Pizza a vegetable?
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I heard it was pushed though by some food lobbyists so pizza could be served for school lunches and count as a serving of vegetables.
Continue to be served, that is. They're already being served. New regulations would have done away with or limited that and frozen food groups didn't like that so they lobbied for effectively an exception.shameduser said:
the blocked rule (read: The rule that DIDN'T go into effect, IE, nothing really changed) would have required pizza manufacturers who provide school lunches for those school that choose to follow the guideline to count their pizzas as having less vegetable content. In order to make up the difference, they just would have added more tomato paste, because like it or not, tomato paste is actually fairly nutritious.
How it stands currently is that an eighth of a cup of tomato paste is counted as having the nutrition of a half cup of vegetables - and it's really kind of hard to argue - "half cup of vegetables" is a really weird thing to measure to begin with, but if we even try to measure it against a favorable opponent, the fresh vegetables are MOSTLY water when compared to the paste, which contains almost no water.
So congress didn't declare pizzas as vegetables, or even make any real changes that involve pizza, they only decided against adjusting a rule that makes sense. Nothing changed with the pizzas. While I don't personally think that pizza is "health food", there are CERTAINLY worse things to eat, and there's not much better for kids to eat that they're actually going to be excited to eat.
Could the pizzas be better? more nutritious? of course, but if you completely remove the concept of pizza as a viable option just because it can be greasy and bad for you, then, you just have fun eating your twigs.
Nothing changed. Learn what happened before you decided to make stupid threads about stupid things that were misunderstood to begin with.
How it stands currently is that an eighth of a cup of tomato paste is counted as having the nutrition of a half cup of vegetables - and it's really kind of hard to argue - "half cup of vegetables" is a really weird thing to measure to begin with, but if we even try to measure it against a favorable opponent, the fresh vegetables are MOSTLY water when compared to the paste, which contains almost no water.
So congress didn't declare pizzas as vegetables, or even make any real changes that involve pizza, they only decided against adjusting a rule that makes sense. Nothing changed with the pizzas. While I don't personally think that pizza is "health food", there are CERTAINLY worse things to eat, and there's not much better for kids to eat that they're actually going to be excited to eat.
Could the pizzas be better? more nutritious? of course, but if you completely remove the concept of pizza as a viable option just because it can be greasy and bad for you, then, you just have fun eating your twigs.
Nothing changed. Learn what happened before you decided to make stupid threads about stupid things that were misunderstood to begin with.
They support Christmas, even with its champion Santa Claus. I mean, making billions of toys for free? Giving them away to good children? SOCIALISM!trollpwner said:
If pizza is a vegetable then America is a country.
OH WAIT, NO THEY ARE NOT. YOU FAIL! YOU GET NOTHING!
YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY, SIR/MADAM!
OH WAIT, NO THEY ARE NOT. YOU FAIL! YOU GET NOTHING!
YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY, SIR/MADAM!
Thank you!!JesterRaiin said:More wiser than me answered that vital problem.
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...and that;s the bottom line FTW.
I still want that image as a tshirt too! I think it would work so well!
I have a few other surprises at my disposal. I'm simply... waiting... for the proper moment... to unleash all hell's fury...DeanoTheGod said:Thank you!!
This quote from a site that was linked in the old thread pretty much explains my views on it.
The fact that they are trying to make out like something remotely near a pizza is healthy for the kids is the real hilarity.
Wrong! America desperate.BlueSinbad said:
See, cafeteria food here in America is shit. Like, maybe if you're not American you think your cafeteria food sucks, but you're wrong it's fucking delicious and you're just a whiner. So like, all they can get the kids to eat is pizza. But pizza is officially recognized as junk food, and parents don't like schools giving their kids junk food because they expect the school to raise their kids for them. So they declared the sauce equal to one serving of vegetables so they could say "See we're giving them vegetables for real man get off our backs!"
I hear it was just political maneuvering so they could still sell pizza in public school. As a public school student who has to choose between frozen pb&j sandwiches, some sort of meaty paste, and pizza, I'm not complaining. Still going to mock though.
Is it really that "pizza" is a vegetable, or that the specifics about how much tomato sauce counts as a serving changed? I mean, it kind of just seems like a way to make the news sounds more ridiculous than it actually is.
Anyway just because tomato paste/sauce/whatever isn't a "vegetable," it's still made from it, you're getting the same stuff that was in the tomato, more or less (plus preservatives and additive and what not but that's beside the point). That's like saying drinking carrot juice won't give you the same nutrition as eating the carrot used to make the juice (maybe you'd be missing out on some of the fiber, I guess).
While it isn't a vegetable, it's obviously made from . . . no wait, it's a trick question isn't it.Darkwhite said:
Anyway just because tomato paste/sauce/whatever isn't a "vegetable," it's still made from it, you're getting the same stuff that was in the tomato, more or less (plus preservatives and additive and what not but that's beside the point). That's like saying drinking carrot juice won't give you the same nutrition as eating the carrot used to make the juice (maybe you'd be missing out on some of the fiber, I guess).
