~*~Pleasant Surprise~*~ Films

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In the authoring and following on my other film-related thread (about the upcoming Star Wars film) I noticed a certain jaded outlook in a number of Escapists.

The Force Awakens, I've been advised, will be of the Marvel ilk, a movie full of glitz and glam but lacking in anything approaching memorable substance.

This assertion I gather is based off a solid grounding in contemporary action/adventure/epic films - many of such films by implication being produced by Marvel - which has lead people to expect certain things from new releases of similar flavour or target demographic.

Which films have bucked this trend?

Which films have you been pleasantly surprised by, recently? Ones that, lo! Featured memorable scenes. How many of them were memorable almost in their entirety? How long ago was the last of these films on your plate? What genre?
 

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sky pies said:
The Force Unleashed, I've been advised, will be of the Marvel ilk, a movie full of glitz and glam but lacking in anything approaching memorable substance.
That's a game. I'm assuming you mean 'The Force Awakens.'

But I take your meaning. Recently, I can't think of many new action films that wowed me above Marvels stuff, but then again, I don't judge Marvel quite as harshly as most of the people in that thread seem to. I thought Winter Soldier was fantastic -Perhaps I'll watch it tonight, after Ernest Scared Stupid.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
sky pies said:
The Force Unleashed, I've been advised, will be of the Marvel ilk, a movie full of glitz and glam but lacking in anything approaching memorable substance.
That's a game. I'm assuming you mean 'The Force Awakens.'
HA! cheers.

I'm going to use this thread as an exercise in thinking back and ruminating about past films, and try to build a list of pleasant surprise films, but I'd say my opening entry on that list would be There Will Be Blood, which instantly attained what is now a permanent place in my top 5.
 

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I remember really liking Dredd, despite not having high expectations coming in. Rewatched it recently, and it's still quite good. It's just a damn solid action movie, none of that bullshit shaky cam shit we've come to swallow from so many "action" movies in recent years. Plot isn't deep, but what's there is good, and works well in the context of what the movie is doing. We're given characters, they even have arcs, satisfying ending, just the whole shebang in a great package.

I also thought Alien 3 was pretty good, despite not being liked by many (and then being defended by some others). It may have helped that I watched a Director's Cut version, which was very long, but at least everything made sense.
 

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I expected way less out of Ant-Man and got a surprisingly pleasant, entertaining little action flick out of it.

Emphasis on the 'little', I think, which was perhaps why the film worked well. Marvel Studios managed to get the scale right, they didn't try to make Ant-Man more epic than it should've been. It was tight, focused and relatively intimate in terms of scale. And that really helped with me liking it a lot more than I thought I would, it didn't try too hard.

In a similar way my view on Blade Runner was also changed positively a while back. I already knew it was a hallmark and it was already one of my favourite movies in all time. But then they re-screened it in a local theater a while back for its 30th anniversary. So I though eh, why not view it again in theaters.

And, well...


Bloody hell I should've realized before what an amazing theater experience that movie made. My already extremely high opinion of this movie was trumped by an even higher one. It was such a privilege to get the opportunity to watch it on the big screen and find this out. Now that's a pleasant surprise you can write home about.
 

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I'm not good with dates of films for the most part, so I'll just go with my pleasant surprised this year.

I was actually pleasantly surprised by both Terminator: Genisys and Jurassic World, despite both of them being subject to much ridicule this year. The former seems to realise how stupid and messy the series is, and just has fun which is the best possible route to go after 3 and 4. Jurassic World is unbelievably fun, and holy shit that final battle is just amazing. It's my favourite of the series, and it actually made me want to watch the original trilogy. Incidentally, I actually found Jurassic Park 3 to be somewhat OK. Given how maligned Lost World and 3 are, I found this pleasantly surprising.

There was also this year's version of Far From the Madding Crowd which was actually really sweet, nice looking and well executed (and waaaaaay better than the book). Any complaints I have are nit picks at best, and I had at best luke warm thoughts about it before actually seeing it.
 

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I was awesomely surprised by Hotel Transylvania. I watched it because the sequel is in cinemas and the store I work at is giving the film merch away with kids meals, and since no one else I work with watches kids films, I might as well learn the characters in case a kid demands a certain one.

(Also I like kids films. The above is the excuse I use to watch them anyway).
 

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It wasn't that recent that I'd seen it, but the biggest (positive) gap for me was for a film called Imagine That with Eddie Murphy. Now that's not to say it's a masterpiece; I was just expecting a mediocre (semi-decent at best) movie and instead found myself very moved with the characters and certain scenes/moments in particular. Still not sure I'd recommend people go out of their way to make sure they see it, but if it's on or you get the chance - try it, you may be surprised like I was.

An actually recent one was The Book of Life. It went completely under the radar for me at release and I only saw it the other day on TV. At first the animation really put me off and I didn't have high hopes but I ended up loving it :D
 

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Oh, I like this thread. It's more positive.

I really liked Up. The commercials looked awful. An old man in a flying rainbow colored house? With balloons? I was already pessimistic about Pixar being bought by Disney (a trend lately). Boy was I wrong, Pete Doctor really delivered. The first ten minutes floored me. It was the best film in years. It's just... Good stuff. Not many films can make me that emotional.

On the other end of the spectrum is End of Evangelion. I rewatched it recently, and I didn't remember liking it very much. I've never been more wrong. It's my favorite film of all time, just rediculously intricate and complex. There really isn't anything like it.
 

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Inside Out. Hated the trailers, suspicious about the reviews, but hey, Pixar. Honestly my expectations were pretty high and it still blew me away.

...Soaked my napkin completely through...
 

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People seem to be including both DVD and film releases, so here's a list of films I've seen this year, film or otherwise, that were better than I thought they'd be:

-Terminator: Genisys. Y'know, I thought I'd hate this, after seeing the trailers. And I saw it not long after seeing Jurrassic World, a film which I enjoyed, but didn't live up to expectation, and is only superior to JP3 in my eyes. Genisys, however, was the best Terminator film since the first two IMO.

-Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. Bought this on DVD for $5. I didn't have many expecations, considering that it's a videogame movie, and one that isn't rated too highly. And that said, while I don't think it's good (it's "okay" IMO), I still enjoyed it.

-Iron Man 3: Same scenario - $5 dollars, wasn't expecting much, given how few of the MCU films I've enjoyed. But, once again, this bucked the trend, and out of all the MCU films I've seen, is my favorite (ducks flying object).

-Star Trek: The Motion Picture: Borrowed this from the library. And to be honest, I enjoy it. Not the best Star Trek film I've seen, and it lurks closer to the bottom than the top for me. But yes, I enjoyed it. Found it interesting from both a thematic and visual standpoint.

-Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation: Caught this on a whim, had no expectations. But I enjoyed it. It's been so long since I've seen the first two MI films, that I can't rank this in relation to them, but overall, I enjoyed it. Fun ride, good thriller.

-Star Trek: Nemesis: I'm including this on the proviso that this isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Though it's still my second least favorite Star Trek film.

-Do You See Me?: An Italian film that I saw at an Italian film festival. I had no preconceptions about it, but damn was it better than I thought it would be. In fact, it would be my second favorite film this year.

-Star Wars Films: I'm grouping Episodes I-VI together as I did a marathon in preparation for The Force Awakens. So, on that note:

-The Phantom Menace: This actually went down for me. I loved this film as a kid, holding it in the same regard as the OT. Watching it now, it's actually gone down significantly for me. That said, I still enjoy this film. Is it flawed? Absolutely. But at the end of the day, I still had fun.

-Attack of the Clones: Always my least favorite of the Star Wars films, even back when I first saw it. Rewatching it now, it's actually gone up in terms of my appreciation for it. Yeah, the Anakin/Padme stuff is bollocks, as are the lightsaber fights in the end, but factor in Christopher Lee's performance as Dooku, and the material where Obi-Wan is by himself on Kamino and Geonosis, and some other material, there is stuff I enjoyed. That said, it remains my least favorite.

-Revenge of the Sith: I loved this film back in the day. I've always maintained that RotS is a genuinely good film - one that has its flaws, but is leagues apart from the first two prequel episodes. Having rewatched this film in the marathon, my appreciation has gone up even higher.

-A New Hope: Loved this as a kid. As an adult, if anything, my apprecation of this film has gone up even more. The characters, the pacing, the music, the motifs, the action - for a film released in 1977, it holds up amazingly well. In fact, I think A New Hope has taken the no. 1 spot for Star Wars films for me.

-The Empire Strikes Back: Um...to be honest...I've never liked the Empire Strikes Back. Rewatching the film, I was reminded why. I hold it above the first two episodes, but...well, I'll leave it here. Want to keep my head.

-Return of the Jedi: For years, RotJ has been my favorite Star Wars film, a position I've clung to even while remaining one of the few people on the planet who doesn't like TESB. Rewatching it as an adult...yes, I still love this movie. It's not perfect, and as mentioned, I think A New Hope has edged it out, in that I feel ANH is overall a better crafted movie. But as an adult, my appreciation of RotJ has increased. So, it takes the no. 2 spot, but it's a very close call.
 

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Someone already mentioned it, but "CA: Winter Soldier". I liked Captain America, so I figured Winter Soldier would be good, but I was just stunned how much of a tone change Winter Soldier was compared to the first movie, and then I was further shocked at how good the action sequences were, how well done the plot was, and how awesome of a baddy the Winter Soldier himself was. Tied with Guardians of the Galaxy as my favorite Marvel movie so far.

The Lego Movie: I honestly had zero expectations one way or another for this movie, but I can't remember the last time I laughed so hard.

Edge of Tomorrow: I generally don't like Tom Cruise, and I definitely kind of rolled my eyes when my friends suggested we go see "Edge of Tomorrow", but holy cow was I wrong. Phenomenal movie.
 

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Fat_Hippo said:
I remember really liking Dredd, despite not having high expectations coming in. Rewatched it recently, and it's still quite good. It's just a damn solid action movie, none of that bullshit shaky cam shit we've come to swallow from so many "action" movies in recent years. Plot isn't deep, but what's there is good, and works well in the context of what the movie is doing. We're given characters, they even have arcs, satisfying ending, just the whole shebang in a great package.
I was going to say that. I was expecting another OtT action hero shooting stuff for no reason, and while there were certainly elements of that, they made it into an actual movie.
 

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I really liked Up. The commercials looked awful. An old man in a flying rainbow colored house? With balloons? I was already pessimistic about Pixar being bought by Disney (a trend lately). Boy was I wrong, Pete Doctor really delivered. The first ten minutes floored me. It was the best film in years. It's just... Good stuff. Not many films can make me that emotional.
Yes i'll add this to my list. Up is definitely the definitive Pleasant Surprise film for me.

I think I'll also put in Dune.

People always diss out Dune as one of the great godawful movies of all time, but having read the novel before viewing the film (this admittedly would be a must for any potential viewer) I found the movie to be a really great, really accurate recreation of the book.

I mean I'm not trying to be esoteric here, I only like the movie because I watched it with the source material already firmly in my mind, and without that source material the movie would be wacktastic, but the fact is I really enjoyed it.

 

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Fat_Hippo said:
I also thought Alien 3 was pretty good, despite not being liked by many (and then being defended by some others).
Forget them some others.

Alien 3 is fucking awesome.
 

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anthony87 said:
Fat_Hippo said:
I also thought Alien 3 was pretty good, despite not being liked by many (and then being defended by some others).
Forget them some others.

Alien 3 is fucking awesome.
What about 4? I would like to point out that I watched 4 first.
 

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sky pies said:
anthony87 said:
Fat_Hippo said:
I also thought Alien 3 was pretty good, despite not being liked by many (and then being defended by some others).
Forget them some others.

Alien 3 is fucking awesome.
What about 4? I would like to point out that I watched 4 first.
Are you saying that 4 is any good? Because I've avoided it so far, since I've never ever heard anyone defend it from being called shit.
 

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Are you saying that 4 is any good? Because I've avoided it so far, since I've never ever heard anyone defend it from being called shit.
Didn't suck, but the french connection was a bit weird... I liked both 3 and 4, Aliens (2nd one) is actually the only I have been able to watch least. Go figure~
 

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I'm rarely pleasantly surprised when it comes to films. For example I expected Edge of Tomorrow to be good and it was. Anyway, two films come to mind: the first Iron Man was definitely better than I expected, and for another lesser known example I have Reign of Fire which I thought would be simple dumb crap, but it was really enjoyable.
 

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sky pies said:
The Force Awakens, I've been advised, will be of the Marvel ilk, a movie full of glitz and glam but lacking in anything approaching memorable substance.
That is, of course, entirely subjective (I'd say quite a few MCU films have "memorable substance". almost the entirety of The Winter Solider counts as that, for me).

I suppose Interstellar could be a 'surprise' pick. I kinda came to be a Nolan admirer despite the frothing of his fanboys, simply because whilst he's not exactly Kurosawa Mrk.II, he certainly has his craft down, and he seems to get to make some intellectually interesting films slap bang in the middle of the mainstream (which is a distinctly Kurosawa-esque thing to do, to be fair).

But I went into Interstellar looking forward to seeing what Nolan could create mostly in terms of imagery and scope, and was surprised just how emotionally raw and sincere the whole experience was. It was an intimate epic, and those things are damn hard to do. Some might say that emotional punch is down to Mathew Guy Who's Surname I Can Never Spell, but no actor can really give a performance unless a director can give them the [figurative and literal] stage to deliver it, and Nolan drew great performances out of every cast member.

Two other films could be: Spielberg's Munich - never been a fan of Spielberg personally, but that film was almost perfect from start to finish. Not a frame, a word, or a camera movement feels wasted, and I love the sentiment/'message' he puts across. It felt like a passion project, yet tempered by intellect and a kind of humanistic philosophy.

The Adjustment Bureau surprised me. Sure, I went in assuming I'd enjoy Damon and Blunt as a lead combo, but whilst the film is ultimately puddle shallow, it's rather brilliantly staged, and it has a lot of heart/soul.

...oh, and y'know what? I was surprised by Frozen. I'd heard good things, but it was Disney, and I've never really been fussed about the house of M Mouse. I expected to maybe see something finely crafted in terms of animation, but I never expected to go and love the thing.