is such a great story. if It's romantic or if it is an amazingly strong friendship (which is no less valuable), both fit the character, both are incredibly well told and worked in with the rest of the series.

now the creators say "nope, it was meant to be taken one way and one way alone", why? what does that serve. what do we gain from that. now everyone who saw them as only friends is going to be upset and wrong for no reason other than confirming something that never really needed to be confirmed.

I'm rather unhappy.

See my post right above yours.

...which also points out that creator commentary outside of the text isn't considered strictly canon by some. So... yeah, maybe there's still wiggle room?

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Also whoever made that gif has mad skills.

 

[gandhi the peacemake]

We don't need to make shit ~ambiguous~ just to satisfy the homophobes.

In the interest of fairness, there are plenty of people who aren't homophobes and just like ambiguity for ambiguity's sake.

 

[Methodia Chicken]

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See my post right above yours.

...which also points out that creator commentary outside of the text isn't considered strictly canon by some. So... yeah, maybe there's still wiggle room?

Yeah I guess even if a creator says something it's not 100% set in stone. I'm sure I've wrapped my interpretation of certain things in loops because something a creator has said goes against what I think happens/should have happens or they are just plain stupid. (see Orson Scott Card) and I want to just totally disregard what they've said.
So I guess people who are uncomfortable with korra's sexuality or just preferred the two as friends are able to do the same.
A creator is not their creation or however that is supposed to go.
wiggle away!

 

[Methodia Chicken]

We don't need to make shit ~ambiguous~ just to satisfy the homophobes.

In the interest of fairness, there are plenty of people who aren't homophobes and just like ambiguity for ambiguity's sake.

But you gotta ask yourself why is it so important that these character's homosexual relationship be left ambiguous.

No one was crying at the end of Book 1 about how they should have left Mako and Korra's relationship ambiguous.

That's because they made it clear on screen, rather than having to do so in a little statement afterwards. nobody got to experience it being ambiguous and I for one would have vastly preferred that had I known it was an option.

 

[mecegirl]

We don't need to make shit ~ambiguous~ just to satisfy the homophobes.

In the interest of fairness, there are plenty of people who aren't homophobes and just like ambiguity for ambiguity's sake.

But you gotta ask yourself why is it so important that these character's homosexual relationship be left ambiguous.

No one was crying at the end of Book 1 about how they should have left Mako and Korra's relationship ambiguous.

That's because they made it clear on screen, rather than having to do so in a little statement afterwards. nobody got to experience it being ambiguous and I for one would have vastly preferred that had I known it was an option.

Are you completely unaware of where the U.S. is socially in regards to accepting sexualities other than heterosexuality? Do you really think that angry "Christian" parents wouldn't storm Nickelodeon's doors if the writers didn't leave things ambiguous?

 

[Methodia Chicken]

We don't need to make shit ~ambiguous~ just to satisfy the homophobes.

In the interest of fairness, there are plenty of people who aren't homophobes and just like ambiguity for ambiguity's sake.

But you gotta ask yourself why is it so important that these character's homosexual relationship be left ambiguous.

No one was crying at the end of Book 1 about how they should have left Mako and Korra's relationship ambiguous.

That's because they made it clear on screen, rather than having to do so in a little statement afterwards. nobody got to experience it being ambiguous and I for one would have vastly preferred that had I known it was an option.

Are you completely unaware of where the U.S. is socially in regards to accepting sexualities other than heterosexuality? Do you really think that angry "Christian" parents wouldn't storm Nickelodeon's doors if the writers didn't leave things ambiguous?

No and I'm not sure what I've said that suggests that I do (although not living in the US probably makes me slightly misinformed).
I just think ambiguity for political reasons can make narrative sense too, there's no need to have anyone storm anywhere when the friendship/relationship between two well written powerful women is the main heart to your conclusion. With a nice nod to what isn't allowed to be shown.

otherwise if you are going make a statement actually do so, in the show. don't half ass it and say it was all confirmed after the fact where most people won't see it.

 

[mecegirl]

We don't need to make shit ~ambiguous~ just to satisfy the homophobes.

In the interest of fairness, there are plenty of people who aren't homophobes and just like ambiguity for ambiguity's sake.

But you gotta ask yourself why is it so important that these character's homosexual relationship be left ambiguous.

No one was crying at the end of Book 1 about how they should have left Mako and Korra's relationship ambiguous.

That's because they made it clear on screen, rather than having to do so in a little statement afterwards. nobody got to experience it being ambiguous and I for one would have vastly preferred that had I known it was an option.

Are you completely unaware of where the U.S. is socially in regards to accepting sexualities other than heterosexuality? Do you really think that angry "Christian" parents wouldn't storm Nickelodeon's doors if the writers didn't leave things ambiguous?

No and I'm not sure what I've said that suggests that I do (although not living in the US probably makes me slightly misinformed).
I just think ambiguity for political reasons can make narrative sense too, there's no need to have anyone storm anywhere when the friendship/relationship between two well written powerful women is the main heart to your conclusion. With a nice nod to what isn't allowed to be shown.

otherwise if you are going make a statement actually do so, in the show. don't half ass it and say it was all confirmed after the fact where most people won't see it.

Sorry man. It doesn't work that way here. The show already was moved from being on the air to being streamed online because the action scenes were deemed too violent for a children's network(what is what Nick is). There is no way that they would get away with showing them kissing.

 

[Rebel_Raven]

We don't need to make shit ~ambiguous~ just to satisfy the homophobes.

In the interest of fairness, there are plenty of people who aren't homophobes and just like ambiguity for ambiguity's sake.

But you gotta ask yourself why is it so important that these character's homosexual relationship be left ambiguous.

No one was crying at the end of Book 1 about how they should have left Mako and Korra's relationship ambiguous.

That's because they made it clear on screen, rather than having to do so in a little statement afterwards. nobody got to experience it being ambiguous and I for one would have vastly preferred that had I known it was an option.

Are you completely unaware of where the U.S. is socially in regards to accepting sexualities other than heterosexuality? Do you really think that angry "Christian" parents wouldn't storm Nickelodeon's doors if the writers didn't leave things ambiguous?

I, for one, and pretty damn sure they will freak out if there was unambigous anything but straight relationships in a show aimed at kids.
Look at She-zow for about all the proof you need, really. Wasn't made in america, but when aired in America, it caused controversy. It wasn't the bad puns, the weird humor, rather it was a cross dressing boy super hero that caused controversy. Sure, Cross dressing isn't the same as non-straight relationships, but I think it stands as evidence that nearly anything outside of "normal" personality types for a hero is going to be shunned. I imagine it goes especially for anything that questions the solidarity of a gender, and/or straight relationships.
Unless it's played purely for humor, then mock away! Heaven forbid any serious look is approached.

 

[Lovely Mixture]

Does it come out of left field? Yes and no.

The writer even admits it wasn't the most perfect portrayal of a non-hetero relationship.
http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace

"Was it a slam-dunk victory for queer representation? I think it falls short of that, but hopefully it is a somewhat significant inching forward."

But the hints were there all throughout the 4th season.
The problem is that the show ENDs at the 4th season, ergo we only see the beginning of their relationship becoming fully romantic.

LoK is not a perfect show, but I liked the ending.

 

[DalekJaas]

Guys the creators have come out and said that the ending was the start of a romantic relationship between Korra and Asami. I've seen 3 articles on it pop up in the last few hours. Ignoring that you have got to be deluded to not think that's what they were going for, all the hidden symbolism, the exact mirroring of other characters romantic situations at the end.

The creators have said 'Korrasami' is canon so you people who are sad about that will just have to suck it up. I certainly didn't see it coming when i watched the finale, but at the end I was thinking 'damn these 2 are about to make out' and it ended. Its not like its a loss to the show to have them as lesbians.

I certainly feel that everyone will accept Lesbian Korra without a drama, but if we had had a gay male avatar, I think people would have lost their minds.

Edit: Here it is from the creators mouth http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace so OP is the only one with a misunderstanding of the situation

 

[xaszatm]

Oh snap .... I read the two articles created by the creators of LoK. They confirmed the Korra x Asami was real.
So the easter egg of the bi-flag colors was real. The comparisons with everyone holding hands romantically and how both girls ended up doing the same pose as the couples ...... it's as clear as day gentlemen.

My only question is .... will we ever see more of Korra or Asami, ever? I must say, even though Legend of Korra ended... I pray to see what comes of them either in another future season or entirely new Avatar series. Either way, it's really cool how the creators admitted to bisexual characters existing in a kid's show. They weren't bi at first, but as the story progressed .... the character's personalities made the writers go in the direction that best suited them. Asami was very likable and Korra was exploring who she was so for both to end up together made the most sense.

There will probably be comics. There still making them for Avatar, after all.

If not, we can rely on fanfiction...well, hopefully find good fanfiction.

 

[JimB]

You know, the more I think about it, the more sympathetic I find myself feeling toward the "I want it to be ambiguous" crowd. I'm not one hundred percent sure I can think of more examples of fictional women who are friends than of fictional women who are banging one another, and in a culture where fiction tends to demand women be in romantic relationships, I almost think it might have been more subversive to just have the two of them be friends whose vaginas are not established to be sub-let out to anyone.

I'm probably being a little unfair to the culture there, though. And certainly, I think "It's okay for women to love women" is a more necessary message for the kids to hear than "It's okay for women to like each other" at this point in our social evolution, especially since such a message needs to be buried in innuendo to hide it from parents who would object to children hearing it.

Ah, well. Nothing wrong with Korra and Asami dating.

 

[gandhi the peacemake]

I'm probably being a little unfair to the culture there, though. And certainly, I think "It's okay for women to love women" is a more necessary message for the kids to hear than "It's okay for women to like each other" at this point in our social evolution, especially since such a message needs to be buried in innuendo to hide it from parents who would object to children hearing it.

Ah, well. Nothing wrong with Korra and Asami dating.

Eh. Both are needed, in their own ways. But there's necessarily fighting battles one at a time, is all.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Wasn't this show on Nickelodeon? Would MTV Networks Kids & Family Group really have the balls to air a kids' show with implied lesbian content in it?

Its obvious the OP was supper invested in the series and his interpretation of the characters. I can relate to that. I was in shock when I found out Dumbledore is gay and was firmly against it. Then my aunt said something that pissed me the fuck off. "Is there a problem with him being gay?"

YES, YES THERE IS! During the entire course of the series I had never pondered Dumbledore's sexuality. It didn't seem like he cared and neither did I as a result. Then J.K. Rowling announces that he is gay, with out any evidence from the books to support it. It just ruined some of the magic of Dumbledore for me. I suspect the OP might feel similarly because he has a set image of these to characters and this revelation must feel like an unwarranted retcon to him. However it does seem like this relationship was hinted at before hand.

That's just Rowling making up stuff without having the balls to weave it into the narrative. Don't think much of it.

 

[vIRL Nightmare]

But the creators announced that they hit it off.

 

[bat32391]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't the creators stated its canon? I don't think that leaves much room for interpretation.