Poll: Abortion a political issue?

Hopkins

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Ultrajoe post=18.68731.638444 said:
Im against abortion, but for killing babies.

Nobody wins. And points to those who know where this comes from.
Maddox, well played.

Pro-Choice here. And to the person above me, aborted fetuses used to be necessary for stem cell research (and they still are I believe) but researchers can now get the DNA from a fetus without harming it.
 

Limos

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The Potato Lord post=18.68731.639033 said:
Ivoryagent post=18.68731.638994 said:
HSIAMetalKing post=18.68731.638949 said:
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HSIAMetalKing post=18.68731.638678 said:
You don't know that they're going to have a horrible life-- at least they're getting a chance. I know that I was once a fetus, and if my parents had had me scrambled up before I was born, it would have totally sucked.

And it does solve something-- unless you're trying to say that rapists aren't a problem.
You're entirely missing the point here.
I said, abortion takes place BEFORE the fetus gets a conscience.

Yes, you were once a fetus, but how exactly would you know that someone was getting rid of you? You don't have a conscience. You know what that means? You don't exist, you don't think, you don't care that you're being rid of, because you don't have a damn conscience!
And anything that doesn't have a conscience can basically be thrown away just like an annoying weed problem. Accept it.

And no, killing the rapist does not solve anything. The deed has already been done, how would getting rid of the perpetrator solve anything? I don't understand. Besides, rapists don't always get convicted and/or executed.
Getting rid of the rapist solves the problem of having a rapist alive. According to rainn.org, 46% percent of rapists that are released from prison are arrested again within 3 years.

As for conscience-- I really don't see what that has to do with anything. So what if I didn't have one? The fact that I "wouldn't know" if I was being aborted doesn't change the fact that I am being aborted.
So what if you were being aborted? The issue here is, you wouldn't have a conscience. You are quite literally worthless without one.

WORTHLESS.
Ah but There is a flaw in this logic, computers have no concience yet they are crucial to our lives and if you say they're not you're a liar, because you're looking at a computer screen RIGHT NOW.

But by saying everything without a concience is worthless you're saying all inanimate objects are worthless.
I believe the word you are all looking for is Consciousness which means to be aware of your existence. Conscience on the other hand is the theoretical voice that tells you not to do things. I say theoretical because I myself have never experienced it.
 

HSIAMetalKing

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yourkie1921 post=18.68731.639841 said:
Anniko post=18.68731.639416 said:
HSIAMetalKing post=18.68731.638949 said:
Getting rid of the rapist solves the problem of having a rapist alive. According to rainn.org, 46% percent of rapists that are released from prison are arrested again within 3 years.

As for conscience-- I really don't see what that has to do with anything. So what if I didn't have one? The fact that I "wouldn't know" if I was being aborted doesn't change the fact that I am being aborted.
According to rainn.org, 54% of rapists aren't arrested again within 3 years. Stop bullshitting and start getting rational arguments.

I'm pro-do-whatever-the-fuck-you-want-it's-your-body.
Um, dude that's obvious if the other guy is right. if 46% are arrested within the next 3 years that means 54% aren't

Agreed.
Hey, I passed my middle-school math class too. Consider that only %6 percent of rapists ever spend a day in jail. The rapists may not be caught every time, but when they snatch your daughter one dark night and ruin her life-- you'll wish he had been executed the first time.

All that aside-- %46 is way too high a number in the first place.
j-e-f-f-e-r-s post=18.68731.642134 said:
HSIAMetalKing post=18.68731.638949 said:
Getting rid of the rapist solves the problem of having a rapist alive. According to rainn.org, 46% percent of rapists that are released from prison are arrested again within 3 years.

As for conscience-- I really don't see what that has to do with anything. So what if I didn't have one? The fact that I "wouldn't know" if I was being aborted doesn't change the fact that I am being aborted.
If there's no conscience, how can there be a you in the first place?
The conscienceless fetus developed and made a "me". Without that fetus, there would not be a "me".
 

sidhe3141

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Personally, I favor Issac Asimov's views: I'm all in favor of gay marriage, oaths of celibacy, sterilization drives, euthanasia, effective sex education, abortion, and anything else that gets the population under control without forcing someone else's decisions down anyone's throat. We saw the signs that there's too many of us as it is thirty-odd years ago, and it's only gotten worse since then.