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JezebelinHell said:
Aprilgold said:
Ok, sorry, your avatar creeped me out too much to read on, I'm sure it was interesting and filled with great points, this account was a recent one, old E-mail got hacked, damn that, but whatever, sure it was full of great points though.
Well yours is boring so I am not reading your crusading posts anymore. Nice thing is I won't miss anything that could be pertinent to the topic. Wow, I feel so mature. I shall have to be affected by images more in the future.
I don't have an issue with creepy imagery, but when it repeats, its just.... Yeah, I'm sure your argument was worth it... Yeah.... It just keeps repeating..

Kair said:
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Yes, because forcing me to watch advertisement has such great use-value.

Why not tell me to take loans so the banks will make money?
I've pointed this out previously, watching that ad gives money to the shows that YOU are watching or reading, and keeps these forums up to standard, would you rather not have these shows have gotten off the ground they did, and be hired by a company, gaining fans and being paid so they can continue to make people happy, and to make people enjoy life more? Think about this, if you worked for this company, and if half [about HALF of the people are using ad blocker, just go with it] are not viewing ads, and lets say you get 100$ per ad played on a computer, this means that, oh, I don't know, 40,000$ are NOT being paid to people within the company that need it to live daily, how would you like it.
Before I say anything else, 100 dollars per ad per person? Each ad may have a 1% chance of actually influencing a person to buy a product. The profit from each influenced could be, let's say 20 dollars. You are then spending 100 dollars for a 1% chance of gaining 20 dollars, or 10 000 dollars to gain 20 dollars. That is a 9980 dollar deficit. I may have misunderstood you, but that just seems ridiculous. The revenue generation from each ad is much smaller than you think.

And now I say what I was going to say. That groups of people need ads to support their generation of use-value is moronic to start with. I refuse to argue within the confines of an unjust and impractical society.
Ok, I'll get this right off the bat, it was an example, exagerated, but still an example. Does it matter how, overly exagerated of an example it is, and I didn't know the numbers, I knew it was hurting, anyways, thanks for the point out of my exageration.
 

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OH no, it just sounded like you wrote professionally, I was just curious if you had any books I could buy, it seems like your great at writing.
Okay, I see. That's fine. No, just a bunch of poems and short stories that aren't enough to put together for a book.

Right now I just been looking for a job since I graduated from college in December, there is just nothing out there, unless I was a non-college grad that people didn't have to pay extra money to hire, or a person that doesn't just have a college degree but also has 3 to 5 years of solid experience. But, I am neither of those.

I've also been bummed out because I recently moved into a new apartment and I lost a notebook in the move and it had a great deal of information I had written for a fantasy novel series. It had all of what I had created of a new language for the series.

Now I wish I had gotten around to backing it all up on my computer.
 

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Aprilgold said:
I don't have an issue with creepy imagery, but when it repeats, its just.... Yeah, I'm sure your argument was worth it... Yeah.... It just keeps repeating..
Anyone interested in borrowing Alice for a bit can email me. I am quite proud of her, enjoyed the game too.

Also, exaggerating is not FACT. That is the whole problem with making shit up. You should probably research before you get on a rant like this. But hey, I already said that and you didn't read it either. Good job.
 

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but what if I don,t click the links? most of the adds advertise stuff I can,t get in my country rendering them useless.

also add blockers are fine AS LONG AS YOU SWITCH THE OFF AT THE ESCAPIST. the main reason people use them is to block youtube (which admit it has adds up the behind)

also how would a site make money if nobody where to click the links? I never got how that works.
 

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henritje said:
but what if I don,t click the links? most of the adds advertise stuff I can,t get in my country rendering them useless.

also add blockers are fine AS LONG AS YOU SWITCH THE OFF AT THE ESCAPIST. the main reason people use them is to block youtube (which admit it has adds up the behind)

also how would a site make money if nobody where to click the links? I never got how that works.
I was referring to the video ads before, you know, a video, not banners. Never really said that, should have, probably... But whatever, front page changed so it makes more sense.

JezebelinHell said:
Aprilgold said:
I don't have an issue with creepy imagery, but when it repeats, its just.... Yeah, I'm sure your argument was worth it... Yeah.... It just keeps repeating..
Anyone interested in borrowing Alice for a bit can email me. I am quite proud of her, enjoyed the game too.

Also, exaggerating is not FACT. That is the whole problem with making shit up. You should probably research before you get on a rant like this. But hey, I already said that and you didn't read it either. Good job.
I read it now, because you shortened it. Thank you for that. And I never WAS trying to sell if off as fact, its easier to show loss to people when its almost a tall tale, if you try and explain how ads are a X percent of a penny per view [click, or video ads, like I was talking about, but never actually mention because I'm not exactly the best at prioritizing my words, exactly.] and then how that adds up to a Y revenue, then balancing Z costs and then you get X revenue for the ad. Its more complicated, and I myself am not someone suitable to exactly teach that to someone. Ever wonder why theater actors make every emotion big, because its easier to portray that way. If you think that exaggerations are bad, tell that to some theater actors, I can guarantee most may laugh, because its just easier to portray when something is mythical big.
 

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StBishop said:
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Guilt tripping. For great justice.
Not guilt tripping. Some people may not have thought of that.

It's a prefectly reasonable request. I choose to put up with the ads (and sometimes I just click the random banner ads) because I feel like supporting the site.

It doesn't hurt you to watch a 10 second ad. Or crtl+click a couple of banner ads.
Yes it does.

I disagree heavily with the forced advertising we're getting these days. Since Youtube started, it seems everywhere with videos on the internet wants to do them.

One of the things the internet has always had is on demand service, and getting interupted every fucking video by the same fucking advert over and over again is a piss take. Why should I be made to watch the same 10-30 second clip between videos? If they were ALWAYS different, I could understand, but half the time I'm hearing the same shitty jingle designed by committee to get me attracted to a product, and the sheer obnoxious nature of them (Especially considering the Escapist has this strange thing of making videos popout occasionally so I can't use the rest of the page while watching the video, and get a large, brightly coloured border around my video that is very distracting from the video content) makes me want to buy the product LESS.

I can understand a few banner ads, I'm used to those. What I'm not used to is having content blocked for the sake of force feeding me some marketting nonsense I simply don't give a shit about. Seems strange that a news site that constantly publicises games would even need to add more game related adverts to get me to buy a game? That makes no fucking sense to me. I get it, the site needs money, but I just hate having videos interrupted constantly. And before you say it's like adverts on TV, no it's not because TV interrupts me once every fifteen minutes (so realistically every 12-13 minutes of show time), where as otherwise I'd be sitting through adverts every four or five minutes if I didn't adblock sites.

EDIT: An addition, my computer isn't exactly brilliant, and I have trouble loading websites that overuse moving adverts. There's an awful lot of flash in ads these days, and my computer can't properly handle several forum pages, a video page, a few articles and all my other tabs at once when every single one of them feels the need to fill it with animated, sound giving adverts. There was one REALLY annoying one that involved shooting a fly. Guess what it did? It made a buzzing noise, like an annoying fly. Luckily it doesn't seem to be here anymore...
 

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I'm pubclub, but even if I wasn't, I'd block ads.

Why? To be blunt, it can be quite crap here sometimes, I come here for the content and I want the best possible experience for me, hence why I got PubClub (HTML5 + Larger size is great) and having some weirdass add that not only doesn't even apply to where I live (Australia, yet I get ads for some british thing?) but also wastes limited bandwidth (We have bandwidth caps here) and can potentially be a security threat. (Ad company gets compromised, bam, anything using the ads now gets viruses)
 

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Maybe the escapist should just hire the number of people their revenue supports rather than adding all these new shows that they can't support. Just a thought.
 

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Aprilgold said:
JezebelinHell said:
Aprilgold said:
Ok, sorry, your avatar creeped me out too much to read on, I'm sure it was interesting and filled with great points, this account was a recent one, old E-mail got hacked, damn that, but whatever, sure it was full of great points though.
Well yours is boring so I am not reading your crusading posts anymore. Nice thing is I won't miss anything that could be pertinent to the topic. Wow, I feel so mature. I shall have to be affected by images more in the future.
I don't have an issue with creepy imagery, but when it repeats, its just.... Yeah, I'm sure your argument was worth it... Yeah.... It just keeps repeating..
You know, I hear if you have an ad blocker, you can also use it to filter stuff like that. Heh.
 

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Maybe the escapist should just hire the number of people their revenue supports rather than adding all these new shows that they can't support. Just a thought.
I was going to write a huge argument about this, but you basically summed it up. The consumers of a FREE website should not be held responsible for a company not being able to pay it's employees.
 

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Nalgas D. Lemur said:
Aprilgold said:
JezebelinHell said:
Aprilgold said:
Ok, sorry, your avatar creeped me out too much to read on, I'm sure it was interesting and filled with great points, this account was a recent one, old E-mail got hacked, damn that, but whatever, sure it was full of great points though.
Well yours is boring so I am not reading your crusading posts anymore. Nice thing is I won't miss anything that could be pertinent to the topic. Wow, I feel so mature. I shall have to be affected by images more in the future.
I don't have an issue with creepy imagery, but when it repeats, its just.... Yeah, I'm sure your argument was worth it... Yeah.... It just keeps repeating..
You know, I hear if you have an ad blocker, you can also use it to filter stuff like that. Heh.
Or I could go into setting and turn off the picture thingies that identify people, but then I wouldn't have the fun pleasure of seeing random stuff and pictures through those icons.


Spot1990 said:
Ok, use ad blocker, don't use it, whatever. What's really confusing me is how angry people are getting at the very thought of supporting content they enjoy and in the case of ZP have enjoyed for years. It confirms everything I already knew, gamers are entitled little shits who think everything should be handed to them for free.

Well, I can't argue that, not much more then that. I personally blame solar radiation, which explains why I wasn't hit by it at all.

SeanTheOriginal said:
If the Escapist is having trouble paying it's workers, THEN IT AIN'T MY FUCKING PROBLEM!
But your using the website, it will be your problem if it shuts down, won't it, and no one wants the Escapist to shut down in the slightest.
 

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When did the Escapist become a charity case?

Fuck this stupid idea. How about I turn it off and in return we get new mods with new forum/banning rules and some better content.

They make enough.
 

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Yes it does.

I disagree heavily with the forced advertising we're getting these days. Since Youtube started, it seems everywhere with videos on the internet wants to do them.

One of the things the internet has always had is on demand service, and getting interupted every fucking video by the same fucking advert over and over again is a piss take. Why should I be made to watch the same 10-30 second clip between videos? If they were ALWAYS different, I could understand, but half the time I'm hearing the same shitty jingle designed by committee to get me attracted to a product, and the sheer obnoxious nature of them (Especially considering the Escapist has this strange thing of making videos popout occasionally so I can't use the rest of the page while watching the video, and get a large, brightly coloured border around my video that is very distracting from the video content) makes me want to buy the product LESS.

I can understand a few banner ads, I'm used to those. What I'm not used to is having content blocked for the sake of force feeding me some marketting nonsense I simply don't give a shit about. Seems strange that a news site that constantly publicises games would even need to add more game related adverts to get me to buy a game? That makes no fucking sense to me. I get it, the site needs money, but I just hate having videos interrupted constantly. And before you say it's like adverts on TV, no it's not because TV interrupts me once every fifteen minutes (so realistically every 12-13 minutes of show time), where as otherwise I'd be sitting through adverts every four or five minutes if I didn't adblock sites.
This site isn't the one trying to sell you the game, it is the company that pays a small bit every time their ad is shown, that wants to sell you the game.

I don't understand how people are ignoring the common sense here. The Escapist and other internet sites don't have the money to just stay running all the time, they have to sell ad space. They get money from putting up the ad, a small bit every time it is shown, and a small bit if it is clicked.

You are taking your internet entertainment for granted, they don't make this stuff just to please you, they do it so they can make a living, or to supplement their incomes because the main job doesn't pay enough.

I find it very hypocritical, people whine and moan that they have to deal with or pay for a certain service and think they shouldn't have to help out or be a part or pay, but if they were in the same boat, they would expect to get their due compensation.
 

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I wasn't aware people actually clicked ads... I thought businesses paid for ads to be there, not paid per click. I use opera anyway, so it's not like I have adblock.

I only watch ZP, because everything else on the site is garbage, so I probably don't generate much revenue anyway.
 

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Ubermetalhed said:
When did the Escapist become a charity case?

Fuck this stupid idea. How about I turn it off and in return we get new mods with new forum/banning rules and some better content.

They make enough.
Do you use ad blocker? DO ya?
 
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Have you ever noticed that the websites which are most successful are the ones where the ads are benign and don't get in the way of content?
 

Sonic Doctor

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Spot1990 said:
Ok, use ad blocker, don't use it, whatever. What's really confusing me is how angry people are getting at the very thought of supporting content they enjoy and in the case of ZP have enjoyed for years. It confirms everything I already knew, gamers are entitled little shits who think everything should be handed to them for free.
You hit the nail on the head.

Ubermetalhed said:
When did the Escapist become a charity case?

Fuck this stupid idea. How about I turn it off and in return we get new mods with new forum/banning rules and some better content.

They make enough.
They make enough what? Money? If the Escapist was making enough money, it would be able to pay all the people that say they haven't been paid.

Besides what is wrong with the rules? People that are polite and civil and don't discuss inappropriate topics, don't see Mod wrath. It keeps the place from becoming a troll nightmare like the rest of the unchecked internet is.