[Politics, I guess] Jeffrey Epstein found dead in his cell under mysterious circumstance.

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Epstein's ability to kill himself while on suicide watch shows us that the rich really are just more capable than everyone else.

I've heard it was (Bill) Clinton, I've heard it was Trump... let's be honest: they both and many others had plenty of reason to want that guy dead. But probably earlier, you would think.
From what I hear the suicide watch was pulled almost two weeks ago. And I gotta say that my first thought was that someone killed him in an attempt to protect Trump (admitted bias there). I don't think the orange man himself ordered the hit, if he did he'd probably end up bragging about it, but I do think someone high up in the Trump administration would be capable of both ordering the murder and keeping quite about doing so.
 

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It does seem rather suspicious... but if he was guilty, I can't bring myself to feel sorry for him.

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(This is still a gaming site forum, isn't it?)
Nominally, yes, but ever since we got rid of the R&P section, people have been crowding this one with political crap...
 

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I keep hearing about the cameras stopped working conveniently when the suicide happened, but I can't find any news source.
Haven't heard that, but wouldn't surprise me at all
 
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...I'm not surprised in the least, but this makes me REAAAAAL suspicious.

I wonder if this was done to shut him up and that the biggest evidence will mysteriously vanish.

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I feel like its going to be the opposite. Now that he's out of the way it'll all just be swept under the rug.

"The man is dead, I think we can move on" will be on Fox news within the week.
This is my fear. I hope they nail everyone involved, whether it be trump, clinton, or anybody else.

The truth needs to out.

Marik2 said:
I keep hearing about the cameras stopped working conveniently when the suicide happened, but I can't find any news source.
Yeah, if that happens, I'll be pretty much convinced it was a hit job. >_>
 

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twistedmic said:
And I gotta say that my first thought was that someone killed him in an attempt to protect Trump (admitted bias there).
Trump, or the Clintons, or Prince Andrew, etc, etc, etc. Or maybe he really did commit suicide, but everyone I mentioned before is sleeping better tonight with him dead.
 

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Clinton supporters - "Trump had him killed!"

Trump supporters - "The Clintons had him killed!"

Smart people - "The CIA killed him because they had been using him to gather blackmail on all of the rich super-elite and the moment he started talking it would have made those materials worthless for blackmailing purposes. Blackmail only works if people don't know about it."
 

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I guess suicide watch means "watch him commit suicide" now lol.

But yeah, I'm sure if you're convinced you're going to jail for the rest of your life after having lived the megalomaniacal dream life for 60+ years killing yourself makes sense, I don't care much for all the conspiracies.
 

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Marik2 said:
I keep hearing about the cameras stopped working conveniently when the suicide happened, but I can't find any news source.
Probably fake. I think he was no longer on suicide watch, so there shouldn't have been any cameras there.

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While the body's still warm, have a Hard Drive's take:
https://twitter.com/HardDriveMag/status/1160247103127543808

(This is still a gaming site forum, isn't it?)
They need to make this into a real mission. Obviously they'd have to change his name to something like Jessie Stein or something.
 

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CrazyGirl17 said:
It does seem rather suspicious... but if he was guilty, I can't bring myself to feel sorry for him.

MrCalavera said:
(This is still a gaming site forum, isn't it?)
Nominally, yes, but ever since we got rid of the R&P section, people have been crowding this one with political crap...
Well, this right here has always been an Off Topic forum. The Gaming forum is over there.
 

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I find it funny that right-wingers think we worship Bill Clinton. But then, many right-wingers often tell me how it surprises them how consistent I am in my views. Like, you know you don't HAVE to be a hypocrite, right?

If Bill is one of Epstein's pedo friends, he should go to jail too, along with Trump and whoever else.
 

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Damn it I wanted him to implicate lots of rich people.
More people will speak up now that he's dead. Lots of files are being released now or something.
I feel like its going to be the opposite. Now that he's out of the way it'll all just be swept under the rug.

"The man is dead, I think we can move on" will be on Fox news within the week.
Like it would be the first time they had documents "lost" or destroyed or as it that is difficult to do or something. Yea I am going to be guessing there is enough money, connections and resources behind not having documents found to make that a reality considering the sheer amount of wealth of those involved with Epstein. If they cannot use their hoards of wealth to make some paper disappear, what do they have it for anyways right?
 

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Saelune said:
I find it funny that right-wingers think we worship Bill Clinton. But then, many right-wingers often tell me how it surprises them how consistent I am in my views. Like, you know you don't HAVE to be a hypocrite, right?

If Bill is one of Epstein's pedo friends, he should go to jail too, along with Trump and whoever else.
They should, but you and I both know they won't.
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
Clinton supporters - "Trump had him killed!"

Trump supporters - "The Clintons had him killed!"

Smart people - "The CIA killed him because they had been using him to gather blackmail on all of the rich super-elite and the moment he started talking it would have made those materials worthless for blackmailing purposes. Blackmail only works if people don't know about it."
Smart people might think that they both did it together. They both travel in the same circles
 

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trunkage said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
Clinton supporters - "Trump had him killed!"

Trump supporters - "The Clintons had him killed!"

Smart people - "The CIA killed him because they had been using him to gather blackmail on all of the rich super-elite and the moment he started talking it would have made those materials worthless for blackmailing purposes. Blackmail only works if people don't know about it."
Smart people might think that they both did it together. They both travel in the same circles
I'm a total non-believer when it comes to conspiracy theories but I don't find it out of the realm of possibilities if Epstein was indeed planted as an intelligence gathering resource as part of some special access program. His background is also pretty peculiar from math teacher with no college background to maintaining a hedge funds exclusively for billionaires out of nowhere(a very small, selected circle) and he only had one major client that was actually known. Epstein's former non-prosecution deal was also made possible with the U.S. attorney Alexander Acosta reeled in by 'someone above his pay grade' which Acosta confessed during a Trump confirmation hearing that Epstein was an intelligence asset. Epstein could have also been a double agent working for mossad as well. So it might as well be foreign intelligence responsible for his 'suicide'.
 
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I feel the simplest solution is that Epstein wanted to do himself in rather than face prison and whatever guards he had were happy to enable him, either for a payout or just for the satisfaction of knowing a child rapist was dead. As with all conspiracies, going to want evidence before I believe them
 
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Dirty Hipsters said:
Smart people - "The CIA killed him because they had been using him to gather blackmail on all of the rich super-elite and the moment he started talking it would have made those materials worthless for blackmailing purposes. Blackmail only works if people don't know about it."
This is the most likely scenario.

...Or rather, the CIA/intelligence agencies threatened to do horrible tortuous things to him if he went to trial, ensured that the materials needed for him to kill himself were available, and then paid the guards to look the other way and let the problem take care of itself.
 

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Palindromemordnilap said:
I feel the simplest solution is that Epstein wanted to do himself in rather than face prison and whatever guards he had were happy to enable him, either for a payout or just for the satisfaction of knowing a child rapist was dead. As with all conspiracies, going to want evidence before I believe them
Oh I agree completely. I do think however, if there is more documentation that could implicate powerful figures that they will do anything and everything within their powers to destroy it or get their hands on it. Who know, Epstein was such a freak, he could have taped everything for future viewing and have it stashed somewhere for all we know. There is no telling what is out there really with everything that went on and the sheer amount of this that supposedly occurred over the years and the numerous wealthy people he involved himself with. According to the depositions we have already though, he was not the only person involved with sexually abusing underage girls so I am sure more names will come up in this than already have.
 
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Lil devils x said:
Palindromemordnilap said:
I feel the simplest solution is that Epstein wanted to do himself in rather than face prison and whatever guards he had were happy to enable him, either for a payout or just for the satisfaction of knowing a child rapist was dead. As with all conspiracies, going to want evidence before I believe them
Oh I agree completely. I do think however, if there is more documentation that could implicate powerful figures that they will do anything and everything within their powers to destroy it or get their hands on it. Who know, Epstein was such a freak, he could have taped everything for future viewing and have it stashed somewhere for all we know. There is no telling what is out there really with everything that went on and the sheer amount of this that supposedly occurred over the years and the numerous wealthy people he involved himself with.
If he had stashed some implicating documentation though, surely killing him would be the worst thing to do? Not like its going to kill the investigation, might even increase it depending on how suspicious they find the death. And if you've got enough clout to have a guy assassinated in his jail cell you've got enough to have some evidence quietly vanished so Epstein's claims go unfounded and weaken his case
 

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Lil devils x said:
Saelune said:
I find it funny that right-wingers think we worship Bill Clinton. But then, many right-wingers often tell me how it surprises them how consistent I am in my views. Like, you know you don't HAVE to be a hypocrite, right?

If Bill is one of Epstein's pedo friends, he should go to jail too, along with Trump and whoever else.
They should, but you and I both know they won't.
The problem is waiting for a corrupt system to un-corrupt itself.