Philosophy; I bequeth thee.
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Terry Pratchett reference: One Hand clapping?
Ok, so here's a line (on your screen no less):
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You and the master walk contemplatively on the beach, then suddenly she draws it and says: "Make it shorter without touching it." (which you understand to mean interfering or altering it in any physical fashion. you've always been quite understanding like that.)
'CL-'. The other hand provides the '-AP'.
Ok, so here's a line (on your screen no less):
_______________________________________________
You and the master walk contemplatively on the beach, then suddenly she draws it and says: "Make it shorter without touching it." (which you understand to mean interfering or altering it in any physical fashion. you've always been quite understanding like that.)
I sit and wait until nature fades the line's edges.filbertim said:
Alternatively, I close one eye.
Ven you look into ze bottle...it lookz into you!space_oddity said:
Ooh, I like those. Not sure how closing one eye makes it shorter (unless you're at an angle and its flattening has the same effect), but the first is not you doing it (unless you're a solipsist) and the master's prompting assumes a somewhat objective reality (unless you're a solipsist). As solipsism is so lonely, I'd prefer to find another way.Michael_McCloud said:
Oh, solipsism is the idea that the world is only in your head--after all, you're the only one you know exists, right? (except...are you sure you exist?)
As Satan's nephew once said, "Nothing exists except empty space and you. And you are but a thought."filbertim said:
Now it's my turn.
If you have Ice Cream, I will give it to you.
If you don't have Ice Cream, I will take it away.
What kind of Koan is this?
I thought the goose thing was pretty interesting, it was used as a plot device in 52 (Grant Morrison) for one of the characters to develop or reach enlightenment or whatever, but all that aside philosophy has infinite questions and infinite answers, none of which are all encompassing and is constantly subject to your perceived interpretation of the term "philosophy".
Anyways, the best philosopher in the world is this man: http://freewebs.com/the_k_man/
Anyways, the best philosopher in the world is this man: http://freewebs.com/the_k_man/
A delicious Ice Cream Koan! (mine has grids...I think it's a waffle koan)
And how do you know thoughts exist?
Thoughts require a past, how do you know that exists? How do you know that you have not been created right now with this complete thought just finished? Is that really thinking?
And how do you know thoughts exist?
Thoughts require a past, how do you know that exists? How do you know that you have not been created right now with this complete thought just finished? Is that really thinking?
And that's the mystery of it all.filbertim said:
Rather than spend an eternity attempting to unravel such a perplexity, though, I simply regard it as I would an odd piece of furniture, a trivial musing to be examined later. Pursuing wisdom and intelligence for the sake of obtaining either will only result in frustration.
Also, does a dog have Buddha nature or not?
Heh. Nice avatar.
And I've found it important when discussing philosophy to keep a distinction between the things I rationally think are correct vs. what I actually act on and believe when I'm not looking. Things like free will, the senses, etc.
Of course, there's an element of "Well there's gotta be other people, otherwise what's the point?"
And I've found it important when discussing philosophy to keep a distinction between the things I rationally think are correct vs. what I actually act on and believe when I'm not looking. Things like free will, the senses, etc.
Of course, there's an element of "Well there's gotta be other people, otherwise what's the point?"
What sort of freedom?
Freedom from the bottle? Then cook and liquidate the goose; it will pour out easily.
Freedom from the anguish of being trapped in the bottle? Create a new freedom that fits within the confines of the bottle.
Freedom from the bottle? Then cook and liquidate the goose; it will pour out easily.
Freedom from the anguish of being trapped in the bottle? Create a new freedom that fits within the confines of the bottle.
The goose managed to get itself within the bottle, assuming it wasn't super goose, the bottle must have been large, and as you never stated the size of the bottle, I will say: put bread outside the bottle and the goose will walk out.
Stop jerking me around. And no I won't read your stupid link...ioxles said:
I was going to say "persuade the goose to adopt a Buddha nature", mainly because you didn't say that the goose couldn't talk.
You teach the goose to free its mind from the physical shackles that are, and it shall be allowed to transcend to true mental freedom. There is no need for anything more when attaining that, in his situation. Elimination of the ego would be the simplest way, and the only one I know of, thus being the only true way for me.