IBlackKiteI said:
Naota_391 said:
A more fundamental thing that, unfortunately, only actual Halo-lore fans will understand is that Spartans aren't really like normal humans. Not even speaking in terms of physical strength and ability, but in behavior and socializing. These guys are hardened soldiers. They serve for life. If they're Spartan-II's, they started training when they were just little kids, kidnapped from their homes. A lot of them grew up together, and being raised strictly in a military sense, the way they interact isn't so full of chit-chat. As a Spartan, you don't have a certain amount of time of service. When you get in that program, you're in it until you go "MIA".
Then whats the deal with the Spartan III's?
I heard that they are regular soldiers who get 'promoted' into a Spartan, but I also heard that Kat and Six are apparently in their early 20's so that wouldnt make much sense.
Damn, thats what sucks about Halo, theres this huge fleshed out world in the novels, but in the games theres...nothing really.
I need to get me some books.
OT: My main problem with the gaming community is just that, the community itself.
Anywhere you go there is just sucky people, its an unavoidable part of life and will continue to be so until every damn last one of us is burnt off the face of the Earth.
However The Escapist is generally like a damn Utopia, which is awesome.
Can't comment on the age bit since I don't know much about it, but I can tell you that while the Spartan III's will have more to show and tell, it doesn't surprise me much that they're not bubbling with emotion either.
If they're treated anything like a Spartan II (which I imagine they are, because to anyone who isn't in direct relation to the projects, I'm sure a Spartan is a Spartan is a Spartan), they're not exactly always treated the best by other soldiers. Not before the encounter with Halo, anyways. Don't get me wrong, when you see a Spartan show up on the battlefield, you're going to be pretty damn excited. Your side has a much better chance of winning when they're around. Still, most soldiers just see a suit of armor. They don't buddy-buddy with them. To be fair, I guess there's never much chance to. If a Spartan is around, there's business to take care of and it's not like you'd ever see a Spartan on the same level or chain of command as any other UNSC soldiers.
I know that the ODST's have, or at least had, a big rivalry with the Spartans. Before they showed up, the ODST's were the bad asses. They were the hot shots. When shit got bad, you sent them in. They WERE the back up. They were the final force. Not anymore, though, and so you can imagine it takes them sometime to get used to that idea. They got pretty big heads, and I guess they'e earned that right, but all the same...
But to reiterate my initial point, a Spartan's career doesn't work the same as any other soldier's. It's normal for them to be sent on what most would consider a suicide mission. I'm sure to most people not super familiar with the the lore, watching these Spartans die in Reach looked pretty tragic. It definitely was, but it's what these guys come to expect. They don't stop until they're dead, and the understand that. Until then, they do whatever they can.
Just look at Kat. She got an arm and leg blown off. Safe to say that if that happened to anyone else, that'd be the end of their military career. They'd drop out and go home after that. Regardless, you see her with two prosthetic limbs still running around on the front lines, and I get the feeling she wasn't forced into that.
Gah, read the books. They're really good, and you'll get a good idea of what a Spartan has to go through. It's really cool, but when I stop to think about it, it's pretty fucking sad. Master Chief looks like a complete bad ass, but he saw most, if not all, of his squad die in action. But, of course, that's not how it goes on the records.
They all just go MIA because Spartans never die.