I don't care much for Pokemon but I came on here to tell you the pun you missed out on. I know that Pokemon white is a game and why sounds like white so you kinda missed a trick there pal.
Pokemon Why?
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"Simple" doesn't mean "shallow".The_Echo said:
The mechanics of Pokemon are basically as deep as the player wants them to be. To belabor with a metaphor here, just because the pool is twenty feet at the deep end doesn't mean that everyone has to swim over there, and people less comfortable in their swimming skill will be more likely to stick around the five foot area. But everyone can jump into the pool and have fun regardless of their swimming ability, because the barrier for entry is practically nil.
Sounds like you just grew out of it, that's fine.
A lot of people didn't, and a lot of people won't cause they are still fun games.
A lot of people didn't, and a lot of people won't cause they are still fun games.
Looking at other replies, it looks like any point you were trying to make got shot down pretty easily. And even though you were trying to make the thread not sound like one of those "Why does everyone like [game] when I don't", it totally did.
You know, the one that was just released. Yeah...
"Pokemon Why" sounds like Pokemon Y.Tom_green_day said:
You know, the one that was just released. Yeah...
It appeals to the human desire to hoard & to obsessive compulsive people & it simultaneously appeals to animal lovers & hunters. I am 3 of these things, so I play it.
You know you have OCD if your sort your Mons by type then gender then color, & each & every one of them has to be the same level, preferably an even number.
You know you have OCD if your sort your Mons by type then gender then color, & each & every one of them has to be the same level, preferably an even number.
Pokemon for me will always hold something close in my heart not just for the bliss of escaping the mundane day to day life of school but because it helped me on a personal level I had very bad ADHD as a child and couldn't read my mom pretty much said if I want to know whats going on my game I need to learn to read it myself and stop making her do it all.
Pokemon pushed me with that unlike any game before and I learned to read from that. Yea its kinda silly but its what happened after that iv grown to be a very good reader.
I love pokemon and will continue to support the games because they helped me in life and are some of the most fun I ever had.
Pokemon pushed me with that unlike any game before and I learned to read from that. Yea its kinda silly but its what happened after that iv grown to be a very good reader.
I love pokemon and will continue to support the games because they helped me in life and are some of the most fun I ever had.
I was in my early 20s when Red and Blue came out. It was a no brainer for me. I love JRPgs and it was love at first sight. If I can get around to buying a 3ds, then I will most certainly buy the newest version. I'd love to get into the competitive side of battling. It has that same appeal that fighting games have. I being 36 and all; I have no problem telling anyone that I LOVE pokemon. If everyone can love 1st person shooters, then I can love pokemon.
As a fighting game fan (re: someone who can't escape the term 'tier list'), Pokemon's competitive scene is quite different, in that the tiers are actually tiers; you choose one to play and build your team for, instead of the game being 5-8 excellently tooled characters with a side cast of +20 to stomp all over (<3 you UMvC3!) Granted, most will want to play the top tiers (OU or Ubers), but I feel each tier has it's own quirks and guidelines to work with.
But beyond that, few to no games have built both a fervent cooperative and competitive multi-player as well as Pokemon has, and so adherent to the two main rules of Pokemon to boot:
I also think that the design philosophy is astoundingly grounded; for so much area to cover, people to talk to, or meta people draw from the game. You can run around wherever and do whatever like an open-world game, but you always have 2 objectives in the game:
But beyond that, few to no games have built both a fervent cooperative and competitive multi-player as well as Pokemon has, and so adherent to the two main rules of Pokemon to boot:
It's boiled over (I think from fans) positively into themes of friendship and growth, and negatively into themes of ownership and more, but the games didn't have to do this, and it's refreshing to see the more recent stories try to tackle them.
I also think that the design philosophy is astoundingly grounded; for so much area to cover, people to talk to, or meta people draw from the game. You can run around wherever and do whatever like an open-world game, but you always have 2 objectives in the game:
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Sometimes simplicity makes good gameplay. You spend more time enjoying the game than working at it and strategizing all the time. Plus it was one of those perfectly designed games for a small/mobile device. I don't understand the actual fandom though, since the setting is... too childish for me to care a whole lot about any specific Pokemon or any of the characters.
You sir are my hero.Hero of Lime said:Pokemon Why? Pokemon...
How was this joke not made by now? Seriously!
On topic I don't really get threads like this? Like, if you don't like something cool, why would you try and force yourself to like it? It's like going "I don't like mexican food and don't really understand why so many people do. Try and convince my taste buds they're wrong!"
If I don't like mexican food I just don't eat it. That doesn't mean I'll never try it on occasion just to see if my tastes have changed or if this meal might be different from some of the others, but on the whole I am happy just not having it. The same is true for games. I don't like FPS games. Occasionally I will try one of my dad's games to see if my tastes have changed, find I don't like them, shrug and play something else. I've never felt the need to create a thread asking people to sell me on Call of Duty or Halo.
If you want to see if you like the newest installment better than the old ones see if you can borrow one from a friend. I would recommend getting a 3ds anyway just because it's a good machine with a lot of great games. I got mine to play pokemon awhile back and surprised myself with just how much use I was getting on the thing. I'm not normally a big handheld person.
I'm in the same camp, finished Pearl, family got me Diamond the next year. Started it, never finished it, got up to like the first town and then I put it down and never picked it back up again. This game (X and Y are practically the same so I'm just going to refer to them as a singular entity) sits in the same camp of over hyped dross as GTAV, people hype the crap out of it then I see game-play footage and I'm left underwhelmed.
Pokemon was one of those series in my youth that I loved, but along with every other Nintendo property has left me jaded and embittered. Especially Pokemon, I remember back in the day when the tag line was 'Gotta Catch Em All' but now they only want you to find out about the Mega Digivultion bollocks because they know YOU CAN'T CATCH EM ALL. Stupid Event Pokemon bullshit, players should be rewarded for playing the game, not going to a PR event.
I think GTA asking for $66 dollars is asking too much, and people are saying I should get a new 3DS as well, screw that. I'll buy this when I can get it all for a total of $100 or less.
The more I get hyped up to buy it the voice of reason chips in and tells me that'd be a stupid idea. Just don't have the patience and disposable income for a tired concept I've played (almost literally) 100 times before.
Pokemon was one of those series in my youth that I loved, but along with every other Nintendo property has left me jaded and embittered. Especially Pokemon, I remember back in the day when the tag line was 'Gotta Catch Em All' but now they only want you to find out about the Mega Digivultion bollocks because they know YOU CAN'T CATCH EM ALL. Stupid Event Pokemon bullshit, players should be rewarded for playing the game, not going to a PR event.
I think GTA asking for $66 dollars is asking too much, and people are saying I should get a new 3DS as well, screw that. I'll buy this when I can get it all for a total of $100 or less.
The more I get hyped up to buy it the voice of reason chips in and tells me that'd be a stupid idea. Just don't have the patience and disposable income for a tired concept I've played (almost literally) 100 times before.
Its one of the few very balanced games of its genre, pvp wise.
Its stories are generally interesting and the new Pokemon are always fun to discover.
Also all the games like it that are 'deeper' tend to be overly complicated and think being hard to understand is a good enough substitution for fun.
Its stories are generally interesting and the new Pokemon are always fun to discover.
Also all the games like it that are 'deeper' tend to be overly complicated and think being hard to understand is a good enough substitution for fun.
Indeed, and I think that's a great thing, for a game without difficulty settings, it's one of the most inclusive games on the planet; it caters to all playstyles and skill levels without anyone feeling left out in the cold, you can do everything in the game, with no barrier to entry. Well 'cept the battle subway, but that thing is loaded with evasion spamming bullshit.shrekfan246 said:
I was just saying that there's loads more to the game than appears so at face value, as the guy was asking about the game, and seemed to be under the impression that it was simplistic and that other games do what pokemon does better(which is fair enough, if you've never decided to look in the proverbial rabbit hole that is pokemon fansites, you're unlikely to ever know about that stuff, I didn't know about any of it until 4th gen). Which isn't the case, in terms of pure RPGs it's quite literally one of the best. Like you you said, everyone can have fun regardless of where they are in the swimming pool, and can choose where they want to be in it.
Nostalgia. A yearning for simpler times. That's it. I think it's misguided, nostalgia can be nice, but I've never been one to dwell on it.
I was going to say something, but then I read the first responce and realises it said everything that needs to be said.
I love pokemon because of nostalgia, I'll admit that. Pokemon is the first game I ever played. Sure I'd played some of my sisters PS1 games like Crash Bandicoot and Tomb Raider, but I didn't play them much and I never got more than a few levels in on account of being like 3 years old at the time. But then I got Pokemon Red, which I put hours into and it is probably the first game I ever beat, and if I didn't experience that then I would probably not even care about the franchise.
But even then purely nostalgia can't be put as the reason for the franchises popularity, since it is still popular with young children growing up today, which it wouldn't have if it wasn't a good game series. The reason I tihnk Pokemon has such massive success with people of all ages is because the game has the depth of a puddle or an ocean depending on how you play the game. I can just catch some random pokemon and play through the easy way, or I can breed a team with specific types, natures and then spend hours IV training them. The use of depth like this makes it a game that appeals to adults who want a competitive team just as much as does to the kid who plays through the game with 6 level 30 pidgeys.
P.S. Simple does not mean easy or bad. Chess is simple to learn, but incredibly difficult to master.
I love pokemon because of nostalgia, I'll admit that. Pokemon is the first game I ever played. Sure I'd played some of my sisters PS1 games like Crash Bandicoot and Tomb Raider, but I didn't play them much and I never got more than a few levels in on account of being like 3 years old at the time. But then I got Pokemon Red, which I put hours into and it is probably the first game I ever beat, and if I didn't experience that then I would probably not even care about the franchise.
But even then purely nostalgia can't be put as the reason for the franchises popularity, since it is still popular with young children growing up today, which it wouldn't have if it wasn't a good game series. The reason I tihnk Pokemon has such massive success with people of all ages is because the game has the depth of a puddle or an ocean depending on how you play the game. I can just catch some random pokemon and play through the easy way, or I can breed a team with specific types, natures and then spend hours IV training them. The use of depth like this makes it a game that appeals to adults who want a competitive team just as much as does to the kid who plays through the game with 6 level 30 pidgeys.
P.S. Simple does not mean easy or bad. Chess is simple to learn, but incredibly difficult to master.