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Icecoldcynic

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Tekkawarrior said:
It's "My nose will grow"
Well that wouldn't be a lie, it would be a prediction. As for the OP, if he said "My nose is growing", then that would be a lie, and his nose would start to grow. That doesn't mean his previous statement is true, because at the point in time that he said it, his nose was not growing.
 

Tallim

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Maybe there is a "lie of omission" somewhere there at the same time so the statement can be true but his nose grows for other sinister reasons.
 

Dr. wonderful

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AndrewOfHell said:
Pinocchio's nose will grow if he is lying.

Pinocchio says "My nose will grow".

What happens?

EDIT: Thanks.
http://www.ihasafunny.com/2009/11/19/epic-paradox-of-pinocchios-growing-nose/

That what would happen.
 

Tekkawarrior

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Icecoldcynic said:
Tekkawarrior said:
It's "My nose will grow"
Well that wouldn't be a lie, it would be a prediction. As for the OP, if he said "My nose is growing", then that would be a lie, and his nose would start to grow. That doesn't mean his previous statement is true, because at the point in time that he said it, his nose was not growing.
A prediction can also be false or true, if I say "I will pee my self now" there are two outcomes:

1) I do pee, which means I told the truth
2) I don't pee, which means I told a lie
 

Pyrignis

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1) His nose, showing a yet unknown power, strangles him
2) His nose will grow, then stop, then start again and so on... forever.
3) His nose does nothing, but his ears will flapper
4) Divide by zero O SHI-
 

Icecoldcynic

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Tekkawarrior said:
Icecoldcynic said:
Tekkawarrior said:
It's "My nose will grow"
Well that wouldn't be a lie, it would be a prediction. As for the OP, if he said "My nose is growing", then that would be a lie, and his nose would start to grow. That doesn't mean his previous statement is true, because at the point in time that he said it, his nose was not growing.
A prediction can also be false or true, if I say "I will pee my self now" there are two outcomes:

1) I do pee, which means I told the truth
2) I don't pee, which means I told a lie
But that's not you actively lying, it's you being wrong. If I said a plane would crash, and then it didn't, that's not me telling a lie, it's just me being wrong. Look at it this way: Pinnochio has no idea what is about to happen, so he can't exactly be LYING about it, but he CAN be WRONG about it.
 

Tekkawarrior

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Icecoldcynic said:
Tekkawarrior said:
Icecoldcynic said:
Tekkawarrior said:
It's "My nose will grow"
Well that wouldn't be a lie, it would be a prediction. As for the OP, if he said "My nose is growing", then that would be a lie, and his nose would start to grow. That doesn't mean his previous statement is true, because at the point in time that he said it, his nose was not growing.
A prediction can also be false or true, if I say "I will pee my self now" there are two outcomes:

1) I do pee, which means I told the truth
2) I don't pee, which means I told a lie
But that's not you actively lying, it's you being wrong. If I said a plane would crash, and then it didn't, that's not me telling a lie, it's just me being wrong. Look at it this way: Pinnochio has no idea what is about to happen, so he can't exactly be LYING about it, but he CAN be WRONG about it.
I see what you mean, but I'm going to have disagree, simply because the whole delima is spicifically trying to show that he IS lying, otheriwise the whole thing wouldn't be as interesting.
 

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AndrewOfHell said:
Pinocchio's nose will grow if he is lying.

Pinocchio says "My nose is growing".

What happens?
If Pinocchio falls in the woods, does he make a sound? If so, is it the sound of one hand clapping?