Poll: A List of Problems in the Gaming Community That Make Me Rage

[MiracleOfSound]

People who call Halo: Reach's story awful or shit really drive me crazy. Bungie delivers a story WELL in one of their games for once, with tons of great moments, more human characters, and in an interesting time in the Halo universe. The game tries, and I think succeeds, in pulling on the heart strings of its audience. It shoots for something with good posture, and still people dismiss it as garbage. Lowest of the low. It's just stupid.

I enjoyed Reach but I felt they could have done it better to be honest.

Take Jorge for example... great character but we only get 2 short cut-scenes where we see his personality come through. The characters were good but underdeveloped which made it harder to care about them.

Compare that to recent games like Mafia 2 or Red Dead Redemption that have deep, complex, characters like Bonnie, John and Joe, and it's hard not to feel a little underwhelmed.

 

[Naota_391]

People who call Halo: Reach's story awful or shit really drive me crazy. Bungie delivers a story WELL in one of their games for once, with tons of great moments, more human characters, and in an interesting time in the Halo universe. The game tries, and I think succeeds, in pulling on the heart strings of its audience. It shoots for something with good posture, and still people dismiss it as garbage. Lowest of the low. It's just stupid.

I enjoyed Reach but I felt they could have done it better to be honest.

Take Jorge for example... great character but we only get 2 short cut-scenes where we see his personality come through. The characters were good but underdeveloped which made it harder to care about them.

Compare that to recent games like Mafia 2 or Red Dead Redemption that have deep, complex, characters like Bonnie, John and Joe, and it's hard not to feel a little underwhelmed.

Fair enough, but consider the settings and timelines of each game. In Reach, we're with these guys for just a couple of days. In Mafia 2 or Red Dead Redemption, how much time do we spend with these characters? Days? Nights? Weeks? There's plenty of time and plenty of opportunity for the stories of these characters to come out in daily interaction. There's time in the world for us to learn more about John Marston without it feeling forced or rushed. Not only that, but these guys have homes to go back to. They're running around towns, and they have time to chill and chat about things. It's a little hard to have conversations like that when you're at the forefront of the battle and trying to save a planet that is literally being invaded and destroyed with each passing moment.

A more fundamental thing that, unfortunately, only actual Halo-lore fans will understand is that Spartans aren't really like normal humans. Not even speaking in terms of physical strength and ability, but in behavior and socializing. These guys are hardened soldiers. They serve for life. If they're Spartan-II's, they started training when they were just little kids, kidnapped from their homes. A lot of them grew up together, and being raised strictly in a military sense, the way they interact isn't so full of chit-chat. As a Spartan, you don't have a certain amount of time of service. When you get in that program, you're in it until you go "MIA".

I don't know. Maybe it's lame, but having read a lot of the novels, I could completely understand the reason the Spartans were the way they were.

 

[Naota_391]

I was actually referring to people bitching about how Cole didn't have a buzz cut in Infamous 2.

So... you mean the petty complaints then

Like the way everyone is freaking out over the fact that Dante is now an emo teenager.

C'mon, there's totally something to be said about that. Don't tell me you actually want some Twilight in your Devil May Cry?

But being serious, I think it's totally viable for fans of a game to voice out what they're disappointed in. For Cole, I heard a lot of people saw that character and just didn't feel like it was him. At all. It wans't just the hair, it was his demeanor. He wasn't anything like the Cole they'd come to know, and for that to arbitrarily change all of a sudden is kind of weird.

 

[Canid117]

I was actually referring to people bitching about how Cole didn't have a buzz cut in Infamous 2.

So... you mean the petty complaints then

Like the way everyone is freaking out over the fact that Dante is now an emo teenager.

Pretty much. Though Dante I can somewhat understand because he is fuck ugly. I am talking about people bitching because a character is slightly different from their preconceptions. Another example would be the people bitching about how Diablo 3's art style now has more colors than brown and gray.

 

[tragicdwarf]

There's a thing you're forgetting to add into account here; half of the users (if not more) on the internet, are retarded. And that's a fact.

This is so true and a very sad truth.

 

[DragonChi]

im with you on all 3 issues for sure. but another one I hear about a lot is the complaint about games that don't change and keep the same formula. basically using that reason alone to bash a game series...(i.e. Zelda). Any game you have ever heard of that has been successful in its production...KEEPS its fukn formula (for the most part) because that's what people love about it and they don't WANT it to change..at least not so drastically that you can't recognize it anymore. you don't fix what isn't broke.

This is why we play multiple games, so when we got bored of one genre...we play another for variety. This is not to say that there isn't room for minor fixes,improvements and feature tweaks to be made here and there, but past that..the games we enjoy playing aren't going to stray from what you have come to expect from them (individually speaking).

anyway..that's my rant.

 

[gamer_parent]

my beef is with the whole "hardcore/casual" elitism.

 

[DragonChi]

A massive and undeserved sense of self entitlement is my beef with the gaming community.

Sounds like someone has been around the WoW forums. I hear those guys are the absolute WORST.

You are 100% right on that. the blizzard forms are 99% whiney assholes. I stopped posting on those forums ages ago. If you try and say anything even remotely insightful or intelligent they bash the ever loving shit out of you and your ideals. its pretty weaksauce. There are only 2 forums that I have found to harbor intelligent gamers. This one and Diablo.incgamers.com. there is of course always the odd one out..but that's to be expected.

 

[Scout Tactical]

Some of us realize that forums are always going to be filled with people who whine. But that's what these places are for.

Christ, this place is the ESCAPIST. Let people get away from their lives and COMPLAIN! It relieves stress! It lightens the load! When was the last time you sat down and cried out to the world how awful your new game is? Forums let you do that anonymously and privately in your own home. Use them.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

C'mon, there's totally something to be said about that. Don't tell me you actually want some Twilight in your Devil May Cry?

To be honest, I find Dante insufferable no matter what colour his hair is.

The fact that people refer to it as a community?

The fact that you post here makes you a member of a community, like it or not.

Just curious, why does that bother you?

 

[Naota_391]

I dunno, guys. If Dante is going to spout cheesy fucking lines, I'd rather him not look like a cutout from Twilight sitting on top of a rock looking "cool" by smoking a cigarette beneath a full moon.

He can have whatever colored hair he wants. Just not that.

 

[Naota_391]

Some of us realize that forums are always going to be filled with people who whine. But that's what these places are for.

Christ, this place is the ESCAPIST. Let people get away from their lives and COMPLAIN! It relieves stress! It lightens the load! When was the last time you sat down and cried out to the world how awful your new game is? Forums let you do that anonymously and privately in your own home. Use them.

Bro, they can complain, they just need to get better at it. I ain't sayin' a fool can't come on here and say his new game is shit, I'm just saying if that fool is going to call something shit, they should be able to articulate how and why it is such.

I do believe these are skills that people could probably carry on into their everyday lives. It might even make them better people.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

It's not a community. It's just people playing games. We don't function as a community so why call it one?

If anything it's a clique.

A community can be a group of people who just share similar interests.

A clique is usually a tiny group who are quite exclusive and it conjures images of elitism (in my mind at least). With millions of gamers all over the world, I think we're too big to be a clique. A clan in MW2? Now that's a clique.

Community sounds nicer... it's more friendly.

 

[Naota_391]

The fact that people refer to it as a community?

The fact that you post here makes you a member of a community, like it or not.

Just curious, why does that bother you?

It's not a community. It's just people playing games. We don't function as a community so why call it one?

If anything it's a clique.

That's what I say at the town meetings.

 

[Naota_391]

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I find that these criticisms are the base set that humans go to when they lack the capacity to articulate how they feel about something.

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People need to get better at this. I start here with video games, but maybe being able to articulate their thoughts better will lead to better lives. A better future. A better WORLD.

I'm like a hero by doing this. No need to thank me.

 

[Chewster]

Despite my fear of being labeled a lazy thinker by the OP, I think that your first two points are an apology for an industry that is (seemingly) growing stagnant to a degree (why people try to stand up for corporations and corporate interests, I'll never know). Why should we not be critical of a medium we love? The only way it will improve is if we demand that it do so. Just because more people seem to complain online does not mean we need to stop criticizing bland, uninspired games.

And I think that whole "seven basic plotlines" nonsense is used as a way to excuse away unoriginality. Granted a lot of that is open to interpretation, but I'd like to think that stories are more complicated then that. otherwise, what the hell is the point? But this is besides the point.

Frankly, gender gentrification and rampant passive-aggressive homophobia strike me as more important issues to discuss in the grand scheme of things, but that is just me.