Pokemon Black/White 2 Announced!

[soren7550]

http://www.gamesradar.com/pokemon-black-and-white-version-2-announced-ds-out-june-japan/

Fat skinny is the following:
- Set for release in Japan in June
- First true sequel in the Pokemon series
- For the DS (but can be played on the 3DS)
- Above image is Kyurem's new forms, named Black Kyurem and White Kyurem

Thoughts? I can honestly say that I didn't see this coming, and that I await further news on it.

My reactions:
-So, it'll be here around November?
-Mysterydungeon2, PkmnColuseum2, PkmnPinball2 ... Anyways, I think they're running out of stuff to name them now.
-It'll probably get a 3ds release with a few updates.
-Looking at the picture, rather the ice-types are making a comeback or somethings corrupting them again.

That's being very optimistic, and I/they meant true sequel in the main series.

And if/when the 3DS gets a true Pokemon game, it'll be a new one in the main series.

 

[Zetsubou-Sama]

My opinion on this is directly tied to how much of a sequel this actually is.

I'd like to believe you actually get to start with your B/W team or something of that sort develop the originak story, but that kills part of the trading system from the series as well as making it weird to make a full fame for the 60-100 pokemon levels, plus the fact that Unova isn't really that big or interesting of a region to warrant a full game.

I read somewhere about the possibility of going to Hoehn via the Airport but that just seems like a shot in the dark, since after Silver/Gold we really didn't get a two region game. What I would really like to see is more challenging end-game content that wasn't just a one.off match or something of the sort, most fun from playing pokemon are using your late-game teams, but so far, other than fighting the rigged battle towers and all that jazz I've felt that the games were weak in that aspect.


This aside, the Legendary alt formes are ugly imo, but this batch also has a bit of weird design choices mixed with some really good design of pokemons.

 

[Aris Khandr]

Reposting this from Kotaku-

There's no reason you should comment on this article if one of the following apply to you;

1. You're asking if there are still Pokemon games being made after Red and Blue.
2. You want these games 3DS exclusive.
3. You're tired of the Pokemon formula, "8 gyms, elite 4, catch em all".
4. You want a new Pokemon game on a console or some type of MMO game.
5. You have nothing to say that will spark a discussion and just want to upload your pokemon related picture.
6. You think they're milking the series.
7. You want to point out there are no new colors in the title thus its somehow means Game Freak is running out of ideas.
8. You're butthurt even though you haven't played a Pokemon game since 1996.
9. You're going to comment all the the old ones are clearly best.

The only one that applies to me is 4. And while that is true, I would like a Pokemon MMO, that doesn't diminish my interest in Black/White 2. It's okay to want things, and doesn't really make your opinion invalid.

 

[Something Amyss]

Reposting this from Kotaku-

There's no reason you should comment on this article if one of the following apply to you;

1. You're asking if there are still Pokemon games being made after Red and Blue.
2. You want these games 3DS exclusive.
3. You're tired of the Pokemon formula, "8 gyms, elite 4, catch em all".
4. You want a new Pokemon game on a console or some type of MMO game.
5. You have nothing to say that will spark a discussion and just want to upload your pokemon related picture.
6. You think they're milking the series.
7. You want to point out there are no new colors in the title thus its somehow means Game Freak is running out of ideas.
8. You're butthurt even though you haven't played a Pokemon game since 1996.
9. You're going to comment all the the old ones are clearly best.

XD

Personally, I'm excited. I've been waiting for "Grey," assuming that was the progression. This is actually kind of better.

Plus, I didn't want it to be for the 3DS, since I don't have one yet.

The Kyurem forms look dumb, though. Seriously, the only thing I wanted to complain about. And not that big. I didn't really use Resh and Zek, anyway.

 

[Eri]

You know what I think would be cool? If they revamped fighting and made the battle screen like Tekken, with every move being assigned to a face button, with L/R being jump or dodge.

Because honestly? It's getting stale.

Dear god they actually ran out of colors. Congratulations, nintendo, in 4 year's time, you'll have been squeezing pokemon dry for about twenty years while never changing the formula of progrression (8 gyms, elite 4, retarded 'team x' trying to do something eeeeevil) or battle mechanics.
Cannot say I approve.

Damnit Nintendo, Damnit Gamefreak! This better be the last one. If you make any more pokemon there'll be way too many and then no new games. After this they better go MMO.

Lets hope they do something different apart from beat the gyms and then the elite 4. Funny to think people are bitching about a dlc download on Mass Effect 3 when every Pokemon game is the same with minor differences. Maybe as its a sequel they will have a proper story. But Pokemon is addictive though, i play it with my younger brother. hee hee.

I stopped caring about new Pokemon games looooooong ago. As far as I'm concerned, there are only 251 Pokemon.

Lol

Reposting this from Kotaku-

There's no reason you should comment on this article if one of the following apply to you;

1. You're asking if there are still Pokemon games being made after Red and Blue.
2. You want these games 3DS exclusive.
3. You're tired of the Pokemon formula, "8 gyms, elite 4, catch em all".
4. You want a new Pokemon game on a console or some type of MMO game.
5. You have nothing to say that will spark a discussion and just want to upload your pokemon related picture.
6. You think they're milking the series.
7. You want to point out there are no new colors in the title thus its somehow means Game Freak is running out of ideas.
8. You're butthurt even though you haven't played a Pokemon game since 1996.
9. You're going to comment all the the old ones are clearly best.

 

[Sun Flash]

Lol

Reposting this from Kotaku-

There's no reason you should comment on this article if one of the following apply to you;

1. You're asking if there are still Pokemon games being made after Red and Blue.
2. You want these games 3DS exclusive.
3. You're tired of the Pokemon formula, "8 gyms, elite 4, catch em all".
4. You want a new Pokemon game on a console or some type of MMO game.
5. You have nothing to say that will spark a discussion and just want to upload your pokemon related picture.
6. You think they're milking the series.
7. You want to point out there are no new colors in the title thus its somehow means Game Freak is running out of ideas.
8. You're butthurt even though you haven't played a Pokemon game since 1996.
9. You're going to comment all the the old ones are clearly best.

This isn't Kotaku. It's a forum and I am allowed to express my opinion. I like the series and mentioned something I'd like to see. I don't see the problem here.

 

[Eri]

Lol

Reposting this from Kotaku-

There's no reason you should comment on this article if one of the following apply to you;

1. You're asking if there are still Pokemon games being made after Red and Blue.
2. You want these games 3DS exclusive.
3. You're tired of the Pokemon formula, "8 gyms, elite 4, catch em all".
4. You want a new Pokemon game on a console or some type of MMO game.
5. You have nothing to say that will spark a discussion and just want to upload your pokemon related picture.
6. You think they're milking the series.
7. You want to point out there are no new colors in the title thus its somehow means Game Freak is running out of ideas.
8. You're butthurt even though you haven't played a Pokemon game since 1996.
9. You're going to comment all the the old ones are clearly best.

This isn't Kotaku. It's a forum and I am allowed to express my opinion. I like the series and mentioned something I'd like to see. I don't see the problem here.

The problem is anytime a pokemon thread for the games comes around, many MANY people ignore the topic and just use the thread as a place to rant on one of those 9 things and how unhappy they are with the series. And they've all been said so much, that insanely accurate list emerged. (This last sentence not necessarily directed at you)

We get it, you're SICK of pokemon games, we know why, you don't need to go off on a fun-downing tangent to tell us why it's terrible now.

 

[LilithSlave]

They really did run out of colours!

Oh well, buying it anyway! To be honest, black and white definitely needed to be for the 3DS in the first place.

Gamefreak, can I has more Iris plz?

 

[Andothul]

Everything about Black and White was great except for the POKEMON.

Seriously B&W have some of the stupidest looking Pokemon by far in the series. They look like they were created by a 10 year old girl and others look like the devs just gave up.

Wtb less cutesy more awesome looking Pokemon in the sequel.

 

[Woodsey]

snip

That is the stupidest thing I've seen this week. It'd have been quicker to write, "don't say anything bad about it or else we'll get upset."

Criticism doesn't work by going, "well you've said it loads now, so never mention it again even though you still think it's a problem".

 

[Sun Flash]

The problem is anytime a pokemon thread for the games comes around, many MANY people ignore the topic and just use the thread as a place to rant on one of those 9 things and how unhappy they are with the series. And they've all been said so much, that insanely accurate list emerged. (This last sentence not necessarily directed at you)

We get it, you're SICK of pokemon games, we know why, you don't need to go off on a fun-downing tangent to tell us why it's terrible now.

Fair enough. I kind of share some of your sentiments and I probably should have made my first post more clear. Egg on my face.

I'm not sick of pokémon. I like it and I like seeing it improve and grow. Just because I didn't complete the last two games didn't mean they weren't fun and I liked most of the features added to it. But Pokémon is 16 years old, to the day (ish). I just want to see some risk taking, try something new.

I do it because in a tiny part at the back of my brain, I like to think that, even if there is a gazillion in one chance someone with any poképower is reading this, they'll go "Hey, that gives me an idea, maybe we should switch it up a bit!" or whatever the japanese equivalent is.

Sorry if I come off as a negative nancy, I only do it because I love you pokémon.

 

[EHKOS]

...You're joking. I love pokemon but I have no idea what this will entail and I feel the picture is blatantly retarded. It looks like a bad photoshop.

 

[Gatx]

Not being Pokemon: Gray is very suprising. We all saw them focusing on Kyurem but this is a bit from left field. Honestly I like it, I liked Black and White's Story and would love to see Ghetsis try to make a comeback.

I'm just going to wander how they are going to ddo it? Are you going to be a new kid setting out on a journey or play the same character from Black and White?

I think this actually IS the third game? But because of the way the plot works, you can't have a Pokemon Gray. Since the Gen III typically the third game included the third legendary into the story and let you catch the original exclusive cover legendaries. In Black in White though, N has to have one, and you have to the have the other, that's just how it was within the lore so unless you reworked that significantly you couldn't have a third game.

 

[Lunar Templar]

this is the only part that matters to me, o.o whats with the new forms?

 

[Beryl77]

Very surprising but I'm interested to see how a Pokemon sequel will be like. A continuiton of the story would at least be nice for a change.
There are speculations that we'll be able to go to Hoenn which would be awesome. Anyway, I've gotten more excited about this than I thought. I was sure that I probably wouldn't be buying Pokemon "grey" unless it has some really new and nice features. Now, I'll definitely buy it just to see what they'll do with it.

 

[Zepherus14]

One thing I've always wanted to see in a Pokemon game is when you beat it you have the option to restart the game, but using one of your pokemon that you currently have as your starter, and having the nationaldex already.

It was easier in Black and White because you could trade eggs, but still, it's something I would love to see.

As for PB2 and PW2, hopefully it continues the story in some way and isn't another '3rd' game version...

 

[Thelvan]

Saw this earlier. Nice to see some progression going on. Does this mean that there will be some feature that transfers saves? Will this take place a few years later? or will there be some event that forces (enter trainer's name here) to lose their pokemon?

Also heard some speculation that N and Ghetis ran away to Hoenn, thus implying that the player gets to visit Hoenn Gold/Silver Style and if that is the case...

[spoiler ]

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[Fiz_The_Toaster]

I really really didn't see this coming.

I honestly thought the next one would be Pokemon Gray...

Me too.

But then again, the story from Black and White was pretty open ended since Ghetsis is nowhere to be found and N is....somewhere.

 

[ZexionSephiroth]

I've played every generation of pokemon thus far. It's gotten to the point I can describe generational trends, and I was hoping that gen 6 would be a chance to test those theories out.

...Black 2 and White 2 makes this all the more unpredictable until it actualy comes out. Will it be equivilent to gen 6 with a whole new cast of pokemon? Is it just Grey by another name? I don't know, my predictions only work if the first one is true.

If this sequel is the equivelent of gen 6, then here's the predictions:

My generational model states that even numbered generations have eviler bad guys. So While Black, white 1 focused on "N"; Black, White 2 will focus on Ghetisis.

The Model also states New Eeveelutions are also added on even numbered generations. I can't predict which ones, however it would fit pretty well if they were ghost and steel.

The most interesting part of the model is that Even numbered generations have a higher number of likeable pokemon; however those likeable pokemon aren't going to be quite as popular as their few likable counterparts in Odd numbered generations. So expect more Wolves, cats, dogs, cute things, and a boatload of creatures that are more personable than Gen 5's spiders, gears, spiky seeds, flying pottery, snow-flakes and ice-cream.

...And again This all hangs in the balance due to the uncertainty of wether this is equivilent to a new generation or not. This will be interesting to see how it develops...

By the way, did Emerald or platinum ever get this kind effort to publisise it this much? I don't think so, so hopefully it's Equivilent to a new gen. But Remember... I MAY BE WRONG!

 

[370999]

Not being Pokemon: Gray is very suprising. We all saw them focusing on Kyurem but this is a bit from left field. Honestly I like it, I liked Black and White's Story and would love to see Ghetsis try to make a comeback.

I'm just going to wander how they are going to ddo it? Are you going to be a new kid setting out on a journey or play the same character from Black and White?

I think this actually IS the third game? But because of the way the plot works, you can't have a Pokemon Gray. Since the Gen III typically the third game included the third legendary into the story and let you catch the original exclusive cover legendaries. In Black in White though, N has to have one, and you have to the have the other, that's just how it was within the lore so unless you reworked that significantly you couldn't have a third game.

You know I completely forget about that side of things. Hmm interesting. anyone think this new Kyurem is going to eb a fusion of your legendary plus your kyurem, or soemthing similar?