Peter Molyneux presentation style = Vomit

[maximilian]

Yeah, so does anyone else find Peter Molyneux' presentation style of Fable 2 vomit worthy, in the way that he colorfully describes defunct or standard game features as though he's reinvented the wheel? So what, you get a dog that's about as interactive as a Poochies Mod in the Sims, button mashing ala Dragoon Warriors and the ability to kill noncombat NPCs just like Daggerfall. I really like the series (artstyle, feel, atmosphere), I'd just prefer it if the guy wasn't present to flagship it.
Things that I wanted to be surprised by in Fable 2:

The ability to use my SP character in my armour, in a 100 man Battlefield Heroes style multiplayer battle.
The ability to go into a Oblivion style first person.
Intelligent enemies.
GoW style cover use.
Napoleonic battles.

What did you hope for or want to see?

 

[TheBadass]

Just for the record, I would have hated all the things you listed. Except maybe intelligent enemies, but the AI's hardly been shown off anyway.

I always enjoy his presentations, mainly because - as you said - he colourfully describes standard features in a way that actually makes them sound interesting. It makes him both a fantastic orator and marketer, but either way I know I prefer it to watching half the other game producers in the field. Their voices bore me to bloody tears.

In conclusion, enthusiasm is a good thing. Yeah, I said it.

 

[maximilian]

Pfft "sheeple".

Nah, I get that. I just know that Fable will be like a really nice vanilla icecream. It will be really tasty, creamy and look really nice. But at the end of the day it's still vanilla and lasts only a short time.

 

[The Thief]

-Trees that grow in real time; Any game without them is just stupid.
-Enemies that will perform cheap strategies like camping and exploiting geometry, who will then teabag your corpse.
-Super duper realism; To recover health after battle, your character must spend weeks in a hospital and undergo rehabilitation procedures.
-Graphic nudity and sex.
-Free peanut butter sandwiches with purchase.
-Sandgeese.

If Peter molyneux doesn't deliver these, I'm going to rant and rant on my internets.

 

[yourkie1921]

Well, I just played the original fable and I disagree about it being just vanilla.

Yeah, so does anyone else find Peter Molyneux' presentation style of Fable 2 vomit worthy, in the way that he colorfully describes defunct or standard game features as though he's reinvented the wheel? So what, you get a dog that's about as interactive as a Poochies Mod in the Sims, button mashing ala Dragoon Warriors and the ability to kill noncombat NPCs just like Daggerfall. I really like the series (artstyle, feel, atmosphere), I'd just prefer it if the guy wasn't present to flagship it.
Things that I wanted to be surprised by in Fable 2:

The ability to use my SP character in my armour, in a 100 man Battlefield Heroes style multiplayer battle.
The ability to go into a Oblivion style first person.
Intelligent enemies.
GoW style cover use.
Napoleonic battles.

What did you hope for or want to see?

Hmmmm, Peter didn't know if he's doing pvp
I can't see "goes in first person" as one of his selling points. If he puts that on the box as one of the major selling points I'm going to try to cancel my pre-order
I guess he could've mentioned whether the enemy's were inteligent or not but really do you expect him to say that.

As for GoW cover I'd fucking hate that. This game isn't supposed to be a shooting game. Shooting is in it but it seems like you want to turn it into and FPS.

What do you mean by napoleanic battles?

-Trees that grow in real time; Any game without them is just stupid.
-Enemies that will perform cheap strategies like camping and exploiting geometry, who will then teabag your corpse.
-Super duper realism; To recover health after battle, your character must spend weeks in a hospital and undergo rehabilitation procedures.
-Graphic nudity and sex.
-Free peanut butter sandwiches with purchase.
-Sandgeese.

If Peter molyneux doesn't deliver these, I'm going to rant and rant on my internets.

I'll just rant if there's no graphic nudity.

 

[Aries_Split]

Wait for RedForceRanger to show up...*Shudders*

I don't hate Peter. In fact, I admire his passion and charisma for his work, sure he exaggerates, but it's nice to have a developer that has so much love for his field of work.

 

[TheBadass]

-Trees that grow in real time; Any game without them is just stupid.
-Enemies that will perform cheap strategies like camping and exploiting geometry, who will then teabag your corpse.
-Super duper realism; To recover health after battle, your character must spend weeks in a hospital and undergo rehabilitation procedures.
-Graphic nudity and sex.

If Peter molyneux doesn't deliver these, I'm going to rant and rant on my internets.

The sad thing is, I've actually seen someone say pretty much those four things would need to be in there in order for him to purchase the game. And was completely serious about it.

Oh internet, you cruel mistress you.

 

[yourkie1921]

lol. Are you sure he wasn't joking around?

 

[maximilian]

Additions aside, the main point is that the man thinks things like a single camera angle for multiplayer is a good idea for new players. This is NOT new or certainly special. The point isn't what type of new additions, but rather, what additions? Additionally, ranting on the internets is the best and least cowardly way of getting things done.

 

[yourkie1921]

Additions aside, the main point is that the man thinks things like a single camera angle for multiplayer is a good idea for new players. This is NOT new or certainly special.

True, I was a little annoyed when I heard him even mentioning it but still, he's not doing that with all the content that he's mentioning.

 

[Najos]

Additionally, ranting on the internets is the best and least cowardly way of getting things done.

I agree.

 

[The Thief]

The sad thing is, I've actually seen someone say pretty much those four things would need to be in there in order for him to purchase the game. And was completely serious about it.

I can believe it. Some people have way too high expectations.

I'll just be happy if there is a Sandgoose. I was one of the suckers who spent hours searching for it; A testament to how much I fucking loved fable and wanted more from it. It was such a good game, it was just criminally short.

I'm sure fable 2 will be good as well, cause I don't have high expectations.

 

[Logan Westbrook]

Could we get the title changed please?

 

[maximilian]

Unless you are his wife or child. No.

 

[Divinegon]

The great thing about Peter Molyneux: He tells a really great story every time he showcases the features of his games. But that's about it.

I'm still pissed at him for claiming he would do about 10 Black and Whites, when he takes years and years to do the second (Third if you count expansions) and in the end we got something prettier but much less fun. It didn't even have online multiplayer when the first did.

 

[The Thief]

Unless you are his wife or child. No.

He's a mod, and I don't think he was asking...

 

[maximilian]

Changed. B/W is a good example of the hype machine he is. I'm annoyed, because I'm disappointed so often by him that it's built his voice into my temporal lobe as a "run away". I'm not hating because I'm a hater.

 

[Jamash]

I like his presentations, they're both entertaining & informative.

What I really like about them is that they're unintentional comedy gold, like when he's explaining something to a room full of journalists & he suddenly gets a new idea which he talks about like it's an existing feature.

Sometimes he's making it up as he goes along & it's hilarious seeing the look of panic & horror on the face of the PR person for the company who's doing the presentation with him.

It's like they're thinking "What the fuck, I don't remember any of this being in the game?" *frantically looking through their notes* "Oh shit, shut up Peter! Shut up".

I can forgive him for 'writing cheques the game makers can't cash' just because he's so passionate about the games he makes & his presentations are so entertaining, though I bet the PR people wish he had a script & a muzzle.

 

[Death Magnetic]

It's probably a successful marketing method to boast about features that don't exist in the game. It'll make a few disapointed fans, but they'll get too hooked to the gameplay to care.

 

[maximilian]

This is possibly one of the most retarded things ive ever read. Wtf did you expect Peter to say? "Fable 2 will feature a couple of new features that have been done before, and better at that. Your going to buy it though because im Peter Fuckin Molyneux and you are my bi-atch"
Oh and all your ideas sucked. Plus you can already go FP with the bow.

I love the way you call him "Peter", it's like you actually know him. Similarly, I can't really be retarded now can I, considering I know the difference between things like "you're" and "your"? Also, nice joker avatar, I haven't seen that one around before... You know Heath Ledger shouldn't get an Oscar because his character was anodyne and underdeveloped? Lastly, you shouldn't have to even create that hypothetical situation. You know why? Because if he didn't hyperbole every little rediculous thing into existence there would be no need. And crap, it really hurts my feelings that you think my ideas sucked... I was waiting for you to post and I was really hoping you'd like them! Maybe you should be a tiny bit less fanboy? I own a 360, I really like the Fable games, my issues is with the way they're done a disservice by his hype engineering.

PS. The FP with the bow is really unclunky and intuitive. Just like riding in a shopping trolley.

EDIT: I'm going to be laughing and crying at how correct I am when Fable proves to be really good but not great.