Poll: Are Wolves/Dogs Carnivores or Omnivores?

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keptsimple said:
Snowalker said:
give your dog some beer and watch them go to town.
DO NOT give beer to your dog. Hops, which are used to make beer, can cause malignant hyperthermia in dogs, likely resulting in death. You do not need to give your dog enough beer to get it drunk to trigger this reaction.
Didn't know that, I apologize. Thanks for the info, but it not like I just give my dog beer a whole lot, I just spill some once and she went nuts over it.
 

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steveo666 said:
Abedeus said:
steveo666 said:
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Sevre90210 said:
I'm going to say Carnivore because they eat mostly meat.
Are humans carnivores because they mostly eat meat?

NO!

But the main mistake is the poll itself - wolves are carnivores and they often eat from corpses.

Dogs can eat anything. Wolves can't eat vegetables, dogs can.

megapenguinx said:
steveo666 said:
megapenguinx said:
Omnivores, but they need to eat meat. I don't think they can survive on grain alone (and still be strong).
you can get vegetarian dog food :p
Hence the bit at the end. I don't think it's healthy to make your dog a vegetarian.
It's not. Dogs can't adapt to being only vegetarians. They have different bodies than humans and honestly? I think that's a case of animal cruelty.
yes feeding them soley a vegetarian human's diet would be wrong,

feeding a dog a humans diet is wrong to boot, however the beautiful thing about the anatomy of most animals is that its not suposed to get the correct diet

your body would never get the optimal nutrients required for a perfect diet in the wild, so it accepts this, the body is far more versatile than you can imagine, as are all animals

and i find it amusing that you believe that feeding an animal a slightly different diet is animal abuse, compared to having thousands of cows in steel cages overfed and then slaughtered
I never compared slowly killing animals' bodies by changing their natural diet to caged cows.

You are have mistaken human body, capable of adapting to almost every diet, with dog diets. For instance, to get proteins, you need to eat a lot of meat, like dogs do. If they change dog's diet to a vegetarian one, what are they going to eat? Grass? NUTS!?
hense why you buy the vegetarian dog food specially not throw lots of green stuff at it
The question is... why would you do that in the first place?

Animals don't think about the global domination of people or animals eating meat. They don't care about it. They also don't benefit from it. Bah, it might even be harmful!

My point stands - forcing an animal to eat something that he might not like or may harm is animal cruelty. Same as feeding your children vegetarian food. Or worse, vegan, as it may exclude MILK...
thus why you buy proper vegetarian/vegan food not spend all day eating nuts and berries,
all nutritional requirements can be met easily so long as you eat responsibly.

breeding and slaurghtering animals could also be considered animal cruelty,
you dont force the dog to eat anything, you putit on the dog bowl and he chooses to eat it.
Breeding and slaughtering has been since hundreds of years.

Dogs eating responsibly? Jesus, no.

Also, this is forcing. Dog is hungry, he notices some crap he doesn't like in the bowl, and it's either eating garbage or starving. My dog loves meat, she doesn't like some dog food, but if she's VERY hungry, she will eat it.

Dogs like eating meat. They are omnivores, like people, but they like meat MORE. You still haven't answered why would you try to turn a dog vegetarian.

That's just stupid.
keptsimple said:
Snowalker said:
give your dog some beer and watch them go to town.
DO NOT give beer to your dog. Hops, which are used to make beer, can cause malignant hyperthermia in dogs, likely resulting in death. You do not need to give your dog enough beer to get it drunk to trigger this reaction.
Yeah, beer is bad. But my dog loves the stuff they add to tiramisu. You know, the one that tastes like eggnog... Oh, it is eggnog, right? Then yeah, my dog loves "drinking" it.
 

magicmonkeybars

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a wolves/dogs teeth are those of a carnivore just because wolves and dogs are opportunistic feeders doesn't make them omnivorse.
 

johnman

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My dog loves any kitchen scraps, rice, potatoes, stalks, carrots.
They will eat anything
 

Cpt Morgan

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I think wolves are carnivorous and dogs are omnivorous. Dogs have been bred to be pretty useless and eat everything except chocolate.
 

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They eat grass, which might be for a digestive reason I am unfamiliar with, but it still happens. Plus, I feel that domesticated dogs will eat just about anything that tastes good. I've fed my dog everything from apricots to zucchini.
 

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Omnivores are distinguished by their ability to live off by eating both plants and animals. Dogs cannot live without meat no matter what else they're willing to scarf down. My cat loves rye bread but that doesn't make her any less of an obligate carnivore.

And vegan food... I would personally like to smack anyone who thinks of converting their carnivorous pet into a vegan. If you can't deal with the fact that those fluffy cute kittens or puppies that you saw in an ad are little killers that need to eat other animals to survive, get a goddamn guinea pig.
 

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steveo666 said:
Abedeus said:
steveo666 said:
Abedeus said:
steveo666 said:
Abedeus said:
steveo666 said:
Abedeus said:
Sevre90210 said:
I'm going to say Carnivore because they eat mostly meat.
Are humans carnivores because they mostly eat meat?

NO!

But the main mistake is the poll itself - wolves are carnivores and they often eat from corpses.

Dogs can eat anything. Wolves can't eat vegetables, dogs can.

megapenguinx said:
steveo666 said:
megapenguinx said:
Omnivores, but they need to eat meat. I don't think they can survive on grain alone (and still be strong).
you can get vegetarian dog food :p
Hence the bit at the end. I don't think it's healthy to make your dog a vegetarian.
It's not. Dogs can't adapt to being only vegetarians. They have different bodies than humans and honestly? I think that's a case of animal cruelty.
yes feeding them soley a vegetarian human's diet would be wrong,

feeding a dog a humans diet is wrong to boot, however the beautiful thing about the anatomy of most animals is that its not suposed to get the correct diet

your body would never get the optimal nutrients required for a perfect diet in the wild, so it accepts this, the body is far more versatile than you can imagine, as are all animals

and i find it amusing that you believe that feeding an animal a slightly different diet is animal abuse, compared to having thousands of cows in steel cages overfed and then slaughtered
I never compared slowly killing animals' bodies by changing their natural diet to caged cows.

You are have mistaken human body, capable of adapting to almost every diet, with dog diets. For instance, to get proteins, you need to eat a lot of meat, like dogs do. If they change dog's diet to a vegetarian one, what are they going to eat? Grass? NUTS!?
hense why you buy the vegetarian dog food specially not throw lots of green stuff at it
The question is... why would you do that in the first place?

Animals don't think about the global domination of people or animals eating meat. They don't care about it. They also don't benefit from it. Bah, it might even be harmful!

My point stands - forcing an animal to eat something that he might not like or may harm is animal cruelty. Same as feeding your children vegetarian food. Or worse, vegan, as it may exclude MILK...
thus why you buy proper vegetarian/vegan food not spend all day eating nuts and berries,
all nutritional requirements can be met easily so long as you eat responsibly.

breeding and slaurghtering animals could also be considered animal cruelty,
you dont force the dog to eat anything, you putit on the dog bowl and he chooses to eat it.
Breeding and slaughtering has been since hundreds of years.

Dogs eating responsibly? Jesus, no.

Also, this is forcing. Dog is hungry, he notices some crap he doesn't like in the bowl, and it's either eating garbage or starving. My dog loves meat, she doesn't like some dog food, but if she's VERY hungry, she will eat it.

Dogs like eating meat. They are omnivores, like people, but they like meat MORE. You still haven't answered why would you try to turn a dog vegetarian.

That's just stupid.
keptsimple said:
Snowalker said:
give your dog some beer and watch them go to town.
DO NOT give beer to your dog. Hops, which are used to make beer, can cause malignant hyperthermia in dogs, likely resulting in death. You do not need to give your dog enough beer to get it drunk to trigger this reaction.
Yeah, beer is bad. But my dog loves the stuff they add to tiramisu. You know, the one that tastes like eggnog... Oh, it is eggnog, right? Then yeah, my dog loves "drinking" it.
meat from humans probably tastes awesome, why dont you try it?
just because something tastes good doesnt you should eat it

ever heard of a dog doing a hunger strike?, ever heard of a dog eating out of a garbage can rather than eating vegetarian dog food?,

dogs lack the complexity to care weather they are eating meat or vegetarian food, they are utterly indifferent
cows on the otherhand do care if they are going to be lead into a slaughter house
1. I'm not a cannibal. It's not natural. Are you comparing humans eating humans to dogs eating dogs? They don't do it. Stop being ignorant.

2. No, dogs don't do hunger strikes. They don't have enough intelligence to understand the concept of it. They have natural needs, like you notice how dogs always either sniff each other's butts or bark for no reason. They don't control it, that's their nature.

3. Dogs care about meat, because if you show them a carrot or a stake, they will FOR SURE take the stake. My dog would rather not eat anything that eat vegetables.

4. Cows are too stupid to know that they are going to a slaughter house. They might be confused, but nobody can tell them what's going on.


edit: Give me a viable reason why should a dog be vegetarian or stop talking.
 

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Carnivore. They can technically live off of other foodstuffs but meat, but it's not a very healthy lifestyle; which would kill them in the wild.
See Tofu-Lion [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRSLQu-d6ZQ].
 

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steveo666 said:
ever heard of a dog doing a hunger strike?, ever heard of a dog eating out of a garbage can rather than eating vegetarian dog food?,

dogs lack the complexity to care weather they are eating meat or vegetarian food, they are utterly indifferent
cows on the otherhand do care if they are going to be lead into a slaughter house
Dogs lack the complexity to fully understand what they're putting into their mouths. Incidentally, their digestive system isn't complex enough to break down all the crap that gets in there. While I haven't heard of dogs going on hunger strike, I've heard and I keep hearing of obese dogs, obese dogs that are diagnosed as malnourished despite being fat, dogs with allergies, dogs with bad stomachs, and dogs that have diabetes. Have you ever looked what vegan dog foods have in them? Have you ever looked what the horrible, cheap dog food brands you buy from markets have in the food? Both have about the same ingredients, except that vegan dog food has a bit less meat than the crappy food. Corn meal, wheat, brewer's yeast, beet pulp, salt, soy beans, food colouring, sugar etc. None of this is proper food for dogs and crap like this is why there are so many sick dogs. Sick cats too, cats are so obese nowadays that it has warped the very image of a healthy cat: people think they're supposed to be "a little pudgy".
 

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dogs are predominantly carnivores but they can eat grains/veggies (my dog loves peanuts) they usually prefer meat though.
 

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steveo666 said:
because apes are nothing special, the fact a branch of them (us) gained sentience was a complete chance, eventually another species will gain sentience, it is inevitable, do you really want a cow-man to hunt and mow us (and our pets) down because we butchered their kind
Bla bla bla

You have officially lost the argument due to loss of arguments.

Stop talking now and save yourself humiliation.
 

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steveo666 said:
ive give the whole its less cruel to give a dog food thats equally nutrisios than to execute cows reason atleast three times
Yeah, because it's much less cruel to give the dog diabetes and have it die of malnutrition or let it suffer from food allergies caused by grain. If you can't provide an animal with the kind of nutrition that its body is adapted to feed on, you don't deserve said animal.
 

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steveo666 said:
because apes are nothing special, the fact a branch of them (us) gained sentience was a complete chance, eventually another species will gain sentience, it is inevitable, do you really want a cow-man to hunt and mow us (and our pets) down because we butchered their kind
another species won't gain sentience unless humans die out, so that is a null point. why wont they gain sentience? because we dont allow them to evolve. even if they did gain sentience we have technology, they wouldn't, ergo if it came to some sort of war of species we would win. by a landslide.
now crawl back under your bridge and stop preaching to us.