Piranha 3D Exec Snaps Back at James Cameron

[Lullabye]

Avatar should have been called, "stockholme Syndrome 3D. Am I right?

Heh, that made me laugh. It should have been called alot of things, really anything other than Avatar, since that whole mess of a movie that M.night made should have called it. Seriously though...
"Dances with Wolves 3D!"
'Pocahontas 3D'!
"How not to Negotiate valuable resources with primitive smurf cultures 3d"
or maybe even
"Team America World police 2: Terrorize this aliens! Also in 3D!"
Or just
"3D the official fad! in 3D"

 

[Blue_vision]

Have you tried watching it in 2D? The 3D experience I find it makes the movie all the more immersive. The point of it is to be subtle, not your cheezy pop out 3D action/horror movies of old.

I can't see 3D myself, but after watching it on Bluray (2D), I did not notice any of those absurd camera angles that you know would otherwise be 3D just to have the 3D special effect thrown in carelessly.

Exactly. And I think that's what James Cameron's talking about when he says a 3D renaissance. I personally found Avatar's 3D to make the movie just so much better, even in theatre when the experience is breathtaking anyways.

I think if you add it in a similar fashion to other action-themed movies, it'd make the movie experience better. It's not for use in all movies, but it's also not for misuse as in the crappy use of 3D just to make things pop out at viewers. It'd be great for action moves just to make the people and action seem more real, and Avatar also used it well to make a fantastical world come alive. It should just be an extra filmmaking tool, like slo-mo or bloom. Judging by previous 3D movies, most directors don't seem to grasp that.

 

[SelectivelyEvil13]

Have you tried watching it in 2D? The 3D experience I find it makes the movie all the more immersive. The point of it is to be subtle, not your cheezy pop out 3D action/horror movies of old.

I can't see 3D myself, but after watching it on Bluray (2D), I did not notice any of those absurd camera angles that you know would otherwise be 3D just to have the 3D special effect thrown in carelessly.

Exactly. And I think that's what James Cameron's talking about when he says a 3D renaissance. I personally found Avatar's 3D to make the movie just so much better, even in theatre when the experience is breathtaking anyways.

I think if you add it in a similar fashion to other action-themed movies, it'd make the movie experience better. It's not for use in all movies, but it's also not for misuse as in the crappy use of 3D just to make things pop out at viewers. It'd be great for action moves just to make the people and action seem more real, and Avatar also used it well to make a fantastical world come alive. It should just be an extra filmmaking tool, like slo-mo or bloom. Judging by previous 3D movies, most directors don't seem to grasp that.

I believe you hit the nail on the head when it comes to how 3D is used. I find myself rather cynical towards 3D simply because it is chocked up to be the next great thing when too few of films use discretion when applying 3D like Avatar. The cinematography bombards the viewer with sweeping CGI images that, even in 2D, scream "add-in" just so something 3D could fly past the audience.

Movies like Piranha 3D are why I think that the technology will have an even harder time proving its value because of the high reliance upon a cheap thrill rather than an enhancing experience. Avatar is a great example because while I can enjoy the movie in 2D, it is equally or more entertaining to watch in 3D for others who can view it properly. It does not rely strictly on the 3D as a merit or have a lessened experience in 2D.

 

[MajoraPersona]

See if you can spot the following movies below:

Platoon (it was on tv the other day, and I instantly recognized the first 5 minutes)
Aliens
Gorillas in the Mist
Stargate
Dances with Wolves (ironically, I'm only putting this in here because everyone says it's there)

Avatar's Screenplay:

OPEN: DEAD BROTHER
NOT-WHEELCHAIR GUY: Your turn.
WHEELCHAIR GUY: Kay.

NEXT we see OPENING FROM PLATOON minus CHARLIE SHEEN.
Then STANDARD BRIEFING AND EXPOSITION. Use the word UNOBTANIUM for ORIGINALITY POINTS.
WHEELCHAIR GUY goes to WORLD OF WARCRAFT LOADING SCREEN and uses his DEAD BROTHER's CHARACTER.
WHEELCHAIR GUY is now a TALL PERSON. TALL PERSON plays BASKETBALL with NOT DIANE FOSSEY.
WHEELCHAIR GUY is WHEELCHAIR GUY again. He goes to THE LOADING BAY from ALIENS and meets NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER. NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER talks about KILLING TALL PEOPLE with his NOT POWER LOADER.

TALL PEOPLE are WALKING THROUGH THE FOREST when WHEELCHAIR GUY SCREWS UP.
NOT DIANE FOSSEY is PISSED.
LOVE INTEREST shows up and SAVES HIS ASS.

SHIT HAPPENS.

WHEELCHAIR GUY meets LOVE INTEREST's FATHER, DOOMED NATIVE CHIEF, and MOTHER, LIVES UNTIL END OF MOVIE.

MORE SHIT HAPPENS.

WHEELCHAIR GUY has ALIEN SEX with a PTERODACTYL. The PTERODACTYL is his PARTNER for LIFE. He rides his LIFE PARTNER for a while.

He RETURNS to the MACGUFFIN BLOCKER and receives OBVIOUS FORESHADOWING.

Meanwhile, NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER and THE WEYLAND-YUTANI REPRESENTATIVE are getting BORED because WHEELCHAIR GUY is ONLY DOING the PART OF HIS JOB that GETS MOST OF THE TALL PEOPLE KILLED and NOT the part of his job where he TELLS THE TALL PEOPLE WHAT'S GOING ON.

WHEELCHAIR GUY has ALIEN SEX with LOVE INTEREST.
A BULLDOZER shows up to PLOW THE ALIENS.

NOT DIANE FOSSEY is MURDERED by NOT GORILLA POACHERS.
They TRY to PUT HER IN A NEW BODY. It FAILS, but now we KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN.

WEYLAND-YUTANI REPRESENTATIVE loses his PATIENCE and tells NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER to BURN IT ALL DOWN. HE DOES. DOOMED NATIVE CHIEF is caught in the attack and DIES. The TALL PEOPLE now HATE WHEELCHAIR GUY. The AUDIENCE feels PITY.

WHEELCHAIR GUY remembers the OBVIOUS FORESHADOWING and uses it to CONVINCE the TALL PEOPLE to TAKE REVENGE on the PEOPLE WHO HIRED HIM. This has NOTHING TO DO with him BEING FIRED for NOT ACTUALLY DOING HIS JOB.

WEYLAND-YUTANI REPRESENTATIVE notices that an ARMY OF TALL PEOPLE is GATHERING to MURDER HIS ASS. He tells NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

A BOMBER carries a BOMB to BOMB the ARMY. GUNSHIPS protect it. The TALL PEOPLE ARMY shows up riding PTERODACTYLS and THROW STICKS at the GUNSHIPS. The GUNSHIPS EXPLODE. NOT POWER LOADERS are deployed. They are destroyed by SLEIPNIRS.

LOTS OF PEOPLE DIE IMMEMORABLY.

LOVE INTEREST fights NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER in his NOT POWER LOADER. She FAILS. WHEELCHAIR GUY has to FIGHT HIM TO THE DEATH as NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER tries to KILL WHEELCHAIR GUY's REAL BODY. WHEELCHAIR GUY manages to NOT DIE. However, he is GOING TO DIE SOON.

His DYING BODY is taken to the NOT DEUS EX MACHINA so that he can SWITCH BODIES. Unlike for NOT DIANE FOSSEY, it WORKS. This reminds the AUDIENCE of how LIFE is not about THOUGHT or CARING, but about MURDERING EVERYTHING IN VIOLENT WAYS.

WHEELCHAIR GUY is now PERMANENTLY a TALL PERSON. He KICKS the PEOPLE WHO HIRED HIM off of the PLANET. He then LIVES HIS LIFE on the PLANET without FACING the INEVITABLE RETALIATION by the PEOPLE WHO SPENT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and YEARS OF EFFORT to get the STUFF UNDER THE TREE.

 

[Kurokami]

This is interesting, but it reads a little inconsistently. Like a more forum-style rebuttal and a marketing release got shuffled together. He certainly makes good points, but I'm not quite sure what to make of it.

I have to say though, Jimmy struck me as a troll, while this guy seems so much more courteous.

 

[imnot]

Spoiler

See if you can spot the following movies below:

Platoon (it was on tv the other day, and I instantly recognized the first 5 minutes)
Aliens
Gorillas in the Mist
Stargate
Dances with Wolves (ironically, I'm only putting this in here because everyone says it's there)

Avatar's Screenplay:

OPEN: DEAD BROTHER
NOT-WHEELCHAIR GUY: Your turn.
WHEELCHAIR GUY: Kay.

NEXT we see OPENING FROM PLATOON minus CHARLIE SHEEN.
Then STANDARD BRIEFING AND EXPOSITION. Use the word UNOBTANIUM for ORIGINALITY POINTS.
WHEELCHAIR GUY goes to WORLD OF WARCRAFT LOADING SCREEN and uses his DEAD BROTHER's CHARACTER.
WHEELCHAIR GUY is now a TALL PERSON. TALL PERSON plays BASKETBALL with NOT DIANE FOSSEY.
WHEELCHAIR GUY is WHEELCHAIR GUY again. He goes to THE LOADING BAY from ALIENS and meets NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER. NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER talks about KILLING TALL PEOPLE with his NOT POWER LOADER.

TALL PEOPLE are WALKING THROUGH THE FOREST when WHEELCHAIR GUY SCREWS UP.
NOT DIANE FOSSEY is PISSED.
LOVE INTEREST shows up and SAVES HIS ASS.

SHIT HAPPENS.

WHEELCHAIR GUY meets LOVE INTEREST's FATHER, DOOMED NATIVE CHIEF, and MOTHER, LIVES UNTIL END OF MOVIE.

MORE SHIT HAPPENS.

WHEELCHAIR GUY has ALIEN SEX with a PTERODACTYL. The PTERODACTYL is his PARTNER for LIFE. He rides his LIFE PARTNER for a while.

He RETURNS to the MACGUFFIN BLOCKER and receives OBVIOUS FORESHADOWING.

Meanwhile, NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER and THE WEYLAND-YUTANI REPRESENTATIVE are getting BORED because WHEELCHAIR GUY is ONLY DOING the PART OF HIS JOB that GETS MOST OF THE TALL PEOPLE KILLED and NOT the part of his job where he TELLS THE TALL PEOPLE WHAT'S GOING ON.

WHEELCHAIR GUY has ALIEN SEX with LOVE INTEREST.
A BULLDOZER shows up to PLOW THE ALIENS.

NOT DIANE FOSSEY is MURDERED by NOT GORILLA POACHERS.
They TRY to PUT HER IN A NEW BODY. It FAILS, but now we KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN.

WEYLAND-YUTANI REPRESENTATIVE loses his PATIENCE and tells NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER to BURN IT ALL DOWN. HE DOES. DOOMED NATIVE CHIEF is caught in the attack and DIES. The TALL PEOPLE now HATE WHEELCHAIR GUY. The AUDIENCE feels PITY.

WHEELCHAIR GUY remembers the OBVIOUS FORESHADOWING and uses it to CONVINCE the TALL PEOPLE to TAKE REVENGE on the PEOPLE WHO HIRED HIM. This has NOTHING TO DO with him BEING FIRED for NOT ACTUALLY DOING HIS JOB.

WEYLAND-YUTANI REPRESENTATIVE notices that an ARMY OF TALL PEOPLE is GATHERING to MURDER HIS ASS. He tells NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

A BOMBER carries a BOMB to BOMB the ARMY. GUNSHIPS protect it. The TALL PEOPLE ARMY shows up riding PTERODACTYLS and THROW STICKS at the GUNSHIPS. The GUNSHIPS EXPLODE. NOT POWER LOADERS are deployed. They are destroyed by SLEIPNIRS.

LOTS OF PEOPLE DIE IMMEMORABLY.

LOVE INTEREST fights NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER in his NOT POWER LOADER. She FAILS. WHEELCHAIR GUY has to FIGHT HIM TO THE DEATH as NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER tries to KILL WHEELCHAIR GUY's REAL BODY. WHEELCHAIR GUY manages to NOT DIE. However, he is GOING TO DIE SOON.

His DYING BODY is taken to the NOT DEUS EX MACHINA so that he can SWITCH BODIES. Unlike for NOT DIANE FOSSEY, it WORKS. This reminds the AUDIENCE of how LIFE is not about THOUGHT or CARING, but about MURDERING EVERYTHING IN VIOLENT WAYS.

WHEELCHAIR GUY is now PERMANENTLY a TALL PERSON. He KICKS the PEOPLE WHO HIRED HIM off of the PLANET. He then LIVES HIS LIFE on the PLANET without FACING the INEVITABLE RETALIATION by the PEOPLE WHO SPENT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and YEARS OF EFFORT to get the STUFF UNDER THE TREE.

Wow you really just summed up the whole film!

 

[JaymesFogarty]

Avatar should have been called, "stockholme Syndrome 3D. Am I right?

Heh, that made me laugh. It should have been called alot of things, really anything other than Avatar, since that whole mess of a movie that M.night made should have called it. Seriously though...
"Dances with Wolves 3D!"
'Pocahontas 3D'!
"How not to Negotiate valuable resources with primitive smurf cultures 3d"
or maybe even
"Team America World police 2: Terrorize this aliens! Also in 3D!"
Or just
"3D the official fad! in 3D"

I like the last one. Surprisingly,the characters in that title have more intrigue and depth than the characters in the film. That's a little odd, isn't it?

 

[red dragon 52]

And Hollywoods new Kubrick rolls out his ego to clout films that dare defile £D where his masterpiece was once screened...

How dare you insult Kubrick by comparing him to the creator of blue Pocahontas IN 3D!

 

[Endocrom]

He made statements directly to "Jim" six times. That got annoying.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

I have to agree with this guy, Cameron is definatly full of himself. So he made Dances with Smurfs ion 3D big deal. The plot he used has been done by many many other movies, Dances with Wolves, Furngully, The Last Samurai, Pocahontas Ect. I just think Cameran needs to be taken down a few pegs....

Let's cut off his fingers so he can't grab onto a lower one.

 

[Redd]

See if you can spot the following movies below:

Platoon (it was on tv the other day, and I instantly recognized the first 5 minutes)
Aliens
Gorillas in the Mist
Stargate
Dances with Wolves (ironically, I'm only putting this in here because everyone says it's there)

Avatar's Screenplay:

OPEN: DEAD BROTHER
NOT-WHEELCHAIR GUY: Your turn.
WHEELCHAIR GUY: Kay.

NEXT we see OPENING FROM PLATOON minus CHARLIE SHEEN.
Then STANDARD BRIEFING AND EXPOSITION. Use the word UNOBTANIUM for ORIGINALITY POINTS.
WHEELCHAIR GUY goes to WORLD OF WARCRAFT LOADING SCREEN and uses his DEAD BROTHER's CHARACTER.
WHEELCHAIR GUY is now a TALL PERSON. TALL PERSON plays BASKETBALL with NOT DIANE FOSSEY.
WHEELCHAIR GUY is WHEELCHAIR GUY again. He goes to THE LOADING BAY from ALIENS and meets NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER. NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER talks about KILLING TALL PEOPLE with his NOT POWER LOADER.

TALL PEOPLE are WALKING THROUGH THE FOREST when WHEELCHAIR GUY SCREWS UP.
NOT DIANE FOSSEY is PISSED.
LOVE INTEREST shows up and SAVES HIS ASS.

SHIT HAPPENS.

WHEELCHAIR GUY meets LOVE INTEREST's FATHER, DOOMED NATIVE CHIEF, and MOTHER, LIVES UNTIL END OF MOVIE.

MORE SHIT HAPPENS.

WHEELCHAIR GUY has ALIEN SEX with a PTERODACTYL. The PTERODACTYL is his PARTNER for LIFE. He rides his LIFE PARTNER for a while.

He RETURNS to the MACGUFFIN BLOCKER and receives OBVIOUS FORESHADOWING.

Meanwhile, NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER and THE WEYLAND-YUTANI REPRESENTATIVE are getting BORED because WHEELCHAIR GUY is ONLY DOING the PART OF HIS JOB that GETS MOST OF THE TALL PEOPLE KILLED and NOT the part of his job where he TELLS THE TALL PEOPLE WHAT'S GOING ON.

WHEELCHAIR GUY has ALIEN SEX with LOVE INTEREST.
A BULLDOZER shows up to PLOW THE ALIENS.

NOT DIANE FOSSEY is MURDERED by NOT GORILLA POACHERS.
They TRY to PUT HER IN A NEW BODY. It FAILS, but now we KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN.

WEYLAND-YUTANI REPRESENTATIVE loses his PATIENCE and tells NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER to BURN IT ALL DOWN. HE DOES. DOOMED NATIVE CHIEF is caught in the attack and DIES. The TALL PEOPLE now HATE WHEELCHAIR GUY. The AUDIENCE feels PITY.

WHEELCHAIR GUY remembers the OBVIOUS FORESHADOWING and uses it to CONVINCE the TALL PEOPLE to TAKE REVENGE on the PEOPLE WHO HIRED HIM. This has NOTHING TO DO with him BEING FIRED for NOT ACTUALLY DOING HIS JOB.

WEYLAND-YUTANI REPRESENTATIVE notices that an ARMY OF TALL PEOPLE is GATHERING to MURDER HIS ASS. He tells NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

A BOMBER carries a BOMB to BOMB the ARMY. GUNSHIPS protect it. The TALL PEOPLE ARMY shows up riding PTERODACTYLS and THROW STICKS at the GUNSHIPS. The GUNSHIPS EXPLODE. NOT POWER LOADERS are deployed. They are destroyed by SLEIPNIRS.

LOTS OF PEOPLE DIE IMMEMORABLY.

LOVE INTEREST fights NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER in his NOT POWER LOADER. She FAILS. WHEELCHAIR GUY has to FIGHT HIM TO THE DEATH as NOT SIGOURNEY WEAVER tries to KILL WHEELCHAIR GUY's REAL BODY. WHEELCHAIR GUY manages to NOT DIE. However, he is GOING TO DIE SOON.

His DYING BODY is taken to the NOT DEUS EX MACHINA so that he can SWITCH BODIES. Unlike for NOT DIANE FOSSEY, it WORKS. This reminds the AUDIENCE of how LIFE is not about THOUGHT or CARING, but about MURDERING EVERYTHING IN VIOLENT WAYS.

WHEELCHAIR GUY is now PERMANENTLY a TALL PERSON. He KICKS the PEOPLE WHO HIRED HIM off of the PLANET. He then LIVES HIS LIFE on the PLANET without FACING the INEVITABLE RETALIATION by the PEOPLE WHO SPENT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and YEARS OF EFFORT to get the STUFF UNDER THE TREE.

I think you are my favorite person of all time. OF ALL TIME. That was the funniest damn thing I have read all day.

Now, OT. I don't like 3D to be honest. Probably because I already wear glasses so putting glasses over my glasses and not really being able to see what in the fuu is going on is annoying. I don't like Avatar simply because it was a dead horse and Jim beat it to death and back. In other words " Live you damn horse! Live! And now that you are alive, die damn horse! Die! ....and make me some money. " But with that being said, I don't like Killer Fish Story in 3D. All of this could have been avoided if idiot A would have kept his overly big mouth shut about idiot B's movie. Then we could have farted rainbows and went off to effing happy land.

 

[firemark]

I have a few friends that loved Avatar. They claimed that it was one of the best movies ever made. I challenged them to say why and all they could say was that it was awesome. As several people have already pointed out, the story has been done many times before and better. It was simply the spectacle that brought it to the next level as far as entertainment goes. I saw it in 2D, which apparently is a crime, and I didn't enjoy myself at all.

 

[Snake Plissken]

It hurts me to say it, but fuck James Cameron. He made my favorite movie of (and Imma let him finish...) ALL TIME when he made Aliens, but this is inexcusable.

I saw both movies, and I saw neither one of them in 3D. Piranha was miles better than Avatar.