Poll: AC:Unity MACROTRANSACTIONS

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Zhukov said:
If the products they are offering are overpriced then people will not buy them, Ubisoft will not profit and the problem will solve itself.

If people prove willing to pay the prices they are asking then those prices are evidently not excessive.
That isn't how that works.

Just because people are willing to pay something, that doesn't mean the price is what it should be or even reasonable. People can still be pissed off that they have to pay something and still be paying it. A product can absolutely be overpriced and still be successful, see Warhammer 40k, among others.

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Honestly? Meh. That sucks, but everything I've seen about Unity looks utterly mediocre anyway. Black Flag was absolutely glorious, but this just looks like a return to a formula that had gotten old about halfway through AssCreed 2.
When they put micro-transactions in the Assassins Creed: Cowboys VS Templars, then I'll start to get upset.
 

duwenbasden

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Don't have a problem with it, but mostly because I am amused and fascinated by the people that pay for that shit.

They make for good laughs and SMH moments.
 

Rednog

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Seriously who cares?
No I mean it, does anyone here actually think that they would need to purchase in game currency? This is the exact same thing that happened in Dead Space 3 and it was absolutely not necessary. If the game locked away content that could only be purchased with exclusive microtransaction currency you damn right you'd have a reason to be outraged. As of right now it's just a stupid thing that's in the game. Once it crosses the line, then you can be outraged. If there's anyone that was going to buy this game game and now won't because of this, then I honestly hold you in less regard then the micro/macro-transactions.
 

mxc2012

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Rednog said:
Seriously who cares?
No I mean it, does anyone here actually think that they would need to purchase in game currency? This is the exact same thing that happened in Dead Space 3 and it was absolutely not necessary. If the game locked away content that could only be purchased with exclusive microtransaction currency you damn right you'd have a reason to be outraged. As of right now it's just a stupid thing that's in the game. Once it crosses the line, then you can be outraged. If there's anyone that was going to buy this game game and now won't because of this, then I honestly hold you in less regard then the micro/macro-transactions.
Once it has crossed that line it will be too late. They will eventually start doing that unless we make a clear statement now.
 

RandV80

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Honestly if people are that bothered by this maybe it's time to move on from the so called 'AAA' gaming scene. Want good quality console games? Get a Nintendo. Want 'mature' titles? Get a PC and use Steam/GOG.

Well maybe it's not all quite that bad yet there's still a few good guys, but still. Big publishers are going to want the big money, and they wouldn't try selling these things if it didn't make money. And now that the cat's out of the bag, they're going to focus on the audience that they can make the most money off of.
 

SonOfVoorhees

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Dont care about microtransactions - no one has to buy them. BUT. What i do have a problem with is if they gimp the game to the point where it become a boring grind fest for the sole purpose of annoying gamers into buying the micro transactions.
 

CaptainMarvelous

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Man, people are going to great lengths to avoid linking to Kotaku.
Can't speak for the others but an infuriating couple of articles about 3 or 4 years ago convinced me not to frequent that particular news-source (compounded by someone slamming Space Dandy with criticisms I violently disagreed with so not rescinding my view any time soon). Actually, Gawker in general feels like shameless at best, hypocritical at worst clickbait most of the time so I dunno *shrug* Not exactly mad we're avoiding using it as a source.

No idea why everyone's suddenly agreeing with me on that, but hey, gift-horse mouth.

OT: F*ck Unity, the DLC mission with the Chinese Assassin looks like a way more fun setting. Props for the Assassin's being on the non-conventional side here, that's about all the praise I have for it. ROGUE on the other hand looks like Boondock Saints the Pirate version so that's being considered for a purchase
 

Something Amyss

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CaptainMarvelous said:
I don't really care. I was being sarcastic, because it's funny how much fol;ks will rage about Kotaku, but this is a news article that originates with Kotaku.

In short, people don't want to read Kotaku, but evidently can't be arsed to find somewhere other than it as a primary source.

This happens with enough regularity to be funny to me.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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Zachary Amaranth said:
CaptainMarvelous said:
I don't really care. I was being sarcastic, because it's funny how much fol;ks will rage about Kotaku, but this is a news article that originates with Kotaku.

In short, people don't want to read Kotaku, but evidently can't be arsed to find somewhere other than it as a primary source.

This happens with enough regularity to be funny to me.
I didn't know that. I was just browsing through Reddit when I stumbled upon this.
 

CaptainMarvelous

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Zachary Amaranth said:
CaptainMarvelous said:
I don't really care. I was being sarcastic, because it's funny how much fol;ks will rage about Kotaku, but this is a news article that originates with Kotaku.

In short, people don't want to read Kotaku, but evidently can't be arsed to find somewhere other than it as a primary source.

This happens with enough regularity to be funny to me.
Dude, if you don't care why even bring it up? Just to sneer at people?

I mean, obviously we aren't all enormous fans of kotaku because we're HAVING THIS DISCUSSION ON A COMPETITOR'S FORUM.
It'd be like commenting on any other thread how amusing it is people try not to source IGN.
 

Windcaler

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Zhukov said:
Meh. Marketing speak. Vaguely annoying, as marketing speak often is, but I can only laugh at people who get genuinely angry about this sort of thing.
I just had to chime in about this. I dont think most people get angry about marketing speak itself I think its because they feel like ubisoft thinks or is treating them like theyre stupid. No customer likes to be or feel insulted but a lot of these comments stretch those lines.

For example one publisher, I think it was ubisoft but I may be mistaken, began perpetrating the theory that the human eye cant detect frame rates above 30 fps. Now we know that isnt true because on multiple occasions the USAF has conducted tests on pilots that prove the human eye can handle up to 220 frames per second and still retain detailed memory of what they saw (it may go beyond that but 220 was the high limit of their tests). When they (they reffering to any developer of publisher) make factually inaccurate statements like that that ignore actual documented scientific testing then I get legitimatly angry because I feel like they are insulting my intelligence. I imagine other people would take a similar stance
 

NiPah

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It doesn't work properly on any system? I had to look it up and it does seem to be a bit buggy, although I've no clue how prevalent these are.

Microtransactions? I certainly don't like them, but you'll have to be a bit more clear on what exactly these entail.
I don't hate them simply for being there, I hate them if the game is not good without them, or they are two costly and don't add much at all. I mean even if the game has a $100 microtransaction but makes it more fun to play then I've ever experienced, worth it (most likely not though).

Frame rate issues? Choppiness is annoying, how prevalent is it and to what extent?

Hiding stuff from review copies? Not cool, but then again I haven't read a review for actual information in ages, so I don't really care.

The stuff about adding a female character? Meh, never really cared, I'd love a female lead but it's not news to me that they didn't include one (and yes it would have added extra time/money).

Talking down to their entire audience about 30fps being better then 60? Honestly I would like higher frame rates, but I never really gave a shit, as long as the game played well.

And they have time to milk the players? That's how businesses work, if they make more money on this game then maybe they can devote enough time to making those higher FPS that everyone cares so much about.

Now back to Destiny, the game everyone said is bad.
 

Robert Kalmar

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Danny Dowling said:
Remember when Ubisoft made PoP Sands of Time and it was the shit? Ahh, how the times have changed.

gg, Ubisoft, gg.
PoP trilogy, GOOD Splinter Cell games, Beyond Good and Evil... UbiSoft games were among the best in gaming back then... 10 years ago. The world is changing eh? But it's not THAT bad. We got Rayman Legends (after typical UbiShit), Child of Light and Valiant Hearts...
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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Slayer4472 said:
>Eight people said this was okay

Who are you, and how much did Ubisoft pay you?
You got this wrong. Nobody had to pay them. See, when a random person on the internet is trying to tell people about anti-consumer practices that should concern the rest of us, some people take that as their chance to appear smart by spouting objective facts about a subject they're not supposed to be objective about. They don't understand that consumer rights and their own convenience should be more important to them than stating the obvious, which is that the publishers are technically allowed to do whatever the fuck they want. We know that publishers can do all these things. The issue here is, why would anyone let them?

It's kind of like trying to criticize anti-slavery advocates by saying that the law says that slavery is OK, so we should just accept that it is. If you don't like it, you don't have to own a slave. And it's a slippery slope argument that you or your friends can suddenly become slaves. That only happens if you do something wrong.

And before somebody comes along to accuse me of comparing Ubisoft's policies with slavery, that's not what I'm doing. They're not similar to slavery. But some of these corporate apologist arguments are the same arguments that I used in my example to demonstrate why they're not particularly effective or even valid in this discussion. It's not a discussion about facts and laws. It's about what is best for the consumers despite of the existing systems and existing facts. Some people have an amazing inability to comprehend this.

If something concerns you or the things that you find important, like gaming, then being objective and accepting the existing situation as inevitable doesn't make you smart. It doesn't make you logical and rational. It makes you gullible, weak willed, and it makes you partially to blame for this situation, because you obviously don't value your own rights and your hard earned money enough to fight to make things better and easier for yourself. And you'd rather argue against those that do. You're supposed to be subjective because this is about you.

It's no wonder the governments of the world and the corporations that run them can get away with anything these days. I shouldn't be surprised that it's the same on a smaller scale like this Ubisoft problem. God help this generation because they sure as hell don't know how to help themselves.
 

Netrigan

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MirenBainesUSMC said:
I ve read in others feedback that you actually have to pay for basic assasins skills?

Is that true?
With skill points earned through missions.