Also not the problem. The guns in these games (minus a couple of sidearms and maybe a shotgun or two) aren't even available to buy, so he can't possibly have a problem with the guns that the game is marketing. You can blame non-humans for human actions.Adam Jensen said:
Politician Asks Game Makers to End Real-Life Gun Licensing
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How ridiculous. If any medium COULD have a relationship with real life violence, it would be FILMS, which use real people in real situations and sometimes REAL GUNS.
But they don't have any relationship.
It's like asking to have all swords removed from video games. WHAT?!
I can see it now. "Just use sticks! That way, there will be no nefarious connection to real world sharp objects!".
(-_-)\ <- me rubbing my temple.
Look, ... UGH FORGET IT!!!!
edit: okay I couldn't forget it.
When I see someone defend them self with a sword in a video game, it doesn't make me froth at the mouth and want to start chopping things\people. Only very small children mimic in this fashion, and that's because... THEY DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER! Anyone over the age of like, 7 will know better.
And if you're providing children that small with a weapon of any sort, you're just simply a horrible parent.
But they don't have any relationship.
It's like asking to have all swords removed from video games. WHAT?!
I can see it now. "Just use sticks! That way, there will be no nefarious connection to real world sharp objects!".
(-_-)\ <- me rubbing my temple.
Look, ... UGH FORGET IT!!!!
edit: okay I couldn't forget it.
When I see someone defend them self with a sword in a video game, it doesn't make me froth at the mouth and want to start chopping things\people. Only very small children mimic in this fashion, and that's because... THEY DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER! Anyone over the age of like, 7 will know better.
And if you're providing children that small with a weapon of any sort, you're just simply a horrible parent.
Once a-fucking-gain the same old goddamn misinformed retard opinion from politicians with their heads so far up their asses you can't tell where one part ends and the other begins.
When do we get to criminalize this hate speech against games?
I'm serious, btw.
When do we get to criminalize this hate speech against games?
I'm serious, btw.
Foolish politician makes foolish statement about a subject that has no importance or actual consequence in reality.
(bonus points for following up with a statement that directly undermines his message)
Nevermind that most licensed firearms shown in games are very expensive and difficult for a child to acquire. If the issue he's talking is supposed to imply that games teach children how to use firearms, that makes even less sense.
Games alone cannot teach children how to handle a firearm properly. There is no muscle memory, no experience with handling recoil, no field stripping and cleaning, or hell most games don't even show where the bloody SAFETY is located.
By why the fuck should I expect Politicians to provide any sort of evidence for their proposals at this point?
They're only lawyers and top bred businessmen.
(bonus points for following up with a statement that directly undermines his message)
Nevermind that most licensed firearms shown in games are very expensive and difficult for a child to acquire. If the issue he's talking is supposed to imply that games teach children how to use firearms, that makes even less sense.
Games alone cannot teach children how to handle a firearm properly. There is no muscle memory, no experience with handling recoil, no field stripping and cleaning, or hell most games don't even show where the bloody SAFETY is located.
By why the fuck should I expect Politicians to provide any sort of evidence for their proposals at this point?
They're only lawyers and top bred businessmen.
"Blah blah blah I have no proof of what I'm going on about blah blah blah blah SANDY HOOK! blah blah blah TERRORISM! blah blah blah I'm a senior!! Blah blah blah blah Video games are the devil! Blah blah blah Stop using guns in games! Blah blah blah Get off my lawn!"
Another politically motivated move to look like they are actually doing something. EA are nuts to run with this, because it won't actually stop them or another other dev from dealing with gun manufacturers. In order for an action game to be made involving real guns, devs have to test real guns on ranges and have replicas for creative reference at their studios during development.
Changing names means little to nothing, when some parents can teach their kids to shoot from an early age. And as demonstrated above pictures can speak louder than words. I can tell a SCAR when I see one, than an M4 or M16, because I've seen many of them over the years.
Changing names means little to nothing, when some parents can teach their kids to shoot from an early age. And as demonstrated above pictures can speak louder than words. I can tell a SCAR when I see one, than an M4 or M16, because I've seen many of them over the years.
In terms of the subject... I don't care... I take spinfuser any day over AK47 (TM)
I actually think it's more creative to have unreal names for guns like GTA2 did with cars... when they have immaginary brands... we should do that for guns as well... so we don't have to pop in different games... but get the same sets of weapons every time...
I actually think it's more creative to have unreal names for guns like GTA2 did with cars... when they have immaginary brands... we should do that for guns as well... so we don't have to pop in different games... but get the same sets of weapons every time...
The thing is though it is not any more creative than what they do now. In games that are suppose to take place in a "realistic" setting, the developers will continue using the exact same models. Worst still is any minor changes they make to the weapon, just comes across as the developer having been lazy in their creation of the game.punipunipyo said:
Now the reason that the unreal names for the cars, work in the GTA is because it is not suppose to take place in this universe. It takes place in a universe that is a parody of this one.
You know I have to admit, I actually like this idea. I mean as much as I've always been an opponent of the 'Video Games = Real Violence" idea I can't deny that a 14 year old knowing how to actually load, chamber, and fire an H&K M416 just because they play Battlefield 3 is a little disconcerting. I wouldn't mind this at all and I'm happily impressed that someone up on capital hill has figured out how to act like a god damn adult about all this. I would gladly vote for this to pass if it to that.
Yet another politician trying to scapegoat videogames because he is too gutless to tackle gun control.
I live in the UK, where we play the same violent, gun loving psychopath producing video games as people in the US, however, in 2012 58 people were murdered with firearms in the UK, compared to 8,775 in the US. (The US population is approximatley 5x the population of the UK, so if you scale the figures up it shows there were about 30x as many gun killings in the US as there were in the UK per head of population.)
But how can that be I hear you cry? We all know that guns in video games are the only cause of gun crime dont we? Surely it couldn't have anything to do with the strict gun control in the UK could it? Of course not, as any republican will tell you, gun control doesn't work. As for why less people get shot in the UK every year? I guess its just a mystery.
The source of my figures: http://www.juancole.com/2012/07/58-murders-a-year-by-firearms-in-britain-8775-in-us.html
I live in the UK, where we play the same violent, gun loving psychopath producing video games as people in the US, however, in 2012 58 people were murdered with firearms in the UK, compared to 8,775 in the US. (The US population is approximatley 5x the population of the UK, so if you scale the figures up it shows there were about 30x as many gun killings in the US as there were in the UK per head of population.)
But how can that be I hear you cry? We all know that guns in video games are the only cause of gun crime dont we? Surely it couldn't have anything to do with the strict gun control in the UK could it? Of course not, as any republican will tell you, gun control doesn't work. As for why less people get shot in the UK every year? I guess its just a mystery.
The source of my figures: http://www.juancole.com/2012/07/58-murders-a-year-by-firearms-in-britain-8775-in-us.html