[Politics] Trump and Concentration Camps

[Saelune]

Right-wingers like to blame Obama for this, but ya know, Trump, for a guy who's life goal seems to be to undo every single thing Obama has anything to do with, why is THIS the one thing he wont undo?

Oh right, cause he is a racist despot who is perfectly fine with TORTURING children. Oh and whatever hand Obama had in this, which is not as big a one as right-wingers say, Trump made it beyond worse. Trump turned it into torture camps for children.

Trump could end this, and he doesn't. Because Trump likes torturing children.

These children deserve to be liberated from this tyranny.

We consider the Allied Forces who invaded Germany and Poland to violently destroy Nazi Camps as heroes. (We also celebrate July 4th as a holiday of telling an evil tyrant to go fuck himself and violently rebel)

That is history most of us CELEBRATE.

 

[Marik2]

Welcome back

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

Hi Saelune. Bienvenido. Getting right back into the thick of it, I see.

 

[Saelune]

Hi Saelune. Bienvenido. Getting right back into the thick of it, I see.

I may have been suspended for two weeks, but Trump wasn't.

 

[Bedinsis]

Shouldn't the thread title be marked with a [Politics]?

EDIT: It appears either Saelune or a mod or both agrees with me.

 

[Marik2]

Shouldn't the thread title be marked with a [Politics]?

She wanted to post her thread as fast as possible.

 

[Baffle]

She isn't wrong though.

I've heard the 'but Obama' response plenty of times (though they're all a little light on detail), but mistakes in the past don't make it okay to keep doing it in the present. Situations pretty shocking by all accounts (well, not all accounts, there's plenty of people who enjoy lying).

 

[Batou667]

Now that's what you call hitting the ground running.

 

[Leg End]

Well, been an interesting two weeks.

Saelune, do you support the use of violence to close down these 'Concentration Camps'? Or for most things? Be real with me here.

 

[Saelune]

Well, been an interesting two weeks.

Saelune, do you support the use of violence to close down these 'Concentration Camps'? Or for most things? Be real with me here.

Do you support Trump's use of concentration camps?

 

[Saelune]

Now that's what you call hitting the ground running.

I have no interest in talking about cooked steak.

 

[Leg End]

Do you support Trump's use of concentration camps?

They have to be such a thing to begin with. Do I think the conditions need to be improved? Yes. Do I think people should be dragging kids across a desert wasteland in the first place? No. Can you answer my question now? I'd say answer it in private if you really don't want to say it aloud, but you don't want private correspondence.

 

[Saelune]

Do you support Trump's use of concentration camps?

They have to be such a thing to begin with. Do I think the conditions need to be improved? Yes. Do I think people should be dragging kids across a desert wasteland in the first place? No. Can you answer my question now? I'd say answer it in private if you really don't want to say it aloud, but you don't want private correspondence.

Do you think they deserve soap and toothpaste?

 

[Leg End]

Do you think they deserve soap and toothpaste?

Sure. If I answer your questions, will you answer mine?

 

[Marik2]

Do you support Trump's use of concentration camps?

They have to be such a thing to begin with. Do I think the conditions need to be improved? Yes. Do I think people should be dragging kids across a desert wasteland in the first place? No. Can you answer my question now? I'd say answer it in private if you really don't want to say it aloud, but you don't want private correspondence.

People have to cross a desert with their kids, since there is no support(economic or family) in their country to begin with.

 

[Saelune]

Do you think they deserve soap and toothpaste?

Sure. If I answer your questions, will you answer mine?

I support an end to these concentration camps. And I am also told that you aren't allowed to infer things, according to the 'totally not racist' people I often argue with. So you have to just take my word.

Now, are you ok with Trump not giving these children soap and toothpaste? Will you vote for him if he doesn't fix this?

 

[Leg End]

People have to cross a desert with their kids, since there is no support(economic or family) in their country to begin with.

A plight I can understand. My problem is that the issue needs to be fixed in Mexico. Letting the infection continue does nothing to help. Preferably antibiotics would be coming in the form of lead for cartel members, delivered at high-velocity.
We're in the neighborhood of people seeking permanent residence here and many not caring about our immigration laws in the process. If we were talking about a roof while hosing down the cartels, that'd be a different ballgame.

I support an end to these concentration camps. And I am also told that you aren't allowed to infer things, according to the 'totally not racist' people I often argue with. So you have to just take my word.

Guess I'll have to, with your hesitance to state elsewhere.

Now, are you ok with Trump not giving these children soap and toothpaste?

Nope. I'd rather the centers were a bit better staffed and were better supplied. And maybe some lynchings for the touchy-feely employees.

Will you vote for him if he doesn't fix this?

Well, it'd certainly be filed into my folder of grievances. Problem is, I don't exactly feel like his competition would actually give a damn either, considering the above. 'Obama dun did it too' is getting pretty old, but it simply points out how the only reason anyone cares about it is that Donald is at the helm. Frankly, I think we might get more done on the matter with the Cheeto in Chief than without. But time will tell. For now, we simply have more and more people flooding across the border with children in tow and the issues with them coming in and the problems back in Mexico are not getting better.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Hi Saelune. Bienvenido. Getting right back into the thick of it, I see.

I may have been suspended for two weeks, but Trump wasn't.

If it's any consolation, I am quite sure that if Trump ever posted on this forum, he would be banned in short order for rules violations.

 

[Saelune]

People have to cross a desert with their kids, since there is no support(economic or family) in their country to begin with.

A plight I can understand. My problem is that the issue needs to be fixed in Mexico. Letting the infection continue does nothing to help. Preferably antibiotics would be coming in the form of lead for cartel members, delivered at high-velocity.
We're in the neighborhood of people seeking permanent residence here and many not caring about our immigration laws in the process. If we were talking about a roof while hosing down the cartels, that'd be a different ballgame.

I support an end to these concentration camps. And I am also told that you aren't allowed to infer things, according to the 'totally not racist' people I often argue with. So you have to just take my word.

Guess I'll have to, with your hesitance to state elsewhere.

Now, are you ok with Trump not giving these children soap and toothpaste?

Nope. I'd rather the centers were a bit better staffed and were better supplied. And maybe some lynchings for the touchy-feely employees.

Will you vote for him if he doesn't fix this?

Well, it'd certainly be filed into my folder of grievances. Problem is, I don't exactly feel like his competition would actually give a damn either, considering the above. 'Obama dun did it too' is getting pretty old, but it simply points out how the only reason anyone cares about it is that Donald is at the helm. Frankly, I think we might get more done on the matter with the Cheeto in Chief than without. But time will tell. For now, we simply have more and more people flooding across the border with children in tow and the issues with them coming in and the problems back in Mexico are not getting better.

See, you are very strongly right-wing with your views on Immigration, I do not think you will deny that at all.

You also claimed Trump's camps are not of the Nazi variety, so then you should actually like Obama's version, the one that was meant to curb immigration, but not torturing children and not seperating the families. If anything, maybe you should be realizing you like Obama more than you realized and that the 'actually right-wing Democrats' are more your flavor.

I mean, I keep hearing you and CM claim that Trump did things you dont like, but you both still support him. If you take away all the things you 'dont like' about Trump, well, what are you left with? What is different between that and Democrats?

 

[Saelune]

Hi Saelune. Bienvenido. Getting right back into the thick of it, I see.

I may have been suspended for two weeks, but Trump wasn't.

If it's any consolation, I am quite sure that if Trump ever posted on this forum, he would be banned in short order for rules violations.

Feel free to respond to my recent response to Leg End too.