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Fightgarr

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I have a love-hate relationship with anime. Generally hate. See the thing is, I don't like anime. I like the anime that I like and approach new anime with caution. About 70% of what I watch I reject for adherence to too many anime cliches and the rest I will either watch until I've found it's grown stale or will watch with the avid attention of a dog to a squirrel just outside the window. Anime is an incredibly broad category and it's often aimed at a demographic just below my age group. Many times the animation is something I can't stand, other times the voice acting or characters I find obnoxious. But it is through my exploration that I found some of my favorite shows of all time and my all time favorite movies.
Here are is some anime and my reactions to it:
I loved Cowboy Bebop, Claymore and Samurai Champloo. It should go without saying but I will say anyway that I love Miyazaki's work and his films comprise a bulky portion of my top 10 favorite films.
I thought that Death Note was mediocre and I hated pretty much every character. I stopped watching after 10 episodes. I thought that Trigun was nigh unbearable, but I've never been one for goofiness in a show being represented through anime cliches. I had a hard time with Gundam Wing and felt that the characters were shallow if not plain unlikeable. I manages to power through the first 14 episodes of that. I watched Neon Genesis Evangelion's first 4 episodes and while I liked the robot and creature designs, I felt, like in GW that the characters felt shallow or unlikeable.
Akira I watched for it's significance in the West. I was unimpressed and felt that it was overrated. I've heard that it's better if you've read the manga, but I feel I shouldn't have to read a comic just to appreciate the movie.
Similarly I felt Ghost in the Shell was overrated. I thought it was fine. It was a nice little romp into cool action and exposed a younger me to the wonders of cartoon boobage. On the other hand I got kind of... bored. It's hard to describe exactly what failed about it for me because I didn't feel any aspect of it was particularly weak, (other than the colour palette was a little bland) I just... wasn't blown away by any aspect I guess. If I hadn't come into the film with suchhigh expectations I would have been a cool little adventure, but thanks to the hype it fell flat.

Final thoughts: I don't dislike anime. I dislike certain parts of certain anime that tends to pepper itself through anime as a whole. If I find something that I really get into, chances are I'll forgive some cliches, otherwise I'm likely to stay away from most shows.
 

Spinozaad

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Cowabungaa said:
I like it every now and then. It's not my favourite medium, but I won't dismiss anime just because it's anime. But when I watch anime, I make sure it's a good one. Samurai Champloo, Cowboy Bebop and Studio Ghibli's work are among my favourites.

What I specifically don't like about anime, is that typical anime crap: ridiculous exaggerated facial expressions, those flashy backgrounds when something happens, stupid motions and overreactions. No thanks, I'll stick to more mature anime.
Spinozaad said:
I don't just hate it. I hate it with a furious passion. Why? I hate every bit of it, but mostly the art.

God, the ludicrous, ugly art.
FYI, not every anime uses the same kind of art. Far from it, actually.
Could well be the case, but every anime my more annoying Japanophile friends showed me (and that went well beyond the terror that is "Naruto" and the unimaginable horror that is "Bleach') I hated with a fiery passion. I have no need, nor any desire, to look for an illusive 'pearl' among the filthy, pathetic dribble.
 

Katherine Kerensky

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Ummm... Look at my avatar. What do you see?
Yes, I love anime. Well, certain anime. Don't love them all.
Why do I like it? I dunno. I just do.
I enjoy anime.
 

Win Laik Pya

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Fuck i love anime.

But goddamn is it terrible.

Gurren Lagaan, Azumanga, Ghost in the Shell, Lucky Star, FLCL, Gunslinger Girl, and Outlaw Star are some main courses i enjoy.

Serioulsy though. Anime is awesome, and NONE OF US SHOULD BE PROUD.
 

Good morning blues

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Sacman said:
what u just said sounds like the soulless mainstream crap like Ikki Tousen thats shat out to appease the masses. try watching something intelligent, that doesn't abuse their funds by spending it all on Frankensteining together a hyper-sexualized 13year old girl to do something retarded like kill Satan or get raped by a tentacle monster, you know something well animated with at the very least solid writing and inspiring characters like Ergo Proxy or Serial Experiments Lain or hell even the Gundam franchise has enough respect for their show to at least try and do something good(though the quality usually fluctuates between amazing and crap from series to series)...
I'm not saying that there's no good anime out there; I'm saying that the vast majority of it is god-awful. Things like Akira and Miyazaki's movies are well animated with solid writing, and they're genuinely good films! The overwhelming majority of anime, at least at the point when I gave up on it (a few years ago, shortly before I graduated from high school), was not well animated or well written.

slopeslider said:
You know what else is terrible? Dessert. I have tasted many desserts I don't like therefore all desserts in general must suck.
You know what else sucks? Vegetables. I don't like brussel sprouts or onions so all vegetables must suck.
I also concur with your well-put opinions on anime. I saw some I didn't like so the whole genre must suck, right?

...This sounds like flamebait.
Not flamebait at all. I don't really see how anyone can make any kind of value judgment about any genre if they can't try a large, diverse sampling of it and decide that because they didn't like that sample, they don't like the genre.

I have watched all kinds of shows that have been sold to me as the best that anime has to offer. The majority of it was awful.

Akira and Miyazaki's films, like I said, are both genuinely very good ? particularly the latter. They're interesting stories told in a way that looks good.

The other things that people have tried to show me in order to change my mind, however, have set me in my ways even more solidly. Hellsing is supposed to be this really dark and spectacular action series, but it's just a bunch of static images spouting dialogue that seems remarkably similar to what a twelve-year-old would write into a character that was supposed to be a badass. Ghost in the Shell is supposed to be this super-deep comment on what makes us human, but it's just this juvenile power fantasy about spouting faux-philosophy between gory deaths and gratuitous nudity. Evangelion was sold to me as the second coming of christ, but it's just a show about an insufferably whiny fourteen-year-old and his oversexualized and similarly whiny friends driving big robots around.

Ninja Scroll was the end of it for me. It's supposed to be this action masterpiece, but it's just a hideous and disturbing exercise in sex, violence, and sexual violence. Not for me, thanks.
 

Brad Shepard

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I love it! i think its great for the fact i can understand it better then anything on primetime tv.
 

Angerwing

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I fucking loath the visual style. I can't watch it, because it visually looks like shit (to me). If someone else likes it, I can understand why.
 

Coldman42

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I like a lot of anime, and there is a lot I don't like because, well... There is a LOT of anime out there. Some of it is good, and some if it is great, but there is a lot of crap that gets out there too. However i like anime a lot more then the dribble western animation has turned into. Aside from all the Seth McFarland cartoons. Family Guy FTW!!!

But yeah i like it more then i hate it you could say.
 

Kushin

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Yes, it's good. Not all of it, I personally cant stand all those magical girl animé, but some of it is just awesome.

Hellsing Ultimate, FLCL, Gurren Lagann, Code Geass, Rurouni Kenshin and Hajime No Ippo are possibly some of the best around (Not including the 'classics' like Evangelion and Cowboy Bebop which should be animé staples).

It doesn't honestly matter what we think though, anime is just another medium to tell a story. It's like saying I like to read my stories in a powerpoint like in Lost Odyssey, it may not be how you do it, but its a legitimate medium to tell a story through.
 

Cowabungaa

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Spinozaad said:
Could well be the case, but every anime my more annoying Japanophile friends showed me (and that went well beyond the terror that is "Naruto" and the unimaginable horror that is "Bleach') I hated with a fiery passion. I have no need, nor any desire, to look for an illusive 'pearl' among the filthy, pathetic dribble.
Yeah, that's your typical anime. Shame that you're not open to more sophisticated material in the genre, like some of the examples I put in the edited version of my post. I mean, good fiction is good fiction right? No matter if it's made in Japan or anywhere else. But going to your average Japanophile doesn't end you up with the really good stuff, they're more interested in more...Japanish stuff...*shudder*
Like Yu Gi Oh (third picture, with those weird monsters and stuff), that would list under your average, typical anime, so to speak, one you would surely hate. I just posted that to point out the difference in styles.

But there's no need to be a generalising elitist about it, that's for sure. Not every anime is some Lucky Star or Naruto-type monstrosity, don't hate the entire genre (heck you can barely call it one genre) because of them.
 

Calatar

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Spinozaad said:
I don't just hate it. I hate it with a furious passion. Why? I hate every bit of it, but mostly the art.

God, the ludicrous, ugly art.
The last two series I watched had the most beautiful background art and scenery I've ever seen in a cartoon.

Spice and Wolf

Le Chevalier
 

Brad Shepard

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I love it! i think its great for the fact i can understand it better then anything on primetime tv.
 

NewGeekPhilosopher

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Souplex said:
My problem with Japanime is that 95% of it falls somewhere between Bizarre Jelly 5 and Princess Robot Bubblegum.
Also; why do Japanese cartoons get their own special name, but cartoons from other countries don't?
Are you telling me Metalocalypse and Frisky Dingo don't have special names? As far as names for Western animations go, they're up there with the best crazy names Japan has to offer as anime titles. I mean "Amazing Wonder Three" - that has a pretty normal name by today's standards.

Even Ralph Bakshi's animations from the 1970s have awesome names like "Heavy Traffic" - and who the hell honestly thinks "Heavy Metal" isn't on a similar level of title creativity to "Full Metal Alchemist"? (Note: Heavy Metal isn't as good as FMA, I am merely saying the title is comparably awesome.)

I guess Japanese people are more creative in naming their animations. Maybe Western animation TV producers are afraid to take risks in naming their animations because the name of the show is targeted to the audience. So maybe it goes (weird audience) = (weird animation plus title to match)? Spongebob Squarepants doesn't seem that weird from the title, but the content of Spongebob makes up for it.
 

gim73

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I honestly love animé, been for several years. (you know you're addicted when you've watched over 175+ animés) Dx
175? Ah, to live in the nineties again! Nay my brother, I personally own more than 2000 tapes and dvds of the sacred anime. I've watched pretty much everything that has come out for the last 25 or so years, and a bunch from before that period as well.

Do I care if it is subtitled or dubbed? Not really. Only if they mess with actual content do I care about a dub, or if the voice really misses the mark.

Has my taste in anime changed over the years? Absolutely! I started out as a fantasy-only type anime fan that branched out into science fiction and then rode the golden age of animation through it's peak years.

Now I'm not saying that all anime is solid gold, I'm just saying that I've seen alot of good anime and that is what I choose to remember about anime.

I love the fansub companies that bring us releases days after they are aired in japan. Hell, some anime never gets noticed in the US until word of mouth about these fansubs brings them to the attention of distributers over here. I'm more than willing to pay for an actual dvd of anime. I fully support the anime companies so long as they are not trying to crack down on honest fansub groups.

Anime is a great thing.
 

Cowabungaa

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Demented Teddy said:
What's the anime in the last picture?
I'm sure I've seen it before when I was a child.
That's Spirited Away, a beautiful anime film. You can compare it with Alice in Wonderland mixed with old, Japanese folklore.