Political correctness
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Political correctness is big because it could mean gaining lots of money or losing it, depending on what end of it you're on. If you find yourself to be the victim of someone's indiscretions, you can sue their pants of and get millions. So, if you don't do your best to prevent such indiscretions, you could just as easily lose those millions. Most of it is about money, when you get down to it.
Let me guess... White male, age 18-35, and likely from the States?CarpathianMuffin said:
It's easy to argue against political correctness when you're in the group that society favours above all others.
Although I agree that on the list of the world's problems gendered words probably aren't at the top, I believe political correctness as a whole that is something that is important, especially in professional environments, as it makes a person choose their words carefully and regard others as equals.
If you truly think that choosing your words to avoid alienating and potentially repressing others is an insult to your intelligence, then I have to wonder about your own priorities.
There is a push in the world today to force a certain narrative of both the current age and the past. The people who push this agenda push the language that will reinforce this agenda. It is through this nonsensical newspeak that they have, so far successfully, controlled much of the public dialogue on certain issues.
If this sounds like I'm talking about some conspiracy, well, maybe I am. There's every indication that much of the left in the United States has had many members with very Marxist ideas(some were even Soviet 'sympathizers'), and it's hard not to look at the platform of the left, and not think of lines that Karl Marx wrote.
If this sounds like I'm talking about some conspiracy, well, maybe I am. There's every indication that much of the left in the United States has had many members with very Marxist ideas(some were even Soviet 'sympathizers'), and it's hard not to look at the platform of the left, and not think of lines that Karl Marx wrote.
Really? I think we're doing better than the Americans, partially cause we're slowly pushing religion from the basis of our political system, and much further ahead than they are. Basing rational systems on irrational bedrock causes crazy shit to happen.THEAFRONINJA said:
P.s. I mean, I've never been hit with the PC stick going through school, as long as the other guy gets what you mean, and you're not intentionally offending them there's never been an issue. If there was, no need for government shit, you just say: I didn't mean to cause any offense by calling you black; and it's all good.
PPS: Actually slightly untrue, they tried to get the teachers to call them chalkboards instead of blackboards in Primary school, but they just lolzd
A lot of these terms are encouraged because the more colloquial expressions are used as insults (such as retard).
In the case of vision-impaired vs blind (and other similar cases), it's about good communication. Blindness is a level of visual impairment and one with a legal definition.
For the racial ones, it seems as if it really depends on the country you live in for what is acceptable. In the United States specifically, we have a rather shameful history when it comes to anybody who isn't a white male. Hell, it's been just under 50 years since we decided that public racial discrimination should be legally prohibited. Most of these alternative terms have been used heavily as insults, and/or are simply inaccurate (Indians are from India). In the case of Native Americans specifically, our modern depictions of them are still often inaccurate at best, insulting at worst, and ignore the nigh-genocidal attitude (and results) of our relations with the many, many, nations of people that were here first.
If you want to use the terms around your friends, or family, or other groups of people that you know won't be offended by your terminology, that's fine. Nobody's saying you can't do that. These terms exist because, when dealing with large groups of people, you're dealing with a lot of backgrounds and life experiences. If you don't know these people well, it can be easy to unintentionally insult or alienate someone through a poor choice of words, which can lead to more serious consequences. It's not an evil overarching conspiracy to destroy your freedom to call people short.
In the case of vision-impaired vs blind (and other similar cases), it's about good communication. Blindness is a level of visual impairment and one with a legal definition.
For the racial ones, it seems as if it really depends on the country you live in for what is acceptable. In the United States specifically, we have a rather shameful history when it comes to anybody who isn't a white male. Hell, it's been just under 50 years since we decided that public racial discrimination should be legally prohibited. Most of these alternative terms have been used heavily as insults, and/or are simply inaccurate (Indians are from India). In the case of Native Americans specifically, our modern depictions of them are still often inaccurate at best, insulting at worst, and ignore the nigh-genocidal attitude (and results) of our relations with the many, many, nations of people that were here first.
If you want to use the terms around your friends, or family, or other groups of people that you know won't be offended by your terminology, that's fine. Nobody's saying you can't do that. These terms exist because, when dealing with large groups of people, you're dealing with a lot of backgrounds and life experiences. If you don't know these people well, it can be easy to unintentionally insult or alienate someone through a poor choice of words, which can lead to more serious consequences. It's not an evil overarching conspiracy to destroy your freedom to call people short.
I'd say black people have as much in common with black sheep as white people have with white sheep.
And isn't "Baa baa rainbow sheep" insulting to care bears?
Yes, the amount of political correctness is getting a bit ridiculous. I was just watching Flesh and Blood this afternoon and all the while I was thinking; Something like this would never be allowed to be made these days.
And isn't "Baa baa rainbow sheep" insulting to care bears?
Yes, the amount of political correctness is getting a bit ridiculous. I was just watching Flesh and Blood this afternoon and all the while I was thinking; Something like this would never be allowed to be made these days.
What about 'the gays'?!?! Rainbow sheep. Clearly homophobicBobic said:
Lolololol!Political Correctness, for the most part, is bollocks you'll find. The whole 'Can't call a black board a black board anymore' is all bullshit. No one has ever enforced that.
Most PC has just been made up to stir the average person to resent it. Much of the BNPs (British National Party, British 21st Century semi-facist part for any Non-Brits) advertisement is to make people in britain feel as though they are now second class citizens. It's just bullshit really.
Some political correctness has gotten a little out of hand, but for the most part it's simply the media and poltical parties playing on peoples worries that britian will become a muslim nation and such... (Few people seem interested in the fact that only 3% of the population is actually muslim)
THEAFRONINJA said:
Why don't they just ban the entire colour black, then? That's where we're headed anyway, aren't we?
I mean, why do villains always wear black? Racist, right?
The rainbow sheep had me in fits, though.
I haven't seen a single time where calling somebody an African American makes them seem more equal than calling them black. I agree that an air of professionalism does need to be maintained, it just doesn't need to spill out into traditions and the media that haven't been complained about by sane people.MasochisticMuse said:
FamoFunk said:
That's just good manors. Calling someone a retard was never going to be acceptable.
That one is complex. That's why I say black, not Anglo-African or African-American. It's easier and isn't offensive.
That's just logic. They are Native Americans and aren't just Indians.
That's logic. People still say fireman but when it comes to women it's a little difficult to say firewoman compared to firefighter.
More or less stupid. The widely known terms are blind and deaf, they aren't offensive.
That's complete media bullshit. It might have happened in a couple of schools out of fear caused by the media but children are still taught 'bah bah black sheep'. If anyone actually thought about it then they would realise that:
1) The black sheep's wool is more valuable than the white sheep's because it is more rare and
2) They're sheep and do not symbolise society
OT: I use good manors, not political correctness. If it doesn't offend someone, I will continue to use it.
BaBa rainbow sheep? Is the sheep gay? Oh, im sorry, I meant Homosexual; I have to be politically correct. Is rainbow sheep homosexual?
I don't care, I am overly politically correct at times because it's funny as all hell, just because it's so...dare I say...retarded?
Most of the times I don't care, I use racial remarks with friends and they don't care. I say Merry Christmas, I say retarded, gay, blind, deaf, dumb, stupid, fireman...this is stupid.
I don't think this is a big deal, it's just words.
I don't care, I am overly politically correct at times because it's funny as all hell, just because it's so...dare I say...retarded?
Most of the times I don't care, I use racial remarks with friends and they don't care. I say Merry Christmas, I say retarded, gay, blind, deaf, dumb, stupid, fireman...this is stupid.
I don't think this is a big deal, it's just words.
Totally agreed.
If someone feels like my words are offending him, move on and get over it. I'm not gonna change my vocabulary just because of someone's insecurity and tendency to wet himself at night while he has nightmares of me saying that black is black and white is white (Also, since when "black" has negative meaning? If you think it has, you're a racist.). We have psychiatrists for that.
BTW: I've gotta feeling i'll be suspended for that. Political correctness seems to be some Escapist moderators' point of existence.
If someone feels like my words are offending him, move on and get over it. I'm not gonna change my vocabulary just because of someone's insecurity and tendency to wet himself at night while he has nightmares of me saying that black is black and white is white (Also, since when "black" has negative meaning? If you think it has, you're a racist.). We have psychiatrists for that.
BTW: I've gotta feeling i'll be suspended for that. Political correctness seems to be some Escapist moderators' point of existence.
Political correctness only becomes a problem when it prevents people from conveying their exact opinions in the most accurate way possible.
No to pathetic euphemisms - which are only used to cover up and distract from the substance of the problems anyway - but yes to being considerate insofar it does not clash with one's stance and ability to verbalize it.
No to pathetic euphemisms - which are only used to cover up and distract from the substance of the problems anyway - but yes to being considerate insofar it does not clash with one's stance and ability to verbalize it.
Someday, the word banana will be politically incorrect, because it will have become a slur for some group of people. We will no longer be able to say banana, because banana is offensive.
****** used to mean branch or twig, and it was also the name of a type of meatball. Now, that word can only be used on /b/.
****** used to mean branch or twig, and it was also the name of a type of meatball. Now, that word can only be used on /b/.