[Politics] When Your Background matters more than Your Crime: NJ Judge goes easy on Rape Case

Agema

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Fieldy409 said:
I normally love Australia for it's easier prison sentences than America but I wish pedos got longer. Guy is pretty wealthy too owning a small business, he had a lot of local churches defending him and trying to hush us like we'd go to a new church and he had them too. I dunno if he bribed them or they blackmailed tithe money out of him but they all defended him and gaslight my family for saying he wasn't a victim until Dad went off his head at a minister and they kicked us out of church and that was the start of me becoming atheist.
I've heard of similar cases - one worse where the church minister knew of the abuse, and willingly helped protect the abuser, considering him to be a pillar of the community.

Churches, like any organisation or community, tend to protect their own. People considered in good standing by a church - particularly its ministers, people who do a lot of voluntary work for it, and charitable donors - are likely to be defended. In a sense you can see why: if someone at face value has done good things for another, that other will be inclined to view them favourably. This also extends to potentially giving them too much support when it turns out they have skeletons in the closet.

I normally love Australia for it's easier prison sentences than America but I wish pedos got longer.
It varies in severity like many things. Some may just people who unwisely got frisky with someone moderately underage (e.g. 14-15) but wouldn't make a habit of it. However, I think there certainly are deeply unpleasant and pathological paedophiles that can reasonably be locked away for a l-o-n-g time.

CM156 said:
I wouldn't say "immature" so much as "primal" or "base." It appeals to part of our emotions that demand that blood be paid in blood.
I hear you, but I think a major part of adulthood is not giving in to such primal urges - although I would give victims and those close to them much more leeway. But for your average internet denizen, some of these responses seem to me particularly childish: petty overreactions of frustration or disgust, often with fantasies of vengeful torment.
 

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Agema said:
I hear you, but I think a major part of adulthood is not giving in to such primal urges - although I would give victims and those close to them much more leeway. But for your average internet denizen, some of these responses seem to me particularly childish: petty overreactions of frustration or disgust, often with fantasies of vengeful torment.
Yeah I think its not a good mindset how everyone wants to kill pedos and delight in talking about torturing them. I have no proof of this, but I have a theory that pedo's might be more likely to seek help if they didn't feel like everyone wanted to murder them.

I mean if a person has not raped a child yet, if they had I hate them too, but imagine you were personally attracted to kids, would you say anything? Fuck no everyone talks in detail about how they want to brutally torture the pedos to death it would be terrifying. And without seeking help your pedophile urgings might get worse when maybe a bit of therapy could have helped make you more normal and harmless.

But I really do want pedophiles who have crossed the line gone for a long time or maybe forever and kept away from children of course.
 

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Fieldy409 said:
Agema said:
I hear you, but I think a major part of adulthood is not giving in to such primal urges - although I would give victims and those close to them much more leeway. But for your average internet denizen, some of these responses seem to me particularly childish: petty overreactions of frustration or disgust, often with fantasies of vengeful torment.
Yeah I think its not a good mindset how everyone wants to kill pedos and delight in talking about torturing them. I have no proof of this, but I have a theory that pedo's might be more likely to seek help if they didn't feel like everyone wanted to murder them.

I mean if a person has not raped a child yet, if they had I hate them too, but imagine you were personally attracted to kids, would you say anything? Fuck no everyone talks in detail about how they want to brutally torture the pedos to death it would be terrifying. And without seeking help your pedophile urgings might get worse when maybe a bit of therapy could have helped make you more normal and harmless.

But I really do want pedophiles who have crossed the line gone for a long time or maybe forever and kept away from children of course.
I think the lack of actual mental health services and rehabilitation made available is a strong deterrent for someone seeking help with their issues as well as and extremely broken and corrupt justice system in the US makes this worse, rather than better. Extremely violent predators are given access to victims to torture, abuse and kill while in prison in addition to having corrupt and abusive people working there resulting in making it a harmful environment to everyone involved. They fail miserably at rehabilitation and many come out worse than when they went in because they instead foster a system of abuse. Often the people " guarding" the prisoners are just as abusive as the prisoners themselves and likely should be in prison rather than guarding them due to their own actions. The US mental hospitals are often just s abusive and frightening. The people attracted to working these positions are often predators themselves, so in reality, there is often no one for those seeking actual help existing in their area that will actually provide the help they need.
 

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Fieldy409 said:
...but I have a theory that pedo's might be more likely to seek help if they didn't feel like everyone wanted to murder them.
I'm sure some of them do, and I suspect social isolation is likely to make them less likely to function well in society. On the other hand, I'm equally sure some of them don't want help, and are well beyond therapy.