Piracy is harmless?
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I try to fork out the cash when I think it's worth it. If it's by Activision for example, it's never worth it. I do not intend to fill Bobby's pocket with my money. Plus, it's a good way to find out if I like the game first.
End of discussion, perhaps. If you want to wrap up the thread then the general consensus is that piracy is illegal, immoral and wrong and cannot be justified in any way. Not that I can stop you doing it.Terramax said:
Piracy is certainly not harmless. The bottom line is that people are selling a product, if you do not think it is worth the price then do not buy it. If everyone thought that piracy was harmless, we would have a very big problem on our hands. We have already seen how piracy hurts people, for example many game's emplace regulations on how paying customers may use their games. This is a direct result of piracy, you cannot blame retail companies for attempting to reduce the number of people that steal from them. Everyone seems to use the excuses of "piracy is very small at the moment, and thus not damaging", and "The loss is negligible to large companies". The first one is moronic to say the least, and the second is not necessarily true.
Furthermore, pirates are propped up by those that pay for the product. They will foot the bill for other people's free enjoyment, and have their rights restricted as developers get more and more pissed off over their losses. Piracy is very harmful, unfortunately those who pirate are also normally too dumb to realise this (yes you are idiots, and sometimes I want to hurt you for your lack of understanding).
It's not difficult people, if you believe the product is worth buying, buy it. If you don't think it is worth buying, don't buy it. If you are too poor to buy it, don't buy it. It's that simple, there is no middle ground and there are no circumstances that entitle you to steal.
Furthermore, pirates are propped up by those that pay for the product. They will foot the bill for other people's free enjoyment, and have their rights restricted as developers get more and more pissed off over their losses. Piracy is very harmful, unfortunately those who pirate are also normally too dumb to realise this (yes you are idiots, and sometimes I want to hurt you for your lack of understanding).
It's not difficult people, if you believe the product is worth buying, buy it. If you don't think it is worth buying, don't buy it. If you are too poor to buy it, don't buy it. It's that simple, there is no middle ground and there are no circumstances that entitle you to steal.
I'm not stealing from anyone.Geekosaurus said:
Listen. If I download it, I see the movie for free. If I don't download it, I see it 'for free' a year later. Do you understand? Nothing is changing because I download the movie. They are not losing any money they would have gained.
Calling piracy stealing is retarded, and only fits the circumstance when you would have legally bought the movie if it weren't for pirating.
You are required to pay for it. You did not pay for it. No matter how you want to justify your actions it's a form of stealing.Nincompoop said:
What ever. If that is considered stealing we seriously need to change the criteria for stealing, or use another word for when you actually take something out of someones possession and keep it for yourself.Geekosaurus said:
Piracy isn't stealing but it is equivalent to making counterfeit money which is IMO just as bad considering that this devalues products/money and does cause an increase in inflation, something not helpful in our current economic climate. People not buying stuff isn't good for the economy you know.
People assume that because they can't see the effects of something that there are no effects. People also don't buy dvds if they can pirate them (dvds are largely a one use item, unlike music or games).
I never buy the "people wouldn't buy any items they pirate anyway" since there are plenty of people who download all of their movies illegally. Are you telling me if they couldn't pirate that they would never watch a single movie ever again? Really? Because even if they only would've bought 5% of the movies/games/music they downloaded, that'd be 5% more than they were giving now.
People assume that because they can't see the effects of something that there are no effects. People also don't buy dvds if they can pirate them (dvds are largely a one use item, unlike music or games).
I never buy the "people wouldn't buy any items they pirate anyway" since there are plenty of people who download all of their movies illegally. Are you telling me if they couldn't pirate that they would never watch a single movie ever again? Really? Because even if they only would've bought 5% of the movies/games/music they downloaded, that'd be 5% more than they were giving now.
This has always been the criteria for stealing! At the end of the day, you're trying to justify an illegal act.Nincompoop said:
Stealing from a store: Going in the store and depriving the owner of goods.Geekosaurus said:
"Stealing" in terms of piracy: Buying something as to make a copy and distribute it around the internet.
Look at it this way. Is it theft if I use an apple I bought from a store to start my own orchad and distribute the goods to everyone for free?
Some of these replies are just awful...
Both sides need to chill,
You can't force everyone to stop pirating. That's just not going to happen, so stop being nazis about it.
I'm against piracy, mostly because I have the feeling if I ever release anything, everybody would just pirate it. I think the creator should be rewarded for his/her creation.
So everybody, just chill. Do whatever you think is right, but don't be nazis about it.
Both sides need to chill,
You can't force everyone to stop pirating. That's just not going to happen, so stop being nazis about it.
I'm against piracy, mostly because I have the feeling if I ever release anything, everybody would just pirate it. I think the creator should be rewarded for his/her creation.
So everybody, just chill. Do whatever you think is right, but don't be nazis about it.
I agree, piracy isn't exactly the same as stealing, but that doesn't make it right. And a lot of people don't buy the game to make a copy of it, they just download from torrent sites. You can't get away from the fact that you've acquired something without paying for it. No matter if it's a physical object or not, it's a type of stealing.AndyFromMonday said:
