Persona 4 rant
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I really need to finish this game. I'm not sure why I stopped playing, I love the fuck out of it, absolutely and the underlying Jung psychology is wonderful. But I'm currently on the 3rd(?) ah... area I guess, right about after what I'd call the tutorial and I think my mental block is coming from feeling like I want to do a perfect run or whatever and I'm deathly afraid of fucking it all up.
I don't even know if there is such a thing as a perfect run as P4G is the first Persona title I've played.
Captcha: Captcha in the rye
Well now, are you going to start assassinating political figures Inglip? Branching out I see...
I don't even know if there is such a thing as a perfect run as P4G is the first Persona title I've played.
Captcha: Captcha in the rye
Well now, are you going to start assassinating political figures Inglip? Branching out I see...
Honestly on your first run, don't worry about doing a perfect run. The game is easy enough on normal and even hard difficulty you don't need to worry about having the optimal persona fusions, party composition etc. Just dive in, experience the story, progress the social links you're interested in the most and have fun. It's on subsequent playthroughs where you can really get into min-maxing, 100% completion stuff, since your social stats (courage, knowledge etc) and compendium carry over in new game plus.Imperioratorex Caprae said:
Neat. Love the game, I just tend to be a perfectionist... and I guess a part of me is so in love with the game I don't want it to end as well...Drummodino said:
Haha don't worry so much, it's a long game. And there are plenty of incentives to play it through multiple timesImperioratorex Caprae said:Neat. Love the game, I just tend to be a perfectionist... and I guess a part of me is so in love with the game I don't want it to end as well...Drummodino said:
One thing I would say you should know, make sure you know how to get the true ending (it's quite simple). Don't do what I did and finish your first playthrough without seeing it...
It's a subjective thing. If you don't like dungeon crawlers, then Persona 4 ain't for you, simple as that.
Thing is, compared to other SMT games, it's one of the least grindy. You can get by as long as you fuse Personas efficiently and make liberal use of buffs and debuffs in battle. That's really what it's about; bosses stop having weaknesses about halfway through, so you need to havea handle on them to progress. That's where the strategy lies.
Thing is, compared to other SMT games, it's one of the least grindy. You can get by as long as you fuse Personas efficiently and make liberal use of buffs and debuffs in battle. That's really what it's about; bosses stop having weaknesses about halfway through, so you need to havea handle on them to progress. That's where the strategy lies.
Fox12 said:
In p3 you don't have direct control of the party members and you can't guard at all. These two things serve to make matters harder.
P3 isn't actually "hard", btw, it's just harder than p4.
I got through with minimal amounts of grinding. I don't know what the OP is doing wrong, but he is doing something wrong. With rarely grinding my first time through I stayed at the point where the fights were challenging. After losing my Vita and getting a new one and restarting from scratch all I did is clear each dungeon one more time after clearing it for the story and the enemies didn't even pose a challenge, I only died to the grim reaper which the game literally says, "Senpai, don't ever, ever open that box. I have a terrible feeling". So the only death was caused by my overconfidence.Denamic said:
Fuck. This. Asshole. WHO THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO GIVE HIM DOUBLE POWER HIGH DAMAGE FULL PARTY ATTACKS?!The Wykydtron said:
OT: Eh, I can see where the disconnect might be coming from, but it's not really that bad. The game really gives you a lot of mechanics to avoid the full party wipes. The first rank of each S Link gives a chance for your teammates to take a KO for you, fusion bonuses + S Link bonuses largely cuts down on a fair amount of level grinding for the protag, sticking with Chie, Yosuke, and Yukiko, carried me through the whole game, the protag can swap between Personas on his turn so you can predict and counter, and Teddie tells you to straight up experiment by throwing your attacks at the enemy until something works.
Really, the Vita version P4G is the best version to use. Well, some people don't like Marie but the benefits are grand. P4G gives control over skill inheritance during fusions, alters Shadow Chie and Shadow Yukiko weaknesses, skill cards to function like Pokemon TMs, improved usability for the teammates after Yukiko, and my favorite, completely useless costumes to wear in dungeons.
Really, with clever manipulation you can fuse personas with multiple immunities, multi-target spells, and party buffs to kill everything.
But, oh well, it's hardly the end of the world if someone doesn't like Persona. It is what it is.
Hey now, the fact that the game is loved by the majority doesn't make you obliged to like it too. I mean, the majority of people that spoke on the topic of Baldur's Gate 2 seem to praise it for the story, characters and what not, but I have found it dull. It is not a BAD game, but compared to Planescape: Torment, which came out before BG2 (if I am correct), it's just another dull Medieval fantasy WRPG, but with Minsc.asdfen said:
As for Persona 4, I've found it not as grindy as, say, Final Fantasy games, or Digital Devil Saga. The encounters are semi-random and what everyone does almost intuitivelly is run to the last floor and grind there. Heck, you don't even NEED to gring, you just need to get your party members to decent level and get yourself a useful persona for the boss battle. For example that everyone uses, Shadow Yukiko, just get everyone to level 15 (easy to do on upper levels of Castle dungeon) and fuse a persona with some sort of fire resistance.
As for social aspect. Sir/madam, the power of your personas (your main asset in any combat) depends on social links. What did you want devs to allow you to do? Grind every single avaliable social link in one game day? I mean, some aspects of it are dumb, sure (I doubt I'd spent the whole day chatting with a fox), but still it is quite a nice system, in my opinion.
Still, if you don't like something, well, thats fine. Isn't this is what being idividual is about: liking what YOU like? If you like something that others do too, then cool, you can chat about it, if you don't like it, the don't like it.
i never finished Persona 4... i liked what little I played and I really liked the anime ( i saw the anime before getting the game on ps3) but the whole deadline for saving yukiko thing is annoying.. and i;m sure that with my luck i'll run out of time before getting to her because of the many levels in the castle.. i might restart the game at some point but i'm just not a huge turn base RPG fan.. i prefer real time combat RPGs instead.. granted there have been a few exceptions like Paper Mario an the Thousand Year Door on gamecube and Persona 3/Persona 4. (never finished Persona 3 either.. though i got close at around 50 hours in until Dc Universe Online caused my ps3 harddrive to crash and erase all my save data for all my games)
Wait, do you mean Persona 3 for the PS2 and not Persona 3 Portable? I only ask because I have Portable and the AI are actually really intelligent: they have never used the wrong spell that would aid an enemy instead of weaken it, they help out other allies with healing, and defending themselves against enemies that they cannot properly damage. The only time they 'failed' to exploit an enemies' weakness was when I hadn't scan the enemy or exploited the weakness myself. After that, they are able to adapt quickly and I have never lost a match due to any mistakes on their part.R.K. Meades said:
Sure, there's the option of controlling their individual actions, but I've never needed to do that because they always handled themselves in combat without my input.
I've had that happen twice on me. The first time when I went into the game blind and had no idea that I had some sort of time constraints. Forcing me to restart the game from scratch. Thats when I took the first break from playing it. Then the second time a few years later when I've forgoten about it again.crazygameguy4ever said:
