It's the retailers' fault, not the games companies.Onmi said:
That's what's so great about Steam.
Pirate Party Swells After Spectrial Verdict
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That's what's so great about Steam.
While Steam is great mostly I'm getting sick of the insane prices, compared to retail prices and compared to what the prices are elsewhere. A new release on Steam is generally 20% more than if I buy it in retail. How does that make sense? I pay more and I get less. No manual, no disk, no nothing. But I pay more.Lord Krunk said:
lolLeroy Frederick said:Pirates don't care about whether your a greedy corporation, they put indie stuff up for stealing too. As far as your analogy for justifying stealing music, that makes no sense either (assuming it's available in the following example) because itunes and the like allow you to buy singles from as little as £1 / $1 or less and not liking the whole album doesn't justify stealing a few songs instead off it instead.painfull2006 said:i like one or two songs on the CD and i feel its not worth buying
so really, if im not going to be giving my money to these greedy huge companies then in MY opinion its ok
redmarine said:
It's been said already and I'll say it again, 90-95% of people steal (not pirate, steal) other peoples work because they don't want to pay and can get away with it, simply as that. It has nothing to do with quality, DRM, no demo, no money, only liked 1 song, motorway gridlock, sticking it to the man, freedom for everyone, being Robin Hood or any other bullshit excuses these 90-95% come up with.
ENTERTAINMENT IS NOT A COMMODITY. If this party was ensuring everybody has a right to live and eat then power to them, if pirate bay was helping third world countries get a little joy in their life they otherwise couldn't afford then power to them too (although I think food & water is a bit higher up in their pecking order) but none of this is the case.
I don't give a shit whether it's Microsoft or 2dBoy, it's all anonymous digital-equivalent retail store theft. If you want to show the evil corporations or think something is crap, don't frigging buy it, simple as, no one is forcing you. This isn't the flipping British (forced) TV license where you have to pay just for owning a device that transmits TV whether you watch their stations or not, now that's a cause pirates should be dealing with, not stuff you have a choice in buying and no God given right to as a basic life provision.
I'd for love these people to try taking games, music and other entertainment from retail stores without paying for some of the same lame reasons they come up with and see if they don't end up learning the fine art of picking up soap for their troubles.
people won't do nearly as much if they aren't rewarded. It's just how people are. I wouldn't invest all the time it takes to create a game if I wasn't able to make a living off of it and working another job. Same with inventions. Edison did most of his inventing to get paid and was a shameless self-promoter.
what if we don't care about justifying piracy and just want EA to collapse?Leroy Frederick said:Pirates don't care about whether your a greedy corporation, they put indie stuff up for stealing too. As far as your analogy for justifying stealing music, that makes no sense either (assuming it's available in the following example) because itunes and the like allow you to buy singles from as little as £1 / $1 or less and not liking the whole album doesn't justify stealing a few songs instead off it instead.painfull2006 said:i like one or two songs on the CD and i feel its not worth buying
so really, if im not going to be giving my money to these greedy huge companies then in MY opinion its ok
redmarine said:
It's been said already and I'll say it again, 90-95% of people steal (not pirate, steal) other peoples work because they don't want to pay and can get away with it, simply as that. It has nothing to do with quality, DRM, no demo, no money, only liked 1 song, motorway gridlock, sticking it to the man, freedom for everyone, being Robin Hood or any other bullshit excuses these 90-95% come up with.
ENTERTAINMENT IS NOT A COMMODITY. If this party was ensuring everybody has a right to live and eat then power to them, if pirate bay was helping third world countries get a little joy in their life they otherwise couldn't afford then power to them too (although I think food & water is a bit higher up in their pecking order) but none of this is the case.
I don't give a shit whether it's Microsoft or 2dBoy, it's all anonymous digital-equivalent retail store theft. If you want to show the evil corporations or think something is crap, don't frigging buy it, simple as, no one is forcing you. This isn't the flipping British (forced) TV license where you have to pay just for owning a device that transmits TV whether you watch their stations or not, now that's a cause pirates should be dealing with, not stuff you have a choice in buying and no God given right to as a basic life provision.
I'd for love these people to try taking games, music and other entertainment from retail stores without paying for some of the same lame reasons they come up with and see if they don't end up learning the fine art of picking up soap for their troubles.
Also.. 35 dollars for a new blu-ray release? GO PIRATES!
You keep your money in your wallet. Not liking EA or wanting to pay 35 dollars for blue ray isn't a reason to steal something instead. Besides (as I said numerous times), Stardock, 2dBoy, myself and other indie games etc aren't frigging EA, yet our work is still available free of charge courtesy of your friends.
You do it cause you can get away with it online, got nothing to do with EA and the establishment or cost. Try going into your favourite local game store and pocketing a EA game, then when your escorted back into the store and take you to the back room for a nice quiet word, try telling them you did it because you want EA to collapse, how EA is evil and how they have more money then you. When that's finished, let us know about your brand new / updated police record! GO PIRATE!
**By the way, nice avatar
You do it cause you can get away with it online, got nothing to do with EA and the establishment or cost. Try going into your favourite local game store and pocketing a EA game, then when your escorted back into the store and take you to the back room for a nice quiet word, try telling them you did it because you want EA to collapse, how EA is evil and how they have more money then you. When that's finished, let us know about your brand new / updated police record! GO PIRATE!
**By the way, nice avatar