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BallPtPenTheif

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Larenxis post=18.68953.645928 said:
I wouldn't say discipline is the issue, but I'm a real hippie when it comes to children. The school BallPtPenTheif mentioned seems like the worst place for a child like that to be in.
i'm sure it seems that way but the reality of the situation is that these kids are there because they pose a physical danger to people and themselves. the restraint method is not done in anger or even in an excessicely threatening way. they just firmly and calmly restrain them until their episode passes.

my friend who works there is a stoic guy, nothing gets him angry and from what he explained they screen for patient, well tempered people who can physically handle themselves. you could literally kick him in the junk and he wouldn't get emotionally upset with you.
 

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Its all really bullsh*t, ADD and ADHD are just made up things so that doctors can sell their drugs to kids that are just eating too much sugar and are bored at school. (I just described my own case, was never on meds though)
 

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they are both fake diseases that parents forced doctors to invent cause they can't control their crotchfruit by being real parents
 

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I think that simply writing off ADD as a made up disorder of the 1990 (even though it entered the DSM in the 1960's and had been recognized in psychiatric literature decades before that) is as ignorant and as bad as saying "Everyone has it!" So it appears to be very common. So what? So are allergies and asthma, but that doesn't mean they are made up, or a plot by the drug companies to sell us stuff we don't need. Just because you can't see my brain "sneezing and wheezing" doesn't mean it's not happening. Yes, I have been diagnosed with ADD - as an adult two decades removed from school, and I'm pretty sure at this point parental discipline isn't a factor. As for the diet and exercize "cure", I was a professional cook, studied natural medicine, and walked 4 miles a day every day and still had it. No, it's not cosmetic psychopharmacology, any more than taking daily allergy or asthma medicine is cosmetic immunology. It's just the thing that finally allowed me to stop beating my head against an invisible wall for 30+ years.
 

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Well I have Tourette's(no I DON'T blurt out random obsenitys, I just have a physical tic)
and for some odd reason people assume I have A.D.D or A.D.H.D.
 

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mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646162 said:
I think that simply writing off ADD as a made up disorder of the 1990 (even though it entered the DSM in the 1960's and had been recognized in psychiatric literature decades before that) is as ignorant and as bad as saying "Everyone has it!" So it appears to be very common. So what? So are allergies and asthma, but that doesn't mean they are made up, or a plot by the drug companies to sell us stuff we don't need. Just because you can't see my brain "sneezing and wheezing" doesn't mean it's not happening. Yes, I have been diagnosed with ADD - as an adult two decades removed from school, and I'm pretty sure at this point parental discipline isn't a factor. As for the diet and exercize "cure", I was a professional cook, studied natural medicine, and walked 4 miles a day every day and still had it. No, it's not cosmetic psychopharmacology, any more than taking daily allergy or asthma medicine is cosmetic immunology. It's just the thing that finally allowed me to stop beating my head against an invisible wall for 30+ years.
No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.
 

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Bulletinmybrain post=18.68953.646240 said:
mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646162 said:
No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.
I could go on and on about how that's definitely no better than being too lenient, but I won't, because it would be extremely off-topic.
 

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Lvl 64 Klutz post=18.68953.646305 said:
Bulletinmybrain post=18.68953.646240 said:
mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646162 said:
No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.
I could go on and on about how that's definitely no better than being too lenient, but I won't, because it would be extremely off-topic.
Sure its not better off for the person, My dads an asshole and I forgive him since he trys so hard compared to my brother. But still I havn't did anythign to land me in with the police because I kinda like sitting on my ass not in pain.
 

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Bulletinmybrain post=18.68953.646413 said:
Lvl 64 Klutz post=18.68953.646305 said:
Bulletinmybrain post=18.68953.646240 said:
mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646162 said:
No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.
I could go on and on about how that's definitely no better than being too lenient, but I won't, because it would be extremely off-topic.
Sure its not better off for the person, My dads an asshole and I forgive him since he trys so hard compared to my brother. But still I havn't did anythign to land me in with the police because I kinda like sitting on my ass not in pain.
Indeed, but that's rare. As you mentioned, you made sure he didn't find out about anything bad you did. People with parents like that will *usually* go and get themselves in all kinds of jams anyway, but there parents won't ever know about it. Anyway, that's enough about proper parenting, considering I wouldn't know a thing about it apart from my opinion.
 

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Lvl 64 Klutz post=18.68953.646429 said:
Bulletinmybrain post=18.68953.646413 said:
Lvl 64 Klutz post=18.68953.646305 said:
Bulletinmybrain post=18.68953.646240 said:
mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646162 said:
No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.
I could go on and on about how that's definitely no better than being too lenient, but I won't, because it would be extremely off-topic.
Sure its not better off for the person, My dads an asshole and I forgive him since he trys so hard compared to my brother. But still I havn't did anythign to land me in with the police because I kinda like sitting on my ass not in pain.
Indeed, but that's rare. As you mentioned, you made sure he didn't find out about anything bad you did. People with parents like that will *usually* go and get themselves in all kinds of jams anyway, but there parents won't ever know about it. Anyway, that's enough about proper parenting, considering I wouldn't know a thing about it apart from my opinion.
Eh, We can't all be saints jerry.(Cookie for who gets the refrence.)

Also its better to be smart and break the law, Then stupid and get caught and then the parents bail you out anyway and then give you a stern talking to which the kid will probably fall asleep too.
 

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Some-one, a Dr i think, told my parents that I have A.D.D but what do they No!
Whoa, I'm watching Tv at the mo and they've actually found something interesting on Time Team.......errr, What was the Question again ?
 

mshcherbatskaya

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Bulletinmybrain post=18.68953.646240 said:
mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646162 said:
Blah blah blah, I'm a lovely, special snowflake with ADD.
No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.
You may have a thing against kids who don't get beaten enough, but that's not what everyone else is saying. Everyone else is saying ADD doesn't exist. I'm saying that's a very uninformed view of the disorder.
 

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Act of God post=18.68953.644773 said:
I'll do you one better, I don't just have ADD, I have ADHD, that's Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder for the laymen in the room.
Same here....and it is a BLESSING!

I can go DAYS without sleep without any ill effects.

MInd you though....I never took drugs for it and I never will.

Also people need to realize that the medical profession now declairs ADD and ADHD as a normal part of our evolution now. It is no longer a disorder or anything to be afraid of.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646489 said:
Bulletinmybrain post=18.68953.646240 said:
mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646162 said:
Blah blah blah, I'm a lovely, special snowflake with ADD.
No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.
You may have a thing against kids who don't get beaten enough, but that's not what everyone else is saying. Everyone else is saying ADD doesn't exist. I'm saying that's a very uninformed view of the disorder.
It doesn't, The parents not punishing their kids for say, Burning down a house because they 'supposedly' have ADD is retarded. The kid broke a crime, Teach him better and beat there ass if all else fails.
 

mshcherbatskaya

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Digikid post=18.68953.646503 said:
Act of God post=18.68953.644773 said:
I'll do you one better, I don't just have ADD, I have ADHD, that's Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder for the laymen in the room.
Same here....and it is a BLESSING!

I can go DAYS without sleep without any ill effects.

MInd you though....I never took drugs for it and I never will.

Also people need to realize that the medical profession now declairs ADD and ADHD as a normal part of our evolution now. It is no longer a disorder or anything to be afraid of.
Could you please post a link to that statement by the medical profession? I would really be interested in seeing it.

I was joking with my mom about the evolutionary uses of ADHD. If we were hunter-gatherers living in the rain forest or out in the grasslands, people who tend to stay awake at night and are really sensitive to movement and noises are the perfect ones to put on watch.

In real life, knowing what's going on and getting treatment has helped me harness a huge amount of energy which was totally undirected before. It's kind of amazing how much I have to use now that I'm not fighting to control it.
 

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Bulletinmybrain post=18.68953.646511 said:
mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646489 said:
Bulletinmybrain post=18.68953.646240 said:
mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646162 said:
Blah blah blah, I'm a lovely, special snowflake with ADD.
No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.
You may have a thing against kids who don't get beaten enough, but that's not what everyone else is saying. Everyone else is saying ADD doesn't exist. I'm saying that's a very uninformed view of the disorder.
It doesn't, The parents not punishing their kids for say, Burning down a house because they 'supposedly' have ADD is retarded. The kid broke a crime, Teach him better and beat there ass if all else fails.
ADD being wrongly diagnosed by people who are not qualified to do so doesn't mean the disorder doesn't exist. And yes, I think the "troublemaker" stereotype of ADD leads to a lot of mis-diagnosis and missed diagnosis. But this does not mean it doesn't exist.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646565 said:
Bulletinmybrain post=18.68953.646511 said:
mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646489 said:
Bulletinmybrain post=18.68953.646240 said:
mshcherbatskaya post=18.68953.646162 said:
Blah blah blah, I'm a lovely, special snowflake with ADD.
No, We have things against kids that supposedly have A.D.D. And well the kids are just assholes who the parent don't beat enough. My dad scared the shit out of me and guess what? I never did anything stupid. If I did anything then I made damn well he did not find out.
You may have a thing against kids who don't get beaten enough, but that's not what everyone else is saying. Everyone else is saying ADD doesn't exist. I'm saying that's a very uninformed view of the disorder.
It doesn't, The parents not punishing their kids for say, Burning down a house because they 'supposedly' have ADD is retarded. The kid broke a crime, Teach him better and beat there ass if all else fails.
ADD being wrongly diagnosed by people who are not qualified to do so doesn't mean the disorder doesn't exist. And yes, I think the "troublemaker" stereotype of ADD leads to a lot of mis-diagnosis and missed diagnosis. But this does not mean it doesn't exist.
Eh, How about we agree to disagree on this matter and keep this thread civil?
 

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*leaps on to the "Not a problem" band wagon*

I don't believe there is a disorder that causes people's attention spans to be shorter and if there is I believe it should be cald L.A.P.S. otherwise known as Lazy-Ass Parents syndrome.
 

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The Potato Lord post=18.68953.646618 said:
*leaps on to the "Not a problem" band wagon*

I don't believe there is a disorder that causes people's attention spans to be shorter and if there is I believe it should be cald L.A.P.S. otherwise known as Lazy-Ass Parents syndrome.
Lol so true i was diagnosed with a.d.d. at 7.Then moved in with my dad...5 ass woopins later i payed attention.