Poll: Adidas Slave Shoes

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aba1

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ResonanceSD said:
Blablahb said:
Smeatza said:
I can't believe it's actually reached this point.
Where hip hop culture (and therefore it's clothes) has become so clueless, so vacuous, that it's forgotten about the slave trade?
Maybe you can tell us what the point is of endlessly dragging on and on about a very small event that occurred centuries ago and which nobody alive today has witnessed?

And yes, very fucking small, because there's much bigger historical events with a much larger impact today, like the First World War.
I'm with Daedalus here. Because trivialising this sort of thing brings it closer to being acceptable. I'm not sure how you can't understand this.
Or maybe simply not making a deal of it will allow people to not let it rule there lives and the sheer idea will become a obscure and silly idea something so ridiculous it is laughable. We can finally start to view it in the way it should be as something from another time when people did stupid things well more stupid than now.

OT: I think these would actually sell decently if they were coloured black and red and sold to a goth/ emo demographic.
 

KiKiweaky

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Well I dont find them offensive but I'm sure someone who is struggling to make a living and feed a family making them might
 

him over there

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aba1 said:
ResonanceSD said:
Blablahb said:
Smeatza said:
I can't believe it's actually reached this point.
Where hip hop culture (and therefore it's clothes) has become so clueless, so vacuous, that it's forgotten about the slave trade?
Maybe you can tell us what the point is of endlessly dragging on and on about a very small event that occurred centuries ago and which nobody alive today has witnessed?

And yes, very fucking small, because there's much bigger historical events with a much larger impact today, like the First World War.
I'm with Daedalus here. Because trivialising this sort of thing brings it closer to being acceptable. I'm not sure how you can't understand this.
Or maybe simply not making a deal of it will allow people to not let it rule there lives and the sheer idea will become a obscure and silly idea something so ridiculous it is laughable. We can finally start to view it in the way it should be as something from another time when people did stupid things well more stupid than now.

OT: I think these would actually sell decently if they were coloured black and red and sold to a goth/ emo demographic.
Adidas is too mainstream though, got to create a sub brand from the parent company to sell stuff to trendy people who hate your company.
 

aba1

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him over there said:
aba1 said:
ResonanceSD said:
Blablahb said:
Smeatza said:
I can't believe it's actually reached this point.
Where hip hop culture (and therefore it's clothes) has become so clueless, so vacuous, that it's forgotten about the slave trade?
Maybe you can tell us what the point is of endlessly dragging on and on about a very small event that occurred centuries ago and which nobody alive today has witnessed?

And yes, very fucking small, because there's much bigger historical events with a much larger impact today, like the First World War.
I'm with Daedalus here. Because trivialising this sort of thing brings it closer to being acceptable. I'm not sure how you can't understand this.
Or maybe simply not making a deal of it will allow people to not let it rule there lives and the sheer idea will become a obscure and silly idea something so ridiculous it is laughable. We can finally start to view it in the way it should be as something from another time when people did stupid things well more stupid than now.

OT: I think these would actually sell decently if they were coloured black and red and sold to a goth/ emo demographic.
Adidas is too mainstream though, got to create a sub brand from the parent company to sell stuff to trendy people who hate your company.
hahaha your probably right
 

Smeatza

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Blablahb said:
It was the first time ever in history there was such a well-planned and advanced genocide from what was pretty much a peacetime situation (because the Jews were not a coherent group that had hostile contacts with the Germans). It was the first time killing was approached as an industrial operation with modern means.

It was also a turning point for Christianity as a whole, because after the Holocaust, suddenly Christians everywhere were confronted with the consequences of their active or latent hatred against other religions. This hadn't been the case before on such a scale.

Slavery however was normal at the time pretty much everywhere, and always had been normal anywhere before that. Slavery is still quite normal today in west Africa and the Middle East.
The writing not in bold is irrelevant to the USA when compared to the enslavement and persecution of Africans. The part in bold is factually incorrect.

Blablahb said:
As you may well know, slavery is illegal in the US and has been for quite a while. The idea that there's effects to be felt is lunacy.
If you're really trying to say the lasting effects of hundreds of years of slavery and persecution have dissappeared in less than a century, I have no option but to believe you are being deliberately obtuse.

I could reel off all the statistics that prove there's still an issue but I'm sure you've heard it all before and simply just don't care.

Blablahb said:
But I assume you're also going to harass and acuse some BDSM enthousiasts? They use cuffs after all. Heck, there's even 'slaves' there. Black people who are slaves even. Oh, the horror.
Again, you are being deliberately obtuse, my issue was with the fact they were almost certainly being marketed towards the hip hop culture.

Seen as we're getting dangerously off topic, and I'm not getting anything constructive out of you, I'm done here.
 

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I find them offensive to my sense of sight because they're ugly as sin. That's about it.
 

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I'm curious as to why everyone immediately jumped to slavery? There's at least one other class of person, for lack of a better word, that's been know to wear shackles. Offensive? No. Stupid? Yes. Ugly? Very much so.
 

Slycne

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Because clearly shackles were never used for anything but the detainment of slaves.

That's almost akin to saying that we should boycott them because they are breaking copyright law and evoking imagery of Disney's Robin Hood film.
 

ImperialSunlight

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Yes, let's just look at anything that might symbolise something and assume it does! [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory]

Logic!
 

lacktheknack

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I find it offensive for unrelated reasons.

https://www.oxfam.org.au/explore/workers-rights/adidas

As dry and downplayed as that link is, Adidas HAS been caught in child labor scandals in the past, and it made me pretty ticked to see these shoes with that in mind.
 

StoneSycst

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I think everyone's just overreacting, Adidas is just trying to make more of its shoes accessible to the people who make them.
 

BENZOOKA

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Utterly ridiculous

If you want to get offended by something, you can. The most ridiculous thing about these "this is offensive" things, is that in a huge majority of the cases someone is thinking someone is getting offended by it, rather than one feeling genuinely offended because of a straightforward proper reason.
 

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Regardless of the implications that may or may not be applied here, those shoes are fucking ugly. Seriously, did someone stand up in a meeting at Adidas and say "You know what's really in this year? Shackles" and everyone was just stunned into agreement? Or maybe they're hoping to cash in on the popularity of cheap bondage thanks to the 50 shades of grey books?
 

Hoplon

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The only thing offensive about those sneakers is having to look at them.

Damn but they are fucking ugly.
 

Latinidiot

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They look horrible, but that is no reason to boycott them. Well it is, but not on some fancy principle. They are indeed shackles, but if you keep looking for symbolism in every little thing you can find, your world will be filled with dicks. it will be a sausage fest.

Basically a Cock tsunami s what I'm sayin.

i don't remember what we're on about.
 

ace_of_something

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Well besides the fact they look stupid, uncomfortable, and expensive. They are getting a lot of free publicity. Mission Accomplished for Adidas?

Adam Galli said:
apparently the desing was based on my pet monster from the 80s
I had one of those! It was waaay better than 'my buddy' 'my buddy' was for dorks.
Smeatza said:
If you're really trying to say the lasting effects of hundreds of years of slavery and persecution have dissappeared in less than a century, I have no option but to believe you are being deliberately obtuse.

I could reel off all the statistics that prove there's still an issue but I'm sure you've heard it all before and simply just don't care.
While I agree with most of your statements 1865 is well over a century. Nitpick man aaawwwwaaaaayyyy
 

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1st: Slavery being "normal at the time" does NOT in any way make it less of a big deal when it comes to affects on the US... if not the world. Slavery ANYWHERE is still horrible.

2nd: YOU may not feel the effects of slavery today, but who are you to speak for every person in the US today? If slavery from back then doesn't have anymore influence today, then why is this shoe-stuff even an issue?

Also, stop comparing slavery to wars....Wars are fought between countries and soldiers.....not degrading hate and murdering of innocent people for no reason other than skin, sex, race, etc.
 

Ickorus

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18514626

Yep, a stupid pair of shoes are exactly what we should be angry about.
 

Aris Khandr

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It's too bad the colours are so awful. I know a few people who would like a pair if the colours were more subdued. Black tennies, black shackles? Why is that so hard?