[Polatics] Trump wants to dump Migrants in Sanctuary Cities

[Saint of M]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-proposed-releasing-immigrant-detainees-in-sanctuary-cities-to-target-political-enemies

So, the President wants to release detained migrants into the custady of Sanctuary Cities. Somehow I think this is going to turn out badly for all.

Thoughts?

 

[Saelune]

Hm, was doubtful cause Fox News, but the Fox News article linked to a Washington Post article with literally the same headline.

So what? Is this like when you catch your kid smoking, so you make them smoke a whole carton or something? Is that the plan here?

Anyways, the pros and cons as I see it.

Pro: These people get to be in the US.

Con: Right-wingers get to spin a bunch of bullshit, particularly when the overload of people stresses the cities' resources, and actual crimes get committed by any of the immigrants, then they get to blanket condemn all of them. Also right-wingers don't have to deal with the immigrants themselves.

Reminder to any 'totally not racist' immigrant haters out there, Trump is the one letting the immigrants in. If you hate them 'despite how not racist you are', blame Trump. You probably wont, atleast you wont actually stop supporting him for it, but still, Trump is the one to blame.

 

[Saint of M]

Yeah, but I'm thinking the overgrown oompaloompa is planning on flooding the sanctuary cities past what they can reasonably help these people in need, or hopes to. One more year of this, right?

 

[CaitSeith]

Saw it coming; this is not the first time USA has concentration camps, I'm surprised they didn't wait for WWIII this time tho. Those who don't learn from history...

 

[Saelune]

Saw it coming; this is not the first time USA has concentration camps, I'm surprised they didn't wait for WWIII this time tho. Those who don't learn from history...

Its less 'Concentration Camp' (for now) and more 'You want immigrants, fine, have ALL the immigrants!'.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

So what if he did? Is he going to build a wall around US cities and live out his "Escape from LA" fantasies? What is the difference between dropping them off in one city vs them starting in another? They will just go to where they were trying to go regardless. If a city gets overwhelmed, they just bus them elsewhere as they have been for ages now. There are plenty of employers and farming towns that will gladly pay to have migrants bused to them as they are very shorthanded atm. I don't see this as a problem tbh. It is nothing border cities have not dealt with for a long time, so am not really seeing it any different.

Does Trump somehow think that the US has not dealt with influxes of migrants for a very long time or something? Simply because he does not know how to deal with immigration does not mean everyone else is as stupid as he is.

 

[Saint of M]

So what if he did? Is he going to build a wall around US cities and live out his "Escape from LA" fantasies? What is the difference between dropping them off in one city vs them starting in another? They will just go to where they were trying to go regardless. If a city gets overwhelmed, they just bus them elsewhere as they have been for ages now. There are plenty of employers and farming towns that will gladly pay to have migrants bused to them as they are very shorthanded atm. I don't see this as a problem tbh. It is nothing border cities have not dealt with for a long time, so am not really seeing it any different.

Does Trump somehow think that the US has not dealt with influxes of migrants for a very long time or something? Simply because he does not know how to deal with immigration does not mean everyone else is as stupid as he is.

The Sanctuary Cities, from what little I understand keep in mind, are suppose to be safe places. A refuge from the hell the Illegal Aliens usually get. THey move out of them they have a higher chance of getting flack.

 

[Xprimentyl]

Trump is a petulant, spoiled brat of a man-child. I'm about as apolitical as they come, but this "man" seems to go out of his way to find ways to grind gears I've managed to gleefully ignore for nearly 30 years.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Define what places will be Sanctuary Cities?

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

So what if he did? Is he going to build a wall around US cities and live out his "Escape from LA" fantasies? What is the difference between dropping them off in one city vs them starting in another? They will just go to where they were trying to go regardless. If a city gets overwhelmed, they just bus them elsewhere as they have been for ages now. There are plenty of employers and farming towns that will gladly pay to have migrants bused to them as they are very shorthanded atm. I don't see this as a problem tbh. It is nothing border cities have not dealt with for a long time, so am not really seeing it any different.

Does Trump somehow think that the US has not dealt with influxes of migrants for a very long time or something? Simply because he does not know how to deal with immigration does not mean everyone else is as stupid as he is.

The Sanctuary Cities, from what little I understand keep in mind, are suppose to be safe places. A refuge from the hell the Illegal Aliens usually get. THey move out of them they have a higher chance of getting flack.

If Trump starts telling farmers he will bus migrants to sanctuary cities for free, you can be damn sure more towns run by farmers are going to instantly become sanctuary cities. LOL

They would LOVE Trump to do that, not get mad about it. They will just be moving more of them around to other sanctuary cities if they get unevenly distributed.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

Define what places will be Sanctuary Cities?

These are existing sancturay states/ counties/ cities:

https://www.dopplr.com/sanctuary-city-list/

Not sure if it is up to date or complete. Though it is said Trump was scrapping this idea, likely because he realized how happy he was making everyone, if he did go with this idea, I am sure more would start popping up all over the place. The people and their local government there are who decide if they want to become a sanctuary city. Although numerous churches in most cities will offer sanctuary as well, they are not able to leave the church when that happens.

 

[Trunkage]

So this is just an extension of conservative idea that no one wants immigrants in their actual backyard. Like that reporter breaking into the Dems senators house with illegals a few weeks ago, just to prove that the Dems don't want to look after them.

Seems like it backfired because sanctuary are actually interested in helping

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

So this is just an extension of conservative idea that no one wants immigrants in their actual backyard. Like that reporter breaking into the Dems senators house with illegals a few weeks ago, just to prove that the Dems don't want to look after them.

Seems like it backfired because sanctuary are actually interested in helping

Many towns and cities that have had population in decline ALSO want them. That is why that big blob over Iowa exists for sanctuary on the map linked above.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/gray-matters/article/How-immigrants-are-reviving-small-towns-9205983.php
https://www.texasobserver.org/these-rural-panhandle-towns-should-be-shrinking-but-thanks-to-immigrants-theyre-booming/
https://money.cnn.com/2016/10/21/news/economy/immigrants-distressed-cities/index.html

Unlike what Trump attempts to portray, immigrants help the economy and communities rather than harm them. Trump just wants to divert attention from the REAL problem facing communities and that is the wealthy sucking them dry by hoarding all the resources and funneling all the wealth into fewer and fewer hands making it so the communities can no longer support themselves. Reality is the communities NEED the immigrants. What they don't need is the One percenters like Trump taking all their resources for themselves leaving everyone else with nothing. Trump's racist attacks on immigrants was just to rile people to have a "common enemy" so they would waste their time focusing their anger on that instead of on the real problem. It is just a diversion. Immigrants are hard workers and can help build a community, Trump and most of the wealthy in the US are not, they just take the wealth that those working hard should have earned while not working hardly at all for the most part. IF we took their hands out of the cookie jar there would be more than enough for everyone else.


No wonder they sound so much alike, Trump apparently had Hitler's speeches in his bedside table:

Donald Trump reportedly owned a copy of Adolf Hitler?s speeches and kept them in his bedside cabinet.

A 1990 Vanity Fair article about billionaire businessman stated that Mr Trump?s then wife Ivana, said her husband owned a copy of ?My New Order? ? a printed collection of the Nazi leader?s speeches.

Marie Brenner, the article?s author, wrote: ?Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, 'My New Order', which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-adolf-hitler-books-bedside-cabinet-ex-wife-ivana-trump-vanity-fair-1990-a7639041.html

 

[Leg End]

There are plenty of employers and farming towns that will gladly pay to have migrants bused to them as they are very shorthanded atm.

Anyone else disturbed that everyone seems to see Mexican illegal immigrants as cheap slave farm labor, and nothing else?

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

There are plenty of employers and farming towns that will gladly pay to have migrants bused to them as they are very shorthanded atm.

Anyone else disturbed that everyone seems to see Mexican illegal immigrants as cheap slave farm labor, and nothing else?

Did you read the links I provided above?

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/gray-matters/article/How-immigrants-are-reviving-small-towns-9205983.php
https://www.texasobserver.org/these-rural-panhandle-towns-should-be-shrinking-but-thanks-to-immigrants-theyre-booming/
https://money.cnn.com/2016/10/21/news/economy/immigrants-distressed-cities/index.html

Sure, farms are a large scale employer for farm workers who lost their fields due to climate change, thus there are already numerous experienced farmers needing work:
https://www.texasobserver.org/climate-change-migration-central-america-united-states/

Of course they are not all farmers, but when many of them actually are farmers who lost everything due to climate change, it is okay to address them as farmers. Immigrants are not the only farmers in the US btw. The only person I see claiming they are "nothing else" is you. Discussing that the US has major shortages on farms and that many of the immigrants coming to the US happen to actually be farmers makes sense when they are a large scale employer.

This guy started out as a dishwasher and went on to become a restaurant owner before Trump had him deported:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2018/03/11/feature/a-beloved-restaurant-owner-was-deported-a-community-was-in-uproar-then-it-moved-on/


25% of new businesses in the US are from immigrants:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dinahwisenberg/2018/07/31/immigrant-entrepreneurs-form-25-of-new-u-s-business-researchers/


Of course they are "everything else" just like "everyone else", that is just how reality works here. Simply because I discuss farms because they large scale employers who are extremely shorthanded right now in no way implies they are " nothing else", I also discussed how they are rebuilding and reviving communities. You need much more than farmers to get that done now don't you?

 

[Pyrian]

Trump: "Ooops, I accidentally proposed a good idea, so we're scrapping that effective immediately!"

 

[Trunkage]

There are plenty of employers and farming towns that will gladly pay to have migrants bused to them as they are very shorthanded atm.

Anyone else disturbed that everyone seems to see Mexican illegal immigrants as cheap slave farm labor, and nothing else?

Well, not distributed. Capitalism means that if you entering the market, you will have a low wage. So it's a general resignation to this is just how the world works

 

[Saelune]

Something that was made apparent to me; Trump considers immigrants to be scum, criminals and rapists (Trump likes to project doesn't he?) so what he is doing in his mind is unleashing a ton of rapists and criminals onto Left-Wing cities. While he is wrong about these people, his intent is (unsurprisingly) extremely malicious. If he was accurate about immigrants (he isn't by the way) then that means he was totally ok destroying American cities to 'prove a point' or whatever.

Trump is the real scum and he is indefensible.

 

[Marik2]

lol, the guy is trying to set up a quasi social experiment about immigration.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Yeah, but it's one of those internet Social Experiments, in that it only became one after people started laughing at him.