Article 13: What happens when people too old to understand the internet start trying to control the internet
[POLITICS] EU passes Article 13
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Huh, that's going to cause all sorts of problems for the net, and this place in particular. Oh well, at least we've still got the R&P forum, oh wait...
Sorry, couldn't resist. I stand by my first phrase, though.
Sorry, couldn't resist. I stand by my first phrase, though.
Whoever's running the EU must have stock in VPN companies...
Are you sure you wanna take that stance? Not that I disagree, mind you XD.
There's a faction who is of the belief that EVERYTHING is political so to single something out means you're implying that some things aren't.Kyle Gaddo said:
Are you sure you wanna take that stance? Not that I disagree, mind you XD.
What is it with this common trend amongst conservatives not quite grasping the concept of a simple fallacy, or regularly appearing to anyway. It's getting pretty old and tiring at this point, to say the least...vallorn said:
https://towardsdatascience.com/why-correlation-does-not-imply-causation-5b99790df07e
There. Now that's all out in the clear, such fallacious thinking should give way to greater understanding in the future.Why correlation does not imply causation?
Correlation and causation are terms which are mostly misunderstood and often used interchangeably. Understanding both the statistical terms is very important not only to make conclusions but more importantly, making correct conclusion at the end. In this blogpost we will understand why correlation does not imply causation.
A lot of times we have heard ?correlation does not cause causation? or ?correlation does not imply causation? or ?correlation is not causation?. But what they mean actually by saying this?
You will get a clear idea once we go through this blogpost. So let?s start!
Getting the basics right
Correlation is a statistical technique which tells us how strongly the pair of variables are linearly related and change together. It does not tell us why and how behind the relationship but it just says the relationship exists.
Example: Correlation between Ice cream sales and sunglasses sold.
As the sales of ice creams is increasing so do the sales of sunglasses.
Causation takes a step further than correlation. It says any change in the value of one variable will cause a change in the value of another variable, which means one variable makes other to happen. It is also referred as cause and effect.
Example: When a person is exercising then the amount of calories burning goes up every minute. Former is causing latter to happen.
So now we know what correlation and causation is, it?s time to understand ?Correlation does not imply causation!? with a famous example.
Ice cream sales is correlated with homicides in New York (Study)
As the sales of ice cream rise and fall, so do the number of homicides. Does the consumption of ice cream causing the death of the people?
No. Two things are correlated doesn?t mean one causes other.
Correlation does not mean causality or in our example, ice cream is not causing the death of people.
When 2 unrelated things tied together, so these can be either bound by causality or correlation.
In Majority of the cases correlation, are just because of the coincidences. Just because it seems like one factor is influencing the other, it doesn?t mean that it?s actually does.
Correlation is something which we think, when we can?t see under the covers. So the less the information we have the more we are forced to observe correlations. Similarly the more information we have the more transparent things will become and the more we will be able to see the actual casual relationships.
[small]Relationship of sunny days with ice-cream sales and homicide[/small]
Consider underlying factors before conclusion
In some cases there are some hidden factors which are related on some level. Like in our example of ice cream sales and homicide rates, weather is the hidden factor which is causing both the things.Weather is actually causing the rise in ice cream sales and homicides. As in summer people usually go out, enjoy nice sunny day and chill themselves with ice creams. So when it?s sunny, wide range of people are outside and there is a wider selection of victims for predators.
There is no causal relationship between the ice cream and rate of homicide, sunny weather is bringing both the factors together. And yes, ice cream sales and homicide has a causal relationship with weather.
Don?t conclude too fast!
Just after finding correlation, don?t draw the conclusion too quickly. Take time to find other underlying factors as correlation is just the first step. Find the hidden factors, verify if they are correct and then conclude.
Hope this post cleared your doubts!
Thanks for reading!
EU bad! No renaming sausages as "Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tubes". That is totally not a thing made up by Yes, Minister.MrCalavera said:
In the event anyone is curious as to the breakdown of party affiliation and voting direction.
Basically what we are to take from this is that Socialists and Old people really want to censor the internet.
EPP is conservatives or moderate right. It is mostly their fault. S&D are social democrats or moderate left, not socialists. That would be GUE/NGL which are pretty clearly against it.The Lunatic said:
We'll have to see what comes of this. Content filters won't just magically saturate over every piece of media out there, and the requirements for such filters will be varying from site to site. FB and YT will have the strictest ones. Of course the concern is that sites will start to remove sharing features as a precaution. But we'll see. It's good to have more definite restrictions in place like in America with fair use.
Wat? Plenty of people have been talking about this. Its about the only thing all the political YouTubers unanimously agree on.Marik2 said:
Ya know, we could like, blame evil business practices instead of blaming laws that atleast want to oppose them.
Law: 'Stop abusing people or we will punish you!'
Criminal: 'Fine, guess we will become more sneaky in how we abuse people!'
People: 'How dare the law make criminals abuse people!'
Maybe the law could do a better job, but lets not pretend the abusive corporations arent also the problem.
Law: 'Stop abusing people or we will punish you!'
Criminal: 'Fine, guess we will become more sneaky in how we abuse people!'
People: 'How dare the law make criminals abuse people!'
Maybe the law could do a better job, but lets not pretend the abusive corporations arent also the problem.
"Wanna keep your memes? Vote reds or greens!"[footnote]If any political party or coalition wants to use this motto, just pm me.[/footnote]Satinavian said:
Public interest with laws such as Article 13 trace all the way back to ACTA, which happened long time before Trump political career.Marik2 said:
Satinavian said:
Let me get this straight.
S&D, The Socialist and Democratic party. Itself being the European Parliamentary group of The Socialist Parties of Europe. Does not represent True Socialism??
The Socialist Party of Europe is made up of the following parties:
Section fran?aise de l'Internationale ouvri?re
Parti socialiste
Bulgarska sotsialisticheska partiya
Partito Socialista Italiano
Partido Socialista Obrero Espa?ol
And so on.
The European Parliament is not so clear cut, and there's groups which overlap.
S&D is the party of Socialists and Democrats who work together to find solutions to Europe's problems.
European United Left?Nordic Green Left, or GUE/NGL only really exists because of an enlargement of the European parliament in 1995, and originally started as a Nordic Movement for environmental activism before teaming up with various Left-wing groups in Europe who did not feel they could fully starve people with only the moderate socialism proscribed by the S&D.
Both are parties made up of socialist groups, who desire socialism.
And there's the reason we need the WW. High quality nonsense thread shut down with a single word. Fun threads always seem to be against the rules :/Marik2 said: