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MidnightCat

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Wheee, I'm so excited for these games! So far I like everything I see, including the legendaries - this is the first time I've liked the featured legendaries since Gold &Silver.

My only problem is that I can't decide which starter to get - the fox and the frog are both so cute! I guess it'll depend on which one my sister wants.
 

Innegativeion

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endtherapture said:
And they're making even more unnessecary Pokemon.
Wait, why the fuck is variety a bad thing?

Would you honestly really be content if there was never a sequel with new pokemon ever again?

Eugh... I just... I will never understand why people complain about new games having new pokemon. I mean, the huge variety of monsters to choose from is huge for the game's mass-market appeal. Not to mention new pokemon sell games. It's unrealistic to expect a new gen not to have new pokemon.
 

Xdeser2

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What this is:

Pokemon

WITH POLYGONS :O

But seriously what the hells the difference...?
 

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Spambot 3000 said:
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Are there actually any other new pokemon apart from the 3 starters and the two legendaries? Because that footage didn't show any other pokemon apart from them at all. Mind you, if they didn't introduce another 100 I'd be mighty pleased with that. I'm just wondering.
They always only show the starters first. But by rule of thumb: New Gen = New critters.

Edit: The footage also shows the new legendaries.
I see, well ... it should be alright I suppose. Can't say the water type starter looks appealing but I still feel optimistic about this one.
Frogbert will crush your team.

You just wait! >: (
What the ... *reads through thread*
Why do so many people like the frog? I just ... NO. Come on guys, where is your taste?!
Subjectively I find the Fox to be the best option.

But I don't pick the best option.

I pick the most unloved and dorky ones.

I non-ironically loved Mudkip.
 

Spambot 3000

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theultimateend said:
Spambot 3000 said:
theultimateend said:
Spambot 3000 said:
TheKasp said:
Spambot 3000 said:
Are there actually any other new pokemon apart from the 3 starters and the two legendaries? Because that footage didn't show any other pokemon apart from them at all. Mind you, if they didn't introduce another 100 I'd be mighty pleased with that. I'm just wondering.
They always only show the starters first. But by rule of thumb: New Gen = New critters.

Edit: The footage also shows the new legendaries.
I see, well ... it should be alright I suppose. Can't say the water type starter looks appealing but I still feel optimistic about this one.
Frogbert will crush your team.

You just wait! >: (
What the ... *reads through thread*
Why do so many people like the frog? I just ... NO. Come on guys, where is your taste?!
Subjectively I find the Fox to be the best option.

But I don't pick the best option.

I pick the most unloved and dorky ones.

I non-ironically loved Mudkip.
Okay, if that's your method for picking starters then that's understandable. However, Mudkip is truly the Chuck Norris of the Pokemon universe.
 

mysecondlife

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Wow it actually looks really good.

I'm glad the Fire Starter is a fox (or something). I normally always choose the Fire Starter but I didn't in the last gen because I don't like pigs... At least I got a grass snake though.

Actually really excited now XD
For a guy with a pokemon for an avatar, I didn't think you'd use the word 'actually' ...twice.
 

Enlong

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On gameplay innovation: honestly, I'm fine with the core gameplay being the same, because every generation, they inroduce new moves, new Abilities, and polish and rebalance he ones that exist.

They also make training viable teams a hell of a lot easier. It was never easier to breed and train up a team than it was in Black and White 2. Get the right nature every time using an Everstone, EV train by feeding your Pokemon cakes and giving them haircuts, and send them to the dojo for about 10 free levels a day.

But what I really like is seeing new attacks, and new Abilities, and seeing how they all interact with the stuff that came before. It's like Magic he Gathering, really. At its core, it has the same gameplay formula it's had since 1990, but there are so many new tricks and powers that interact with each other in new ways that saying it hasn't innovated or expanded is like judging a flowering cherry tree for its roots, because they haven't grown out much this year.

As to the starters, I'mm interested in the fire fox whose name I still can't remember. I'm not worreid that it'll be a retread of Ninetales, because c'mon. There are so many magical foxes in mythology (not just Japanese myth, either) other than the nine-tailed kitsune. maybe it'll resemble the trickser Renard. Or a tube fox.

Looking at the trailer, we see two moves from each starter. I like to imagine this could be a hint towards their ultimae typing. The fox does Flamethrower, and then some move with purple waves. That could either be a weird animation for Growl, or perhaps Confusion or something. The frog does Water Gun, then some quick roughing-up move in close quarters. Possibly Quick Attack? Probably not Fury Swipes, bu maybe even Close Combat. And the hat thing has Solarbeam, and something that could be resonably argued to either be Aerial Ace, or Pursuit.
 

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I'm pretty freaking stoked for this but I have one request.

For fucks sake Gamefreak speed up the fucking pace of the game please. Every goddamn action in Black and White 2 happens so goddamn slowly. It's just so fucking infuriating slow. Because of this I play Pokemon games almost exclusively on emulators so I can speed up the pace. Also get rid of the bloody overly long tutorials. We are not idiots and can figure out the damn game ourselves.
 

Asuka Soryu

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Must have Fennekin! Glad I'm not part of the group of people who play Pokemon to actually 'catch 'em all'.
 

Enlong

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Slow? Bwahahaha!

Play Diamond if you want freaking slow.

With the addition of icons to show the weather instead of informing us every round, as well as flash-up icons for Abilities instead of entire windows, the action's never been faster.

And there's always turning off the animations if you really need it any faster for whatever reason.
 

theultimateend

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Spambot 3000 said:
theultimateend said:
Spambot 3000 said:
theultimateend said:
Spambot 3000 said:
TheKasp said:
Spambot 3000 said:
Are there actually any other new pokemon apart from the 3 starters and the two legendaries? Because that footage didn't show any other pokemon apart from them at all. Mind you, if they didn't introduce another 100 I'd be mighty pleased with that. I'm just wondering.
They always only show the starters first. But by rule of thumb: New Gen = New critters.

Edit: The footage also shows the new legendaries.
I see, well ... it should be alright I suppose. Can't say the water type starter looks appealing but I still feel optimistic about this one.
Frogbert will crush your team.

You just wait! >: (
What the ... *reads through thread*
Why do so many people like the frog? I just ... NO. Come on guys, where is your taste?!
Subjectively I find the Fox to be the best option.

But I don't pick the best option.

I pick the most unloved and dorky ones.

I non-ironically loved Mudkip.
Okay, if that's your method for picking starters then that's understandable. However, Mudkip is truly the Chuck Norris of the Pokemon universe.
I've wondered if people actually don't like bidoof or if its just a meme.

Because his character design is fantastic. Plus he can handle just about any HM so if you are traveling he's a utility pokemon.

And yeah I agree, Mudkip becomes obscenely powerful. Water/Ground is insanity.

"Go Grass pokemon! You are his weakness!"
*Earthquakes*
"Try again :mad: !!!"
 

Crazie_Guy

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I'm a bit anxious to see how it turns out. I was a huge Pokemon fan but fell out with 5th gen. White version was the first Pokemon game in my life that failed to see over 100 hours, and I never bothered with BW2. Perhaps it was because non of the new Pokemon really worked for me, or more likely because I had become a studied competitive online battler in 4th gen then stopped battling near the end, and now the single player grind is just completely hollow compared to the strategy of real battles.



At any rate I'm hesitant about the move to full 3D. Back when even the DS games were speculative I was staunchly against 3D for 2 reason, first because the old DS's 3D is shit and I didn't want to see clean sprites replaced with the kind of models you would see in something like Yugioh nightmare troubadour, and secondly because 3D battles in an adventure based game as seen on the gamecube titles were slow as balls because everything has to go through its little animation for every single move, not to mention all the wasted moments it took for the camera to just circle the field between rounds. The first concern is more or less gone now with the powerful 3DS being able to put out decent 3D graphics, but the second concern could be a problem.
 

Laluune

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I'm very, very excited for this. It gives new meaning to the 3DS that has been sitting on my shelf gathering dust since ocarina. There's a fan video of pokemon converted to 3D floating around the internet and I remember seeing that and thinking "THIS is where Pokemon needs to go". and I don't mind the designs of the starter pokemon for once. The grass one is meh but Fire and Water look cool. I usually end up just collecting pink pokemon anyway. Don't know why.

And I'll say this. There will totally be a Pokemon Z because... 3D... X, Y... Z axis. Yeah. You know I'm right. I'm really in a strange mood today, sorry.
 

CrazyCapnMorgan

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Soooooo, I foresee me purchasing a 3DS in the somewhat near future. I hope they have pink colored ones.

Anyhoot, I hope they did the typing like what they did with Gen 4. I love the fact that Empoleon is the only Water/Steel type in the entirety of Pokemon. I choose it almost every time. I'll echo the sentiment that the Fire starter shouldn't be another Fighting dual type; though I hope if they do dual type the starters, it happens to ALL THREE of them.

To date and also outside of legendary Pokemon and alternate forms, they haven't made any Grass/Ghost, Grass/Fire, Grass/Electric or Grass/Dragon dual types.

Nor have they made Fire/Steel, Fire/Poison, Fire/Psychic, Fire/Electric, Fire/Water, Fire/Ice, Fire/Normal or Fire/Dragon dual types.

However, Water has been paired with pretty much every other type in the game, with the sole exception of Water/Fire. Which is not unusual, as Water-types are the most common in the game with 16.8% of all Pokemon having a Water-type affiliation.
 

Tropicaz

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Looks like it's going to be Fire/psychic, grass/dark and water/fighting, so it gives every starter a strength and weakness against the others.
I'll probably get it if 3DSes are about 80 quid by then.
 

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mysecondlife said:
Lethos said:
Wow it actually looks really good.

I'm glad the Fire Starter is a fox (or something). I normally always choose the Fire Starter but I didn't in the last gen because I don't like pigs... At least I got a grass snake though.

Actually really excited now XD
For a guy with a pokemon for an avatar, I didn't think you'd use the word 'actually' ...twice.
I liked the latest gens, but I don't think they were as good as Gens 1,2 & 3. So I was kinda surprised that this new one looked so good.
 

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GET BACK YE O WALL O' TEXT!!
See I can get behind it but the main series does have an enormous following as is, reinventing the series may draw back a few who are burnt out on it, but they tend to return after skipping a few generations and enjoy it once more, I've known a good deal of people who stopped at Crystal who ignored the series until Black & White and loved it once more.

If you changed it to an entirely real time action-rpg you'd probably lose a significant proportion of the current fanbase, which is something nintendo doesn't want to do at all. The portability of the games also adds to their addictiveness for most, personally I just play it curled up in bed :3

I'd like to see more games in the vein of Colosseum and XD on the Wii U or whatever, and then the series continue as it has been on the handhelds, I think thats a good compromise between the two and allows for more experimentation without damaging what makes pokemon so unique.

But as you say, thats life, maybe try skip pokemon for a few generations then puck up a newer one and give it a whirl, it may just suck you back in, but if you don't like it thats fine, the series doesn't need any drastic overhaul to the combat system.

Things that could be streamlined are the transisitons between battles and such though, maybe make wild encounters less of a chore when you're trying to get about, save me spamming super repels....
 

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CrazyCapnMorgan said:
Soooooo, I foresee me purchasing a 3DS in the somewhat near future. I hope they have pink colored ones.

Anyhoot, I hope they did the typing like what they did with Gen 4. I love the fact that Empoleon is the only Water/Steel type in the entirety of Pokemon. I choose it almost every time. I'll echo the sentiment that the Fire starter shouldn't be another Fighting dual type; though I hope if they do dual type the starters, it happens to ALL THREE of them.

To date and also outside of legendary Pokemon and alternate forms, they haven't made any Grass/Ghost, Grass/Fire, Grass/Electric or Grass/Dragon dual types.

Nor have they made Fire/Steel, Fire/Poison, Fire/Psychic, Fire/Electric, Fire/Water, Fire/Ice, Fire/Normal or Fire/Dragon dual types.

However, Water has been paired with pretty much every other type in the game, with the sole exception of Water/Fire. Which is not unusual, as Water-types are the most common in the game with 16.8% of all Pokemon having a Water-type affiliation.
I will throw my wallet at nintendo if they give me a grass-dragon starter. Especially if it comes with good speed and learns something like close combat or stone edge for those pesky ice's.
 

SEXTON HALE

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This is really getting me excited,it's been a while since ive played any of the pokemon games but now I think i might revisit a few before jumping into the newer generations.
 

Arqus_Zed

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Hahaha, oh my God, I can just see how the development of this game went.

"Alright, so you handful of poor bastards are gonna model, unwrap, texture, rig and skin 650+ individual Pokémon, no matter how crappy the designs are, have fun!"

As for the game itself...
I don't really care. It's still a SMT knock-off (an EXTREMELY geniously marketed knock-off) that has only innovated on the most useless aspects of the series. Add more attack slots? Allow for a combination of multiple passive and active abilities? Implement a fusion mechanism? Hah, what silly ideas! Let's put in a beauty contest instead! And while we're at it, let's release every installment multiple times without any significant differences, cha-ching!

Yeah, I don't have anything against you kiddies having fun, but I'm gonna stick with Atlus.