In cod2 you played the Brits, Americans, and Russians. The Russian campaign was to my mind the best one in the game, fighting of Nazis in Stalingrad, hearing "Fascist! Communist!" being shouted between the two sides. Plus, the Russians had the best machine gun. Fun times. I miss COD2
Please, give us anything but Russia
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Because Russia a super power, that's why that, and China and Korea or "Terrorists" are the bad guys. Most of the developers are American, so USA must be the good guys, and America has always had ties to Western Europe, so it's unlikely they would be the bad guys either, leaving only the obvious.
And to be fair Russia isn't technically the bad guys in MW, they are being manipulated by what Makarov did at Moscow International
And to be fair Russia isn't technically the bad guys in MW, they are being manipulated by what Makarov did at Moscow International
Jeez. You know, guys, Russians don't care that much and those who do are plain wrong.
Russia is just a convenient force to have for the enemy thing. We lost the Cold War, we can take some ideological abuse.
Russia is just a convenient force to have for the enemy thing. We lost the Cold War, we can take some ideological abuse.
My guess is that they want to make the "bad guys" nations that the US has had a history of conflict with.
I know the US never actually fought Russia but they were the designated boogeymen of the west for the better part of a century.
Choosing a past enemy makes the games more realistic.
I mean, if they decided to make Iceland, or Kenya, the enemy nation, would anyone believe that?
I know the US never actually fought Russia but they were the designated boogeymen of the west for the better part of a century.
Choosing a past enemy makes the games more realistic.
I mean, if they decided to make Iceland, or Kenya, the enemy nation, would anyone believe that?
I kkow they have gas but in this game they dont have gas they are on the verge of collapse again. This game would be nothing like CoD. you would engage in constant fighting for around an half hour or more at a time, NOT fighting for 1 minute and than having a cutscene, like is say, CoD. The plot is supposed to be highly unlikely, things like playing a french man fighting with germans in Antarctica fighting against the Peruvians. Unlikely, yes, fun and intresting, a break the ordinary yes. how about playing as a an aussie fighting the Indian army around Ayers rock?alrekr said:
This game would be break from the common fps mold. fighting enemies you have never fought before in places fps's have never been. What you described sounds predictable and more like vanllia CoD than what i have in mind.
They were unbalanced as they glossed over any country other than USA being involved in the war. Most WW2 games forget that the british won in North Africa and that the Russians did most the work in Europe. The Germans couldn't advance past France as we won the battle of britain.Bobic said:
*EDIT* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill
why hasn't he got a game? he ran round with a sword killing nazis who had guns?
BECAUSE by making you play monotonous video games about an evil global takeover from Russia until you become bored of it and rule Russia out as an adversary....THE SOVIET UNION CAN RISE AGAIN and take everyone by surprise!
They're an easily identifiable and easily demon-ised enemy, what with their tenancy to side with/become the bad guys in the last few major conflicts. That makes it easier for us, the players, to feel okay about gunning them down for hours on end. Harsh, but true, and thats why they're made into the enemies so often.
Plus, y'know, they're white. If the enemies in a game were of a different ethnicity (and the game wasn't based on a real historical war) then you just know there'd be cries of racism flying all over the damn place.
Plus, y'know, they're white. If the enemies in a game were of a different ethnicity (and the game wasn't based on a real historical war) then you just know there'd be cries of racism flying all over the damn place.
As an englishman i'd like to see Britain as the bad guys for a change in some form of neo empire building scenario.
Because people everywhere, not just in America, love the familiar. We love recognizing faces and voices, we love recognizing a revisited plot point, we love recognizing the classic story that this new story is diverging from, and we love it when we can look at something and see a pattern. When pop culture and entertainment started being incredibly easy to distribute, the cold war was fresh on our minds. Russia as bad guys became downright Iconic. From there, when an IP came out, and they wanted people to identify with it instantly, they just invoked the old cold war mentality. This would have ended the moment we came across a real life bad guy who we could want desperately to blow up from an unambiguously morally correct standpoint. But none came. The world was all morally grey, or filled with bad guys who couldn't be morally defeated by just attacking in force. We know that Russia are our allies, but invoking the cold war was convenient.
the 2nd american civil war? that could happen & can be interesting.HankMan said:
I'm Russian Ukrainia meself, and i'm sick of killing them. the translations & they way they speak is impersonated POORlY, and they are all portrayed as maniacs who love to burn people & puppies alive, and are pretty much robots.
For once I would like to the Eskimos start the war. You know they're plotting something. They're just too quiet all the time.
Well to be fair I guess the extent of who the baddies in MW3 isnt entirely clear to me besides that Russians are obviously still invading America. But there has to be more then that, there's no way any country could successfully fight on two fronts, one of them being across the Atlantic Ocean on the American East Coast. But then also simultaneously able to invade 3 other countries and gain ground in them? No way. Besides, if it actually is WW3 as the trailer implies, I would expect they would try to make some kind of Axix/Allies thing going on again.