Plot... wormholes?

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grimsprice

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Ok, (pretty much all of my threads start off with that word).... *clears throat*.

Ok, so we've all heard of plot holes. When the writer forgets something so obviously plot crushing its almost embarrassing to enjoy said plot.

But how often do we see plot... wormholes? Those moments when the very characters do something, or say something that destroys the plot entirely. For example...

You remember when the wise old Obi-wan told luke to go to the degobah system? Right? "there you will find the jedi master who instructed me.".....

OH.... You mean this guy!

No?...? Well then did you hit your head old man? I know alzheimers is bad... but come on...

And how about in the asteroid movie Armageddon? Remember when the pilot opened the safe, took out the colt 45, and threatened everyone. Remember this line...

"Why do you have a gun... in space?" all surprised and shit.... when five minutes ago he was blasting the asteroid with A MINIGUN.


So what are the most egregious plot breakdowns that you can think of?
 

MrDarkling

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I've only just realised these 3:

The only thing i've ever noticed in star wars is when a stormtrooper smacks his head against a blast door in the control of the death star xD
 

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SadisticDarkling said:
I've only just realised these 3:

The only thing i've ever noticed in star wars is when a stormtrooper smacks his head against a blast door in the control of the death star xD
Wait, when?
 

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Modern Warfare 2 had some pretty horrible plot holes. But it's a video game so maybe I'm being too picky.
 

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I cant remember any specific lines, but in Knowing when they reveled that the last two 3's in the sequence were actually backwards E's because the little girl 'liked to write backwards sometimes' or some sh*t. That was the finishing blow to any hope of that movie being good. It's like the writers forgot how they were gonna finish the movie after they finished making the conflict.
 

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grimsprice said:
SadisticDarkling said:
I've only just realised these 3:

The only thing i've ever noticed in star wars is when a stormtrooper smacks his head against a blast door in the control of the death star xD
Wait, when?
Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBQaLuqwtl8
 

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SadisticDarkling said:
grimsprice said:
SadisticDarkling said:
I've only just realised these 3:

The only thing i've ever noticed in star wars is when a stormtrooper smacks his head against a blast door in the control of the death star xD
Wait, when?
Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBQaLuqwtl8
BWAAAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAAAAAHAHAAAA. I can't believe i missed that the first... 42 times i watched that movie. lol.
 

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One scene in Tales of Symphonia clearly establishes that the writers did not give a shit about the plot anymore. One character pulls a Hadouken out of his ass to bust you out of prison, despite him never doing this at any other point in the game. And his flimsy justification for only doing this now does not hold up when you examine previous parts of the story. The writers pulled something right out of their ass, and when the writers are to lazy to even try to cover up the obvious plot wormhole you know the story is fucked. It was that moment in particular that caused me to think back to all the other plot points in the game and realize how fucking stupid they were.
 

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SadisticDarkling said:
I've only just realised these 3:

The only thing i've ever noticed in star wars is when a stormtrooper smacks his head against a blast door in the control of the death star xD
Thank god I wasn't the only one to notice that. After watching it through one time I laughed a good 10 minutes.
 

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slutmonkey8 said:
grimsprice said:
Ok, (pretty much all of my threads start off with that word).... *clears throat*.

Ok, so we've all heard of plot holes. When the writer forgets something so obviously plot crushing its almost embarrassing to enjoy said plot.

But how often do we see plot... wormholes? Those moments when the very characters do something, or say something that destroys the plot entirely. For example...

You remember when the wise old Obi-wan told luke to go to the degobah system? Right? "there you will find the jedi master who instructed me."....
something i noticed when watching 'a new hope' is the lightsabre. there's one that was on tatooine which according to obi wan was left there by luke's father. as far as i saw that was not in the prequel series at all. please correct me if i'm wrong
No that was the one he picked up on the Mustafar system (volcano world in episode 3) after Obi-wan defeated Anakin. You see him pick it and walk away from Anakin while he burns. He told luke it belonged to his father, and that he wanted him to have it when he was old enough. Which is sort of the truth from a "certain point of view", which is something he explained to luke in the later movies.
 

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Episode III- Obi-wan "Only a Sith deals in absolutes"

Episode V- Yoda "Do or do not. There is no try"

I'd have to say that that's an absolute statement. Therefore, Yoda is a Sith lord.
 

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slutmonkey8 said:
grimsprice said:
Ok, (pretty much all of my threads start off with that word).... *clears throat*.

Ok, so we've all heard of plot holes. When the writer forgets something so obviously plot crushing its almost embarrassing to enjoy said plot.

But how often do we see plot... wormholes? Those moments when the very characters do something, or say something that destroys the plot entirely. For example...

You remember when the wise old Obi-wan told luke to go to the degobah system? Right? "there you will find the jedi master who instructed me."....
something i noticed when watching 'a new hope' is the lightsabre. there's one that was on tatooine which according to obi wan was left there by luke's father. as far as i saw that was not in the prequel series at all. please correct me if i'm wrong
Obi-Wan took it with him when he left Mustafar after defeating Anakin.
 

Altorin

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slutmonkey8 said:
something i noticed when watching 'a new hope' is the lightsabre. there's one that was on tatooine which according to obi wan was left there by luke's father. as far as i saw that was not in the prequel series at all. please correct me if i'm wrong
that one actually was covered - the last thing Obi-wan did before he left Vader to die was take his lightsaber.
 

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I remember viewing the movie Gremlins. The movie was a hoot and a howl and contained a barrage of nonstop humor and violent mayhem goodness. THEN came one scene. THIS scene was something that left an imprint on my very soul and crushed my belief in God. It was the scene in which spicy Cheetos hot Phoebe Cates describes how she found out Santa wasn't real whem she found her father's corpse in a chimney. That made me sad. Depressed, even.

I know that didn't leave a plot...wormhole,(or as I'd call it,"What the hell were the writers thinking, I'll write a fooking better story!") but that scene definately destroyed the movie for me.
 

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DuplicateValue said:
YoUnG205 said:
In Star wars doesn't he mean Yoda?
Yeah, but it was Qui-gon(sp?) who actually trained him.
I'm a Star Wars geek, so while Qui-gon was Obi-wan's master, it is still true that Yoda trained him, since Yoda trains all the younglings in the entire Jedi Temple at some point.
 

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Tagball said:
I remember viewing the movie Gremlins. The movie was a hoot and a howl and contained a barrage of nonstop humor and violent mayhem goodness. THEN came one scene. THIS scene was something that left an imprint on my very soul and crushed my belief in God. It was the scene in which spicy Cheetos hot Phoebe Cates describes how she found out Santa wasn't real whem she found her father's corpse in a chimney. That made me sad. Depressed, even.

I know that didn't leave a plot...wormhole,(or as I'd call it,"What the hell were the writers thinking, I'll write a fooking better story!") but that scene definately destroyed the movie for me.
everyone who watched the movie has the same reaction.

It was needlessly horrific.