Poll: AIDS: population control?

[CuddlyCombine]

Human controlled? No. Thats War.

War costs money, time, and huge amounts of resources. You'd have to be nuking entire countries.

 

[Glerken]

Eh, putting something in a flu vaccine that makes you sterile.
Sounds like an easy way to cut off on the worlds population.

Ah. Remember, you'd have to distribute your fertility killer. How do you imagine you can force vaccinations on hundreds of thousands of people?

I'm pretty sure plenty of people get flu vaccinations.

 

[Jindrak]

Damn chimpanzees conspiring to control our population!

Read: No.

 

[Worgen]

Eh, putting something in a flu vaccine that makes you sterile.
Sounds like an easy way to cut off on the worlds population.

Ah. Remember, you'd have to distribute your fertility killer. How do you imagine you can force vaccinations on hundreds of thousands of people?

you could try that but it wouldnt fool the religious crazies, they already stopped us from eliminating one disease (a topic Im too lazy too look up at the moment) by telling people it would sterilize them

 

[Falconus]

While I highly doubt aids is a carefully orchestrated ploy to kill us all. I find the concept hilarious and will be sure to implement it when I take over the world. Thanks for the idea.

 

[CuddlyCombine]

I'm pretty sure plenty of people get flu vaccinations.

A couple million at the most, I'd imagine. It would be interesting to find numbers for that.

 

[Charli]

Human controlled? No. Thats War.

War costs money, time, and huge amounts of resources. You'd have to be nuking entire countries.

*Bang* Oooh too bad, missed my point entirely. Try again.

I didn't say people go to war whenever they feel like it I meant it was a human controlled aspect of population control and guess what mass amounts of people die in wars. Does it solve the problem in it's enitrety? PSH hell no, but it's as OPPOSED to the Nature version of control which is disease, genetic disfunctions. etc.

 

[CuddlyCombine]

I didn't say people go to war whenever they feel like it I meant it was a human controlled aspect of population control and guess what mass amounts of people die in wars. Does it solve the problem in it's enitrety? PSH hell no, but it's as OPPOSED to the Nature version of control which is disease, genetic disfunctions. etc.

In that case, no, I don't see war as population control at all. People may die in it, but not even anywhere close to making a dent in the overall number. War has never been fought to control population, and it's never had that effect. If I'm missing your point again that's because I have no idea what it is (or I assume this is it).

 

[matnatz]

There's no real need for population control.

We're way past the carrying capacity of the earth. Give us a hundred years and we'll be screwed.

OP, it sounds like you want this to happen by the way you defend the existence of overpopulation as a real threat to the human race at every turn. Overpopulation is only an issue when the government does not properly take advantage of land. With the proper planning you could fit the population of China or India in a much smaller area.

 

[Valiance]

What if the government instilled this plan as an effort to cut down population? As I said, the people affected most are the uneducated.

I said this something like 4 years ago, but yeah, I certainly think it's a possibility.

 

[I III II X4]

OP, it sounds like you want this to happen by the way you defend the existence of overpopulation as a real threat to the human race at every turn. Overpopulation is only an issue when the government does not properly take advantage of land. With the proper planning you could fit the population of China or India in a much smaller area.

Answer truthfully, do you want to live in an area where your home is stacked upon another home? An entire country that's built like a hive?

What it's gonna come down to are orbiting colonies, underwater dwellings (Most likely for the affluent), and societies beneath the Earth's surface.

Or, if everything goes to hell in a handbasket, PHWOAARR!

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Now, for the OP's question.

Could the AIDS virus be a method of population control?

Yes, it's handsfree, just let it seep into the populace, and watch the body count rise.

Why would people not want to take care of 3rd World countries? It takes time, money, and resources. It renews the countries, to the point that they could challenge the authority of the countries that helped them in the past. (Example: The U.S.)

Once again, it costs money, the sad, pathetic creatures that comfort themselves with their glorified prize don't want to spend it, they don't want to lose it, or even risk it. By eliminating the AIDS virus, their wealth and position are threatened.

 

[Donbett1974]

HIV came from a polio vaccine that came a monkey which had SIV.Plus there are more cost-effective ways to kill people.

 

[Abedeus]

No. Because it's already possible for parents to give a birth to a perfectly healthy child. How? Isolating the virus from the sperm, problem solved.

 

[Instant K4rma]

Its not a conspiracy, disease is looked at by some as a natural way of population control. Not saying its true, but its the viewpoint of a lot of people.

 

[matnatz]

OP, it sounds like you want this to happen by the way you defend the existence of overpopulation as a real threat to the human race at every turn. Overpopulation is only an issue when the government does not properly take advantage of land. With the proper planning you could fit the population of China or India in a much smaller area.

Answer truthfully, do you want to live in an area where your home is stacked upon another home? An entire country that's built like a hive?

Currently I live in a small terraced house along a main road, it's pretty much an apartment complex but on it's side. So I doubt I'd see much difference. Anyway, building up isn't even a large step from building out, except more stairs and less traffic noise. And that's only if it's really bad. What about tall (Three floors), but narrow houses for families. Every inch you save on one building get's multiplied by however many buildings of that type their are in your town. But that's talking about the western world, where overpopulation is not a problem and will not be a problem.

In the areas of China and India where overpopulation is really bad, I doubt they'd care if they were built on top of one another, it can't be any worse than what they already have. Money is what comes into the matters then, building up would fix their problem, and considering the speed at which India and China are gaining that particular resource at the moment I don@'t think money will be a problem for long.

 

[Johnn Johnston]

Nope. It's a disease, not a conspiracy to stem population growth, and (in my view) it's incredibly foolhardy to think that it's a secret plot designed to rampantly kill off millions indiscriminately.

 

[Ignignoct]

What you're about to read (if you have the attention span) is a viewpoint that I do not share. I mean, I thought of it, but I don't believe it; while not impossible, it is highly improbable, and I'm just trying to stir discussion. Poll included if you don't have time to spit out some words.

First, let's look at it; AIDS is a deviously evil disease. Symptoms don't appear for years after you get infected, leaving you to have sexual relations with anyone who doesn't suspect you of having AIDS and doesn't ask you to get tested. It takes a long time to become lethal, but once it is, nothing short of a complete bone marrow transplant can save you. In the end, you die. If you have children, they'll die. Whoever you've had sexual contact with will die.

Now, in the developed world, AIDS isn't as prevalent among the general populace, given increased awareness, condom usage, and preventive measures taken. However, in third-world countries, where rape and unsafe sex are as common as air molecules, it spreads like wildfire. Given the high birth rate in said countries, entire generations are being born only to die.

What if the government instilled this plan as an effort to cut down population? As I said, the people affected most are the uneducated, 'useless' ones in Africa and other impoverished locales. The rich upper class are much less likely to get the virus, which is perfect, considering they are the ruling caste. This way, the leadership of the world continues to live on, while the poor eventually all die out.

Sounds ridiculous, dun' it? Whatever, let's just talk possibilities and what the implications would be. Oh, and yes, I know that AIDS originated from chimps.

It culls the culturally ignorant: Africans that don't like being told by foreigner whites how to have safe sex. Everywhere else, too, but I just finished watching an AIDS documentary focused on Africa =p.

It also culls the unfortunate and careless: No condom, Broken condoms, needle-sharing, kids born with parents STDs, etc.

It's a shame STDs are not taken more seriously than the need to proclaim one's manhood by virtue of his lay-count.

To call it artificial population control is to imply conspiracy or theology.

To call it natural population control is speculation at best.

It is what it is. Virus is just doing what it's evolved to do.

 

[Aardvark Soup]

Wait, 22.4% of the people here actually believe this shit?! People really shouldn't assume some random crap on a website to be well-founded and the complete truth. By believing in such conspiracy theories, you are basically ignoring the true AIDS problem, which is a very bad thing.

And no, I'm not a reptile monster working for the Illuminati trying to brainwash you.

 

[IrrelevantTangent]

It's possible. That's really all I can say on the subject, other than to agree with all the others who are in accordance on the fact that this planet has severe overpopulation problems.

 

[Skeleon]

AIDS has actually been around a lot longer than most people know.
The first cases outside of Africa where in the sixties.
But the disease has been within small tribal communities for nobody knows how long!
So, long story short, no, it's not a conspiracy by the government.
If anything, it's a conspiracy by the Catholic church...
Though I don't believe that really either. I think they're just idiots.