M-E-D The Poet said:
You should probably not do this:
yes, game developers are being cheated out of a cut, but guess what pirates do? They buy games they deem worth it
If your game is not worth it, then they're not buying
...state that piracy has an economic gain...
The brunt of pirates are just gamers who have no money to keep on buying AAA titles on release
....then follow it up with an argument stating that pirates have no economic power.
You can choose one. Both stances are contradictory.
The demand for video games is the only reason they exist, that demand remains active thanks to pirates too
I think Pirates are like Ryanair for the gaming industry
The demand to buy video games remains active because of a black market that charges nothing?
Learn what 'supply and demand' is and how 'basic fucking economics' works. By putting out a product for free, you've created a competitor for the same product that is not free. You're not 'creating demand' for the product that is not free, you're 'taking demand away' from the product that is not free.
This is how economics works on a fundamental level. Your failure to understand this undermines any argument you could possibly make about the economic viability of piracy and benefits to the producer.
They advertise a shitload, they mod like crazy to work around fix, and perfect the games they take as their own and then advertise some more
With all the advertising be it mouth to mouth or forum based these pirates do
They attract at least 2 people who will buy the game based on their fandom/biases
Is this arugment based on faith or fact? Are you insinuating that people who economically invest in a game are less passionate? Are you actually going to fucking suggest that a guy who likes a publisher or francise enough to actually open his wallet rather than piratebay.org is somehow less invested?
This sets into motion a chain of events where a pirate is actually worth more to a game developer than a consumer
Except those 2 people are then given a torrent by the pirate, so that they don't have to buy the game. The same pirate then tells them how not to pay for it, so that their friends can enjoy the same experience they had.
Piracy breeds further piracy, more than it breeds sales.
But nobody ever thinks of that!
Because it's batshit insane, counters the laws of how economics works on a fundamental level, and doesn't actually happen.
It's a myth, a fantasy, that occurs occasionally in anecdote, but
DOES NOT ACTUALLY HAPPEN ENOUGH TO MEAN A FUCK.
Your regular consumer will mostly whine about how bad a game he got for his money
A pirate will just tell you clean and simple what the game is and what's wrong with it (and if there's people looking to fix that)
Because people who pay money for a game are predisposed to hating a game? You're going to have to provide some sort of evidence to that, because most people who spend money on things will actually try to rationalize their decisions and are more likely to defend their commerce. It's called "Post-Purchase Rationalization". It's an actual thing.
You should, like, try to research this.
Settings mapping and fine tuning gear to have games played best
that's what pirates do
Modders != Pirates. Some modders are pirates and some modders are not. You're confusing two completely fucking different terms here.
Now sure you can clasp me in irons but I'm giving you the truth here
Most people who pirate games won't go heralding that they're pirates, they will however herald games they thought would be worth the money, and if they knew those games would be they'd save up for it
So, if they knew the game they stole would be worth the money, they'd have paid for it.
This implies that they do not pay for it after the fact.
This is truly the mindset of the "white-hat pirate." See, once you've stolen it, and enjoyed it, and had your fun with it, and you make a positive review... you have no need to purchase it. So you don't.
Because people are people and not everyone is filthy rich
Basically THIS is the entire crux of your argument. You don't steal because you need it. You don't steal because it's required for you to function.
You steal because you're fucking cheap. You can't afford something so you feel entitled to have it. That's it. Everything else is bullshit rationalization, and people can
fucking see right through it.
Now come on, no one believes you're so naive as to believe the fucking crap you just spouted. This is just the aggrandizing rationalization pirates
blatantly lie about to sell their world view.
Either you're smart enough to realize how fucking wrong you are, and are lying to get away with theft.... or you're so fucking naive you need to wake the hell up because this shit is detrimental to society, and yourself.
Think about it.
BiH-Kira said:
And no, even if there where no pirates at all, there would still be a shitload of DRM simply because the companies like to control how you use your product and "just in case if some pirates appear".
1) Before there was DRM, there were people pirating. Stealing is so fucking old it's mentioned in the bible. SPOILER ALERT: They thought it was bad.
2) There's no 'Just in case if some pirates appear.' Every game is pirated. Every. Single. Fucking. One.
Does this mean that I want harsh DRM in every game? Hell no. It was annoying when the game would stop just so I could look up some code in some code wheel based on amorpheus images... or worse... try to find an image that matched it in the manual... and while it's less bothersome now, it's still annoying.
But pirates are not blameless. They came first, not the DRM. They have no fucking leg to stand on in this. No, you're not here because of DRM. You're here to get free shit. The DRM issue is just your fucking propaganda, and smart people know that. You know that.
