Poll: 2011 GOTY?

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LA Noire. Well I am hoping that it turns out to be another GTA IV not another RDR (such a fucking dissapointment).
Interesting. I'm at least as excited for the game as you are no doubt, but I would flip flop the two games there.

But opinionslol am I right?
 

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LA Noire, Skyrim, and Portal 2 would be my guess for possible winners. Mass Effect 3 and Minecraft would be guesses at making a top 5 (though a indie snub wouldn't surprise me). Arkhum City could easily get into the nominees list, as could quite a few others that will come out much later, but I struggle to imagine they would be capable of beating Portal 2, which I would argue is the bar to beat currently.

However, an open world cowboy game won last year. I expect the unexpected.
 

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I say that unless Naughty Dog shits the bed something fierce, UC3 is a shoe in. UC2 was a rare, flawless game that had BOTH amazing single and multiplayer. If UC3 is even close to that quality it will rape the rest of this year's crop. The only real threat is if Mass Effect 3 has multiplayer as well as an equally good SP. Have high hopes for Brink though as well. It's a long shot but if it's as cool as it looks, and UC3 is not as good as 2, then just maybe.
 

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Black Ops: call of the dead: freddie, buffy etc, I know it's dlc, but hey it'll be the first game i've seen where you can shoot George Romero dead again. Or buffy gets nailed by a zombie threesome.

Rage, lets face it Bethseda have been red hot (excluding new vegas which technically is obsidian anyway) a mixture of borderlands, fallout and the running man gets my vote.

Skyrim; looking forward to it, but for the porn title, any form of rim, should remain in the adult section.
 

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LetalisK said:
Mikeyfell said:
By this logic many JRPGs, MMOs, strategy games, racing games, fighting games, and sports games are also frauds. Or I could go with the explanation that companies have found set ups that a certain contingent of players enjoy and will pay for games using similar set ups, thus the company produces more of those games so there really is no actual fraud involved. But that would make too much sense. My personal taste is LAW. DOWN WITH JRPGS!
Sports, racing and fighting games are all like that
Strategy games usually have vastly different play stiles. You wouldn't say Starcraft is a clone of Civilization.
JRPG's have unique stories (that all involve androgynous teenagers killing god) But they're all different in one way or another. it's easy to tell the difference between Final Fantasy 7 and Tales of the Abyss.
Making an MMO that's not WOW has got to be the dumbest thing a developer can do. (No Bioware, don't do it!)

But new developers flooding the market with anything other than FPS clones


It's not like I'm saying "I don't like FPS so they shouldn't exist."
My rant is closer to "FPS games are guaranteed huge profits so that's the only thing developers make."
Everyone's making CoD or GoW knockoffs in the name of a quick buck INSTEAD of innovating.

If there was some innovation in the AAA market developers could knock themselves out making shitty insubstantial FPS games but more and more devs are migrating towards CoD than away from it.
 

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Mikeyfell said:
If there was some innovation in the AAA market developers could knock themselves out making shitty insubstantial FPS games but more and more devs are migrating towards CoD than away from it.
If that's what consumers want, then give it to them. When they get tired of it, they'll come up with something new. Just because you don't like what those consumers like doesn't make the developers bad for tailoring their games to that audience.
 

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LetalisK said:
Mikeyfell said:
If there was some innovation in the AAA market developers could knock themselves out making shitty insubstantial FPS games but more and more devs are migrating towards CoD than away from it.
If that's what consumers want, then give it to them. When they get tired of it, they'll come up with something new. Just because you don't like what those consumers like doesn't make the developers bad for tailoring their games to that audience.
Your point is broken.
I am part of that consumer base, am I the only one that wants something interesting in a game?

Does it bother you that 90% of all the games available on the 360 can be described as either "sequel" or "clone" or "rushed out cash-in"

I Mean look at the quarter 1 predictions for Game of the Year

Portal 2=Sequel
Minecraft=knockoff
Mass Effect 3=knockoff and sequel
Uncharted 3=knockoff and sequel of a knockoff
Killzone 3=knockoff and sequel
Dragon Age 2=sequel and rushed out cash-in
Battlefield 3=sequel and knockoff

even the more popular wright-ins

L.A. Noire= knockoff
Skyrim= sequel
Batman Arkham City= Sequel
All of them are sequels except for Catherine and I honestly couldn't tell you what that game's about. I'm looking forward to playing it.

Do you get what I'm saying?
The games industry has stagnated and lots of the blame lies on the CoD's and the GTA's and the GoW's.
I just want to see something new for fucks sake!
 

Spencer Petersen

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Right now Portal 2 is the only one really worth remembering, most everything else so far has been completely forgettable.
 

LetalisK

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Mikeyfell said:
LetalisK said:
Mikeyfell said:
If there was some innovation in the AAA market developers could knock themselves out making shitty insubstantial FPS games but more and more devs are migrating towards CoD than away from it.
If that's what consumers want, then give it to them. When they get tired of it, they'll come up with something new. Just because you don't like what those consumers like doesn't make the developers bad for tailoring their games to that audience.
Your point is broken.
I am part of that consumer base, am I the only one that wants something interesting in a game?

.....

Do you get what I'm saying?
The games industry has stagnated and lots of the blame lies on the CoD's and the GTA's and the GoW's.
I just want to see something new for fucks sake!
That doesn't even come close to even bending my point. You're obviously not the only one who wants something new and interesting(which isn't mutually exclusive with liking sequels and "knockoffs" btw), but the demand for those other games is stronger. The games you cited are generally successful(or in the case of the non-released come from successful lines) and what people want. If they didn't, people wouldn't buy it, profits would be lost, and the developers would move on to something new. Just because it's not what you or your minority like doesn't make it bad. If you have a problem with the games being put out or the direction the industry is taking then don't buy the games, find a source that is putting out the games you like, and maybe even go make a game that is what you want. Going off on the industry and painting them as bad people, and by extension the consumers too, just makes you look bad. They are here to please as many people as possible. You aren't always going to be in that group.

Edit: And just to be crystal clear, I'm not saying you can't dislike what games the industry is putting out and want them to do something different. I am saying maligning them because of it is ridiculous.
 

Spencer Petersen

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Mikeyfell said:
LetalisK said:
Mikeyfell said:
If there was some innovation in the AAA market developers could knock themselves out making shitty insubstantial FPS games but more and more devs are migrating towards CoD than away from it.
If that's what consumers want, then give it to them. When they get tired of it, they'll come up with something new. Just because you don't like what those consumers like doesn't make the developers bad for tailoring their games to that audience.
Your point is broken.
I am part of that consumer base, am I the only one that wants something interesting in a game?

Does it bother you that 90% of all the games available on the 360 can be described as either "sequel" or "clone" or "rushed out cash-in"

I Mean look at the quarter 1 predictions for Game of the Year

Portal 2=Sequel
Minecraft=knockoff
Mass Effect 3=knockoff and sequel
Uncharted 3=knockoff and sequel of a knockoff
Killzone 3=knockoff and sequel
Dragon Age 2=sequel and rushed out cash-in
Battlefield 3=sequel and knockoff

even the more popular wright-ins

L.A. Noire= knockoff
Skyrim= sequel
Batman Arkham City= Sequel
All of them are sequels except for Catherine and I honestly couldn't tell you what that game's about. I'm looking forward to playing it.

Do you get what I'm saying?
The games industry has stagnated and lots of the blame lies on the CoD's and the GTA's and the GoW's.
I just want to see something new for fucks sake!
Some of the best games out there are sequels, as they have the benefit of refined gameplay and already defined world and characters.
Super Mario Bros 3, Legend of Zelda: OoT, Fallout 2, Morrowind, COD4, Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Street Fighter 2 (I think), Metal Gear 3, Final Fantasy 7 etc.
If you want a new IP, expect a lot of trial and error and blind faith before its gameplay can stand up to the other stuff.

The problem is when you judge the games industry like the movie industry. The more franchise oriented setup has its benefits, as the studios don't have to keep reinventing the wheel when they make their new idea. A lot of modern movies are spiritual sequels, which siphon the originality and get none of the established characters and world that accelerates the pacing.
 

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Spencer Petersen said:
Mikeyfell said:
LetalisK said:
Mikeyfell said:
If there was some innovation in the AAA market developers could knock themselves out making shitty insubstantial FPS games but more and more devs are migrating towards CoD than away from it.
If that's what consumers want, then give it to them. When they get tired of it, they'll come up with something new. Just because you don't like what those consumers like doesn't make the developers bad for tailoring their games to that audience.
Your point is broken.
I am part of that consumer base, am I the only one that wants something interesting in a game?

Does it bother you that 90% of all the games available on the 360 can be described as either "sequel" or "clone" or "rushed out cash-in"

I Mean look at the quarter 1 predictions for Game of the Year

Portal 2=Sequel
Minecraft=knockoff
Mass Effect 3=knockoff and sequel
Uncharted 3=knockoff and sequel of a knockoff
Killzone 3=knockoff and sequel
Dragon Age 2=sequel and rushed out cash-in
Battlefield 3=sequel and knockoff

even the more popular wright-ins

L.A. Noire= knockoff
Skyrim= sequel
Batman Arkham City= Sequel
All of them are sequels except for Catherine and I honestly couldn't tell you what that game's about. I'm looking forward to playing it.

Do you get what I'm saying?
The games industry has stagnated and lots of the blame lies on the CoD's and the GTA's and the GoW's.
I just want to see something new for fucks sake!
Some of the best games out there are sequels, as they have the benefit of refined gameplay and already defined world and characters.
Super Mario Bros 3, Legend of Zelda: OoT, Fallout 2, Morrowind, COD4, Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Street Fighter 2 (I think), Metal Gear 3, Final Fantasy 7 etc.
If you want a new IP, expect a lot of trial and error and blind faith before its gameplay can stand up to the other stuff.

The problem is when you judge the games industry like the movie industry. The more franchise oriented setup has its benefits, as the studios don't have to keep reinventing the wheel when they make their new idea. A lot of modern movies are spiritual sequels, which siphon the originality and get none of the established characters and world that accelerates the pacing.
Who's talking about movies?

The sequels I'm ripping on are the identical sequels.
Wasn't OoT the first 3D Zelda game?
Plus I'm reluctant to call anything with an engaging story a knockoff. For instance Mass Effect and Gears of War play similarly if they're muted. But the writing and story in Mass Effect keep it interesting while the writing and story in Gears of War induce vomiting.

If one of those CoD knockoffs had writing worth giving a shit about it would be worth playing.
But for all the thought those devs put in to their game's story you might as well just mute the dialog and play "America Fuck Yeah!" in the background.

Some of the best games are sequels. Technically Prince of Persia Sands of Time is just a reboot.
I don't care about how recycled any particular IP is just so long as there's INNOVATION or IMPROVEMENT

There is none of either in any of the myriad of CoD knockoffs and sequels that have ever come out. and yet they consistently make more money than god.
 

Mikeyfell

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LetalisK said:
The games you cited are generally successful(or in the case of the non-released come from successful lines) and what people want.
The games I cited are all similar to one game that was popular and people are stupid enough to pay for it every single time it's offered.
Is Battlefield Bad Company 2 better than Modern Warfare? No. Did everyone buy B:BC 2 anyway? Yes.
Guaranteed profits for minimum effort inevitably leads to stagnation, which is what we're seeing now.

Just because it's not what you or your minority like doesn't make it bad.
I think it's bad for the entire human race when only a minority wants innovation.
I know we're only talking about videogames but if an entire generation gets programed to seek out repetition and stagnation for the sake of entertainment human evolution is doomed.

find a source that is putting out the games you like, Going off on the industry and painting them as bad people, and by extension the consumers too, just makes you look bad.
Yes bashing someone for heartless profiteering is ridiculous.
Those poor misunderstood Enron executives.

I will admit that I've been spoiled by high production values. Seeking out independently developed games just doesn't seem all that appealing to me. I like high resolution graphics and Dolby sound and that third dimension thing.

Epic Games or Infinity Ward should just give some Indy developers $1,000,000,000 and tell them to spruce up their games. I mean they can afford it.

They are here to please as many people as possible. You aren't always going to be in that group.
You honestly believe that they're trying to please anyone?
They're not just trying to make as much money as possible?
 

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Dead Island...IF it gets released this year. The prospect of a zombie orientated first person melee brawl over a vast and stunning looking free roaming island just makes me want to jump around and sing with glee. That is of course if they ever release the damn game ¬_¬
 

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Mikeyfell said:
LetalisK said:
The games you cited are generally successful(or in the case of the non-released come from successful lines) and what people want.
The games I cited are all similar to one game that was popular and people are stupid enough to pay for it every single time it's offered.
Is Battlefield Bad Company 2 better than Modern Warfare? No. Did everyone buy B:BC 2 anyway? Yes.
Guaranteed profits for minimum effort inevitably leads to stagnation, which is what we're seeing now.

Just because it's not what you or your minority like doesn't make it bad.
I think it's bad for the entire human race when only a minority wants innovation.
I know we're only talking about videogames but if an entire generation gets programed to seek out repetition and stagnation for the sake of entertainment human evolution is doomed.

find a source that is putting out the games you like, Going off on the industry and painting them as bad people, and by extension the consumers too, just makes you look bad.
Yes bashing someone for heartless profiteering is ridiculous.
Those poor misunderstood Enron executives.

I will admit that I've been spoiled by high production values. Seeking out independently developed games just doesn't seem all that appealing to me. I like high resolution graphics and Dolby sound and that third dimension thing.

Epic Games or Infinity Ward should just give some Indy developers $1,000,000,000 and tell them to spruce up their games. I mean they can afford it.

They are here to please as many people as possible. You aren't always going to be in that group.
You honestly believe that they're trying to please anyone?
They're not just trying to make as much money as possible?
Pleasing as many people as possible and making money are not mutually exclusive, you know.
 

Mikeyfell

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Trolldor said:
Pleasing as many people as possible and making money are not mutually exclusive, you know.
Two things not being mutually exclusive doesn't automatically mean they happen together, you know.