Nope, I know exactly how you feel.Indigo_Dingo said:See, this, in a nutshell, is what is wrong with modern dating.avykins said:*checks pants, feels testicles" Nope, guess Im not a romantic.
I don't give a fuck about fucking. What I care about is being the everything for someone, and knowing that they can mean everything to me. I want to listen to her problems, and just hold her til she feels better. God I'm alone....
yeah pretty much.Indigo_Dingo said:The problem is that she wants to be the prettiest girl in the world in your eyes. Thats the whole point of why she asks you that - she is not asking "Comparing the individual features, do I match the modern standard of beauty better than other girls?". She is asking "Are your feelings for me strong enough that I look beautiful to you?".vdgmprgrmr said:I'm too cold to be a romantic.
When girls in school become interested in me, it's usually because they've noticed that I try to keep things fair. And I don't lie.
But then if we actually do get together, it becomes a problem, because I won't always take her side in arguments if she's wrong. And I'll willfully argue against her, which is apparently not cool in society today. And chances are she's Christian, because this is Oklahoma, and I'm definitely an atheist. Also, "Would you say I'm hot?" "I'd say you're pretty average." "I hate you!"
What the hell ever happened to telling the truth, no matter what it is. Are people today just too weak for reality or something? What's so wrong with 'average' anyway? Most people are average, that's why it's called average. No matter who you are, the odds of you being 'average' far surpass the odds of you being above or below average.
I agree and disagree. She wants to be the prettiest world in the other's eyes, but I think he did the right thing. Otherwise he's just telling her she's beautiful to make her feel good and while this is all well and good if the intentions are correct, if he's doing it to get in her pants or just because she wants to hear it then there's no real purpose. Honesty is still the best choice.Indigo_Dingo said:The problem is that she wants to be the prettiest girl in the world in your eyes. Thats the whole point of why she asks you that - she is not asking "Comparing the individual features, do I match the modern standard of beauty better than other girls?". She is asking "Are your feelings for me strong enough that I look beautiful to you?".vdgmprgrmr said:I'm too cold to be a romantic.
When girls in school become interested in me, it's usually because they've noticed that I try to keep things fair. And I don't lie.
But then if we actually do get together, it becomes a problem, because I won't always take her side in arguments if she's wrong. And I'll willfully argue against her, which is apparently not cool in society today. And chances are she's Christian, because this is Oklahoma, and I'm definitely an atheist. Also, "Would you say I'm hot?" "I'd say you're pretty average." "I hate you!"
What the hell ever happened to telling the truth, no matter what it is. Are people today just too weak for reality or something? What's so wrong with 'average' anyway? Most people are average, that's why it's called average. No matter who you are, the odds of you being 'average' far surpass the odds of you being above or below average.
simple, its a conspiracy. Women are specifically built by the powers that be to confuse the shit out of men, its just a fact. They claim not to understand us...but its a lie, they know everything about us and can read us like a book, and they enjoy asking men questions like "do you think i look fat?" just to watch them squirm. Have you ever wondered why all the print on womens' T-shirts is always on the breasts? It's simply because they wanna mess with our heads, u wanna read it but the challenge if figuring out how to read it without getting caught, because you know she doesnt think your actually READING.dalek sec said:I think I understand what Indigo is talking about here but for me, I'm not the most open of people and mostly I keep my problems to myself. So yeah it does me leave me with the problem of helping someone else out with their crisis and not sounding like either I don't care or sounding like an uncaring machine about this sort of stuff, any chance anyone could explain to me why things like this seem to be really important?
Perhaps the correct answer would be "You're certainly the most beautiful girl in my life!" and then you should be able to avoid lying while still making her feel pretty...tactful solutuion eh?Indigo_Dingo said:Yes, and I do respect his honesty, but - and this is really the major thing - if he was in said relationship he really should have felt it. And he should also relize she has every right to be pissed off.ninjablu said:I agree and disagree. She wants to be the prettiest world in the other's eyes, but I think he did the right thing. Otherwise he's just telling her she's beautiful to make her feel good and while this is all well and good if the intentions are correct, if he's doing it to get in her pants or just because she wants to hear it then there's no real purpose. Honesty is still the best choice.Indigo_Dingo said:The problem is that she wants to be the prettiest girl in the world in your eyes. Thats the whole point of why she asks you that - she is not asking "Comparing the individual features, do I match the modern standard of beauty better than other girls?". She is asking "Are your feelings for me strong enough that I look beautiful to you?".vdgmprgrmr said:I'm too cold to be a romantic.
When girls in school become interested in me, it's usually because they've noticed that I try to keep things fair. And I don't lie.
But then if we actually do get together, it becomes a problem, because I won't always take her side in arguments if she's wrong. And I'll willfully argue against her, which is apparently not cool in society today. And chances are she's Christian, because this is Oklahoma, and I'm definitely an atheist. Also, "Would you say I'm hot?" "I'd say you're pretty average." "I hate you!"
What the hell ever happened to telling the truth, no matter what it is. Are people today just too weak for reality or something? What's so wrong with 'average' anyway? Most people are average, that's why it's called average. No matter who you are, the odds of you being 'average' far surpass the odds of you being above or below average.
*shakes head* That's quite a generalization and a negative one at that.jockslap said:simple, its a conspiracy. Women are specifically built by the powers that be to confuse the shit out of men, its just a fact. They claim not to understand us...but its a lie, they know everything about us and can read us like a book, and they enjoy asking men questions like "do you think i look fat?" just to watch them squirm. Have you ever wondered why all the print on womens' T-shirts is always on the breasts? It's simply because they wanna mess with our heads, u wanna read it but the challenge if figuring out how to read it without getting caught, because you know she doesnt think your actually READING.
Indigo: Depends on the person. Some people date because they really feel that the person in question is a person they would spend the rest of their life with. Some people date because they want a regular source of sex. The problems do not arise so much from these varying viewpoints, as much as when they collide. If a girl wants to be told she's pretty and needs that reassurance, she should date someone who would do it. I.E you and me. If the person she's dating is cold, tends to be brutally honest and calculating rather than emotional, she should expect no more from him. Ice doesn't melt just because you like it.jockslap said:Perhaps the correct answer would be "You're certainly the most beautiful girl in my life!" and then you should be able to avoid lying while still making her feel pretty...tactful solutuion eh?Indigo_Dingo said:Yes, and I do respect his honesty, but - and this is really the major thing - if he was in said relationship he really should have felt it. And he should also relize she has every right to be pissed off.ninjablu said:I agree and disagree. She wants to be the prettiest world in the other's eyes, but I think he did the right thing. Otherwise he's just telling her she's beautiful to make her feel good and while this is all well and good if the intentions are correct, if he's doing it to get in her pants or just because she wants to hear it then there's no real purpose. Honesty is still the best choice.Indigo_Dingo said:The problem is that she wants to be the prettiest girl in the world in your eyes. Thats the whole point of why she asks you that - she is not asking "Comparing the individual features, do I match the modern standard of beauty better than other girls?". She is asking "Are your feelings for me strong enough that I look beautiful to you?".vdgmprgrmr said:I'm too cold to be a romantic.
When girls in school become interested in me, it's usually because they've noticed that I try to keep things fair. And I don't lie.
But then if we actually do get together, it becomes a problem, because I won't always take her side in arguments if she's wrong. And I'll willfully argue against her, which is apparently not cool in society today. And chances are she's Christian, because this is Oklahoma, and I'm definitely an atheist. Also, "Would you say I'm hot?" "I'd say you're pretty average." "I hate you!"
What the hell ever happened to telling the truth, no matter what it is. Are people today just too weak for reality or something? What's so wrong with 'average' anyway? Most people are average, that's why it's called average. No matter who you are, the odds of you being 'average' far surpass the odds of you being above or below average.
He's correct, actually. The question "Does this make me look fat" is not an honest question, but instead a test. Yet women ask it all the time.Clov3r said:*shakes head* That's quite a generalization and a negative one at that.jockslap said:simple, its a conspiracy. Women are specifically built by the powers that be to confuse the shit out of men, its just a fact. They claim not to understand us...but its a lie, they know everything about us and can read us like a book, and they enjoy asking men questions like "do you think i look fat?" just to watch them squirm. Have you ever wondered why all the print on womens' T-shirts is always on the breasts? It's simply because they wanna mess with our heads, u wanna read it but the challenge if figuring out how to read it without getting caught, because you know she doesnt think your actually READING.
Way to show me (a woman) how mature you are :]
Well, he's not completely wrong. I have met girls who try to find stuff to get upset and sulk about. Whether thats because they like the attention, or it's a power game, or they're just bitchy, I have no clue. I know the women who do this are probably a minority, but christ, they give all women a bad name >_>Clov3r said:*shakes head* That's quite a generalization and a negative one at that.jockslap said:simple, its a conspiracy. Women are specifically built by the powers that be to confuse the shit out of men, its just a fact. They claim not to understand us...but its a lie, they know everything about us and can read us like a book, and they enjoy asking men questions like "do you think i look fat?" just to watch them squirm. Have you ever wondered why all the print on womens' T-shirts is always on the breasts? It's simply because they wanna mess with our heads, u wanna read it but the challenge if figuring out how to read it without getting caught, because you know she doesnt think your actually READING.
Way to show me (a woman) how mature you are :]
i dont know if you noticed but it was a joke...Clov3r said:*shakes head* That's quite a generalization and a negative one at that.jockslap said:simple, its a conspiracy. Women are specifically built by the powers that be to confuse the shit out of men, its just a fact. They claim not to understand us...but its a lie, they know everything about us and can read us like a book, and they enjoy asking men questions like "do you think i look fat?" just to watch them squirm. Have you ever wondered why all the print on womens' T-shirts is always on the breasts? It's simply because they wanna mess with our heads, u wanna read it but the challenge if figuring out how to read it without getting caught, because you know she doesnt think your actually READING.
Way to show me (a woman) how mature you are :]
actually, since it appears im right, ive decided it wasnt a joke but a subconscious stroke of genious and that's the story im sticking with.jockslap said:i dont know if you noticed but it was a joke...Clov3r said:*shakes head* That's quite a generalization and a negative one at that.jockslap said:simple, its a conspiracy. Women are specifically built by the powers that be to confuse the shit out of men, its just a fact. They claim not to understand us...but its a lie, they know everything about us and can read us like a book, and they enjoy asking men questions like "do you think i look fat?" just to watch them squirm. Have you ever wondered why all the print on womens' T-shirts is always on the breasts? It's simply because they wanna mess with our heads, u wanna read it but the challenge if figuring out how to read it without getting caught, because you know she doesnt think your actually READING.
Way to show me (a woman) how mature you are :]
Nor do I blame you. I'm just making the point that even though you're against them, many people of both genders aren't. And I don't think he's really a casual sex dater, because he's too cold not too good at lying.Indigo_Dingo said:Like I said, if he was in a relationship he should have had the former feelings. I am opposed in a major way to those kind of casual sex relationships.ninjablu said:Indigo: Depends on the person. Some people date because they really feel that the person in question is a person they would spend the rest of their life with. Some people date because they want a regular source of sex. The problems do not arise so much from these varying viewpoints, as much as when they collide. If a girl wants to be told she's pretty and needs that reassurance, she should date someone who would do it. I.E you and me. If the person she's dating is cold, tends to be brutally honest and calculating rather than emotional, she should expect no more from him. Ice doesn't melt just because you like it.jockslap said:Perhaps the correct answer would be "You're certainly the most beautiful girl in my life!" and then you should be able to avoid lying while still making her feel pretty...tactful solutuion eh?Indigo_Dingo said:Yes, and I do respect his honesty, but - and this is really the major thing - if he was in said relationship he really should have felt it. And he should also relize she has every right to be pissed off.ninjablu said:I agree and disagree. She wants to be the prettiest world in the other's eyes, but I think he did the right thing. Otherwise he's just telling her she's beautiful to make her feel good and while this is all well and good if the intentions are correct, if he's doing it to get in her pants or just because she wants to hear it then there's no real purpose. Honesty is still the best choice.Indigo_Dingo said:The problem is that she wants to be the prettiest girl in the world in your eyes. Thats the whole point of why she asks you that - she is not asking "Comparing the individual features, do I match the modern standard of beauty better than other girls?". She is asking "Are your feelings for me strong enough that I look beautiful to you?".vdgmprgrmr said:I'm too cold to be a romantic.
When girls in school become interested in me, it's usually because they've noticed that I try to keep things fair. And I don't lie.
But then if we actually do get together, it becomes a problem, because I won't always take her side in arguments if she's wrong. And I'll willfully argue against her, which is apparently not cool in society today. And chances are she's Christian, because this is Oklahoma, and I'm definitely an atheist. Also, "Would you say I'm hot?" "I'd say you're pretty average." "I hate you!"
What the hell ever happened to telling the truth, no matter what it is. Are people today just too weak for reality or something? What's so wrong with 'average' anyway? Most people are average, that's why it's called average. No matter who you are, the odds of you being 'average' far surpass the odds of you being above or below average.
EDIT: I agree he should have sen it coming however.
Jockslap: makes sense to me.