Poll: Allison's prayer group

[magnuslion]

I'm an athiest, so I will not be praying. But just saying, you are kind of imposing by only puttting one poll option. Still, really hope she gets better

"Imposing" Implies that you are required to either pray or not pray, or respond to a thread about something in which you do not believe, and none of that is true.

 

[LostTimeLady]

Wow, this is really lovely.
I'll be praying for Allison.
I've been really moved by how generous everyone's been for her surgery.
I'll do my best to remember the prayer time, otherwise, I'll remember her in my prayers generally.

I really am bowled over by the community's reaction to all this, it makes me proud to be a member of the community. Hats off to you guys and God bless the Extra Credits team.

 

[Artina89]

I won't be praying, but I will be wishing Allison a swift recovery and wish her all the best for the future. I hope she gets well soon.

 

[irani_che]

One pair of hands offering help is worth 1000 pairs of hands together in prayer

 

[Ghengis John]

I'm not a big fan of having religion shoved down my throat, so I'll pass.

Nobody shoved anything down your throat. You're choking on your own prejudice and insecurities. You might have a problem with people trying to convert you, or judging you for your beliefs but this guy is doing nothing of the sort. He simply exists in the same space as you and apparently that is too much for you to bear.

snip.

Now you seem like a level headed, good and reasonable fella. A tip of the hat to you, good sir. I was about to commend your Baiken avatar when I suddenly recalled... I have before... Well I did say last time I probably would again didn't I? Lol.

 

[Farther than stars]

Wow, this is really lovely.
I'll be praying for Allison.
I've been really moved by how generous everyone's been for her surgery.
I'll do my best to remember the prayer time, otherwise, I'll remember her in my prayers generally.

I really am bowled over by the community's reaction to all this, it makes me proud to be a member of the community. Hats off to you guys and God bless the Extra Credits team.

I agree that it is very good to see the community so strongly support one of the Escapist's contributors during her time of need. Also, thank you for your support as well. It seems that Allison has been added to the prayer lists of quite a few people here. ^.^

 

[Hotshots]

Then how does one justify all the money raised for Allison? As you point out, there are plenty of people in quantifiably worse situations that could use the money. Especially given you don't appear particularly convinced by the power of prayer, shouldn't you be campaigning against the diversion of economic resources for this cause well before you worry about some people taking a few minutes to direct their thoughts towards it?

Well considering the fact that people have already gave money, before I heard about the situation, there's nothing I can really do apart from asking people to use their time to give money to the poor instead of prayer.

"I can't help but think you're looking for something to rail against just because this is about prayer." - What do you base this off?

*examines own post*

*examines own post again*

I don't know. What do I base it off?

I take it that you edited out that part, but it still remains in my inbox. I was a tad curious why you would think that I was having a go against anything. Since you removed it, however, my interest is peaked. So please, tell me.

 

[Sentox6]

I take it that you edited out that part, but it still remains in my inbox. I was a tad curious why you would think that I was having a go against anything. Since you removed it, however, my interest is peaked. So please, tell me.

It was removed because it was based on a misreading of your original post.

Consequently, there is simply no answer to your question.

 

[Hotshots]

I take it that you edited out that part, but it still remains in my inbox. I was a tad curious why you would think that I was having a go against anything. Since you removed it, however, my interest is peaked. So please, tell me.

It was removed because it was based on a misreading of your original post.

Consequently, there is simply no answer to your question.

Oh well fair play then. My apolgies, I was just curious.

 

[ShindoL Shill]

i suppose chaos theory (or the butterfly effect) could be part of prayer. the action of 'stepping on a butterfly' (in this instance, its praying) could make allison better. theyre unrelated, but thats the point of the butterfly effect.
btw im an atheist. i respect beliefs and hope allison gets better, but i dont believe in god personally.

 

[Dark Knifer]

These things always make me double-take a bit since my girlfriend's name is Allison...

OT: Hopefully she get's better but the time seems to have past with a huge amount of money given then the thoughts and prayers might be better use elsewhere honestly, I wish her a speedy recovery and all but might be better suited keeping things like people in poverty in mind honestly... Sorry to be a downer but I felt like it should be said.

 

[Skalman]

Sums up my opinion.

 

[katsumoto03]

You know, I have to ask...

What exactly do prayers do?

It's a way of turning some selfless well-wishes into a selfish thing to make one believe that they personally are doing the subject a service.

 

[viranimus]

Snip to be quoted individually

The only ones imposing views are the ones who start praying for people who *may not even want that done*, and are very public and in people's faces about it.

Sort of like the 60 out of 70 responses that preceded my post Or the majority of posts afterward that at best made it a point that they were atheist, to using selective facts to try to invalidate religion to those that said little more than how prayer is pointless and how money was the only relevant thing? How about how the thread has an overwhelming majority of people preaching the same system of belief yet how many different people is needed to chime in "I dont believe in what you believe in"? Was there a point in that other than to backhandedly say "I think your wrong for believing what you believe. You should have faith in what I have faith in"

The only ones changing the subject of this failed-from-the-start topic are the ones who try to turn it into a flamewar over atheism.

Im confused here, because I have read the entire thread. As best as I can read it went from the OP arranging a prayer group to the next 60-70 posts consisting of either "im an atheist", expressing how religion is wrong, or the OP trying to explain this wasnt a debate about religion.So can you explain to me how it is that the religious Zealots were ganging up on those lowly misunderstood atheistic minority trying to start a flame war. The only changing of the topic occurred in the wave of "Im an Atheist, and what your doing is irrelevant" posts that sprang up.

I for one don't care about showing off on a forum how good a believer I am by praying, or bashing atheists angered by that show of religious superiority-complex, but I just think it sucks someone got injured.

Perhaps your not but you did make it a point to go out of your way to bash at someone who was defending someone who had religion, Your statement incorrectly assumes that the OP of this thread or hell anyone who expressed a pro theistic view as trying to show off and impose their values, when all this thread was ever about was the organization of people wishing well for someone who is having a hard time. The only values shoved in anyone's face in the content of this thread came from those atheists who wanted to take offense simply at the mention of something religious and use it as an opportunity to "prove those religious people wrong"

The point of this thread is long lost. Considering that the arranged prayer group was scheduled to have their group over 10 days ago. I can see little or no reason to justify this thread being necro'd other than to take more stabs at religion and pat each other on the back because they agree religion is wrong, cause oddly enough thats the only view that has been expressed since it jumped from july 5th to july 17th

Just let the thread die and resist the urge to troll because it was never intended to be a topic debating the validity of religion, no matter how it was forced into being that.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

To anyone offended: a few of us posted just because the OP made a claim and cited studies that he didn't have. I wasn't going to post, but the OP tried to pull the "studies" card and pretty much lied. That or he just isn't sharing his sources after people have asked him for them. We weren't trying to be disrespectful to you, we just couldn't let a statistical claim go unchallenged.

 

[Farther than stars]

These things always make me double-take a bit since my girlfriend's name is Allison...

OT: Hopefully she get's better but the time seems to have past with a huge amount of money given then the thoughts and prayers might be better use elsewhere honestly, I wish her a speedy recovery and all but might be better suited keeping things like people in poverty in mind honestly... Sorry to be a downer but I felt like it should be said.

Yes, well, as I pointed out before, prayer is not a limited resource. Of course I pray for the lives of many different people. It's OK, you're not being that much of a downer. It's a valid opinion, even though I feel it is a little bit restricted by a static pattern of thought.

To anyone offended: a few of us posted just because the OP made a claim and cited studies that he didn't have. I wasn't going to post, but the OP tried to pull the "studies" card and pretty much lied. That or he just isn't sharing his sources after people have asked him for them. We weren't trying to be disrespectful to you, we just couldn't let a statistical claim go unchallenged.

Yes, I understand that. I admit freely that it was a bit of a mistake on my part to bring up such a controversial subject, although I felt that it would provide some insight into my personal view and help explain the idea behind the prayers to those involved in the prayer group.
I didn't name any sources simply because to argue theology wasn't the point of this thread. Since then I've learned that, as you put it, some couldn't keep themselves from challenging it anyway, but not wishing it to spark the debate about it on this particular thread, I just left it be (for the most part).