Poll: Are you Human?
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I feel more like an empty shell that was human once. Sub-human. I am stricken with such a degree of apathy that I can't really care for anything, even myself. Though I was not always like this. More like I slowly degraded to this.
YES!!
because i was raised with a pre-stablished set of ideas and thoughts, but i still have free will and a personal image, i achieve things my way and do what i want even thought i was thaught otherwise (following the path of the father is not always the truth)
in a world where every single living thing (besides humans) grows and expands in enviroments "stablished" for them and relies on instinct, being able to rationalize my actions makes me "human"
i´m worthy of my life because i say so, its kind of a no brainer, i don´t need to find some "meaningfull" and "deep" thought into this, if i say something is real, then by all means IT IS REAL, and right now, i say i am worthy of my life, why?? well, because I SAY SO and if you need proof or something else, look into yourselve, not everyone needs a "deep" answer for things, its my fundation and my idea it might seem like a stupid thought, but why would i care about something so trivial??, being concerned about you having a "higher purpose" or a "destiny" is stupid and pointles, if there is a destiny then you will fulfill it, if there is a "higher purpose" then you will achieve it, and if there is none of those, then why botter caring?, believe me, the second you "doubth" you are worthy of your life you are screwed, and that leads to "suicidal" thoughts that are more harmful than good (or who knows, perhaps they will find an answer that suits them and become more enligtend, i dont know how other people work).
hell yes i value this life
also, the bit about "content" or "Happy" seems kind of a moot point, after all, IF i´m content i have every right to be so, not everyone needs a "drive" or a "motive" to "grow" if they dont want too, its a choice in life, and choosing is part of being HUMAN (whatever someone else things about it) and if i´m happy, well, more power to me!
because i was raised with a pre-stablished set of ideas and thoughts, but i still have free will and a personal image, i achieve things my way and do what i want even thought i was thaught otherwise (following the path of the father is not always the truth)
in a world where every single living thing (besides humans) grows and expands in enviroments "stablished" for them and relies on instinct, being able to rationalize my actions makes me "human"
silversnake4133 said:
i´m worthy of my life because i say so, its kind of a no brainer, i don´t need to find some "meaningfull" and "deep" thought into this, if i say something is real, then by all means IT IS REAL, and right now, i say i am worthy of my life, why?? well, because I SAY SO and if you need proof or something else, look into yourselve, not everyone needs a "deep" answer for things, its my fundation and my idea it might seem like a stupid thought, but why would i care about something so trivial??, being concerned about you having a "higher purpose" or a "destiny" is stupid and pointles, if there is a destiny then you will fulfill it, if there is a "higher purpose" then you will achieve it, and if there is none of those, then why botter caring?, believe me, the second you "doubth" you are worthy of your life you are screwed, and that leads to "suicidal" thoughts that are more harmful than good (or who knows, perhaps they will find an answer that suits them and become more enligtend, i dont know how other people work).
hell yes i value this life
also, the bit about "content" or "Happy" seems kind of a moot point, after all, IF i´m content i have every right to be so, not everyone needs a "drive" or a "motive" to "grow" if they dont want too, its a choice in life, and choosing is part of being HUMAN (whatever someone else things about it) and if i´m happy, well, more power to me!
Yes, because, well that me see. I can go out in sunlight without burning up, I don't grow extra hair during full moons, and I don't have a tail. Yep I'm pretty sure I'm human.
I experienced a prolonged period of not being human/suffering from depression, during which I essentially experienced no emotion and no attachment to anything in the world.
Having recovered from that, I feel justified in saying that now I am human, yes.
Having recovered from that, I feel justified in saying that now I am human, yes.
I voted yes, because my dictionary says:
hu·man
[hyoo-muhn or, often, yoo-]
-adjective
1. - of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or having the nature of people: human frailty.
Not entirely sure here. the nature of people does not have a widely accepted answer.
2. - consisting of people: the human race.
Check.
3. - of or pertaining to the social aspect of people: human affairs.
Check.
4. - sympathetic; humane: a warmly human understanding.
Check.
That's 3 out of 4.
Alright, that might be a bit simplified, but my point is I have a lot of characteristics that are defined ''human''.
hu·man
[hyoo-muhn or, often, yoo-]
-adjective
1. - of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or having the nature of people: human frailty.
Not entirely sure here. the nature of people does not have a widely accepted answer.
2. - consisting of people: the human race.
Check.
3. - of or pertaining to the social aspect of people: human affairs.
Check.
4. - sympathetic; humane: a warmly human understanding.
Check.
That's 3 out of 4.
Alright, that might be a bit simplified, but my point is I have a lot of characteristics that are defined ''human''.
Fuck if I know.
I'm probably missing the question, but we can't know if this is reality or something else. We could all be actual creatures as easily as we could all be figments of someone else's dream (or in a simulated reality like the Matrix). So I took this question to mean "Do you think we exist?" The answer is above...
"We have rational thoughts, animals do not, therefore we are 'human' (and better or whatever)"
You cannot tell if animals have rational thoughts and operate on logic. I think they do, humans happened to create a system of language that gives them the ability to communicate these thoughts easily to other humans and to themselves. Animals have no established system of language to communicate their ideas, and we erroniously assume it is because they are incapable of doing so. And why is intelligence called instict in non-humans? If a bird constructs a nest from sticks to raise her young in, we call it instictual behavior. It just "knows" it has to do that. Couldn't it have figured it out by itself? It might have thought (if its thoughts were translated to english...) "Gee, I need somewhere to lay these eggs where nothing will eat me. How about a tree? Hrmm, I need to put something here first... Ohh I'll just rip off some of these things around me (sticks) and lay them down. Yays! A nest!" Or maybe it learned from its parents and from its youth. That is no different that what humans do, we learn literally everything from our enviroment (parents, experiences, etc) or logic. We call it intelligence. Animals do the same thing and we call it instict. Animals are smart too!
Sorry for the rant, I just get angry when people differentciate humans by saying they have intelligence and rational thought and animals don't. Because they probably do.
I'm probably missing the question, but we can't know if this is reality or something else. We could all be actual creatures as easily as we could all be figments of someone else's dream (or in a simulated reality like the Matrix). So I took this question to mean "Do you think we exist?" The answer is above...
I hate it when people say this...HentMas said:
"We have rational thoughts, animals do not, therefore we are 'human' (and better or whatever)"
You cannot tell if animals have rational thoughts and operate on logic. I think they do, humans happened to create a system of language that gives them the ability to communicate these thoughts easily to other humans and to themselves. Animals have no established system of language to communicate their ideas, and we erroniously assume it is because they are incapable of doing so. And why is intelligence called instict in non-humans? If a bird constructs a nest from sticks to raise her young in, we call it instictual behavior. It just "knows" it has to do that. Couldn't it have figured it out by itself? It might have thought (if its thoughts were translated to english...) "Gee, I need somewhere to lay these eggs where nothing will eat me. How about a tree? Hrmm, I need to put something here first... Ohh I'll just rip off some of these things around me (sticks) and lay them down. Yays! A nest!" Or maybe it learned from its parents and from its youth. That is no different that what humans do, we learn literally everything from our enviroment (parents, experiences, etc) or logic. We call it intelligence. Animals do the same thing and we call it instict. Animals are smart too!
Sorry for the rant, I just get angry when people differentciate humans by saying they have intelligence and rational thought and animals don't. Because they probably do.
If I am a human being, then that must mean that everything I do is human
-Why? What makes you strongly believe that you are human?I am a human being, therefore what I do is human.
What makes you unique and worthy of the life that was given to you and had yet to be taken away? I was the first sperm to the egg? I don't see how being unique means you are human. There are more than 6billion people in the world, it is hard to be unique out of 6billion people.
Do you value this life? Well I'm not putting my life at risk all the time, so, yes?
Are you happy or content? Happy I guess.
-Why? What makes you strongly believe that you are human?I am a human being, therefore what I do is human.
What makes you unique and worthy of the life that was given to you and had yet to be taken away? I was the first sperm to the egg? I don't see how being unique means you are human. There are more than 6billion people in the world, it is hard to be unique out of 6billion people.
Do you value this life? Well I'm not putting my life at risk all the time, so, yes?
Are you happy or content? Happy I guess.
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nope; my only connection to this insipid race of monkeys is genetic, and thats debatable. ive found no single human i can relate with in even a basic way.
i categorize earth sapients in the following way: if, in the spirit of confucianism, you can contemplate a single blade of grass for hours and not get bored (in principle; i mostly mean if you think a good deal about whatever comes your way); then you are likely, for the sake of categorization, an overman/ubermensch/ what-have you. these people (again, in metaphorical principle) will find that no one else finds grass nearly as interesting as they do, and that no one cares to hear about all the neat stuff youve discovered about grass. their every attempt at socialization fails utterly when they cant help but think about subjects everyone would rather make ignorant comments about and move on. they may find others of their kind, or even some of the more uniquely-minded (could just be crazy people) humans to relate with... but i havent found any. these are the people who are scorned as outcasts and crazies their whole lives, only to be appreciated a century after their death by more 'civilized' humans; or after the masses completely abuse and misuse some invention of theirs. (you know, superman was originally a villian based on the actual nietzschean idea of 'superman'?)
however, if you are the kind that couldnt contemplate a single cutscene for 5 seconds without hitting the 'skip' button, then you are human; the same primates that not 50000 years ago beat each other with sticks for food and women. many lucky people find themselves in the middle; human enough to relate to them and have a place, if a small niche of a place, in society, but thoughtful enough to appreciate many of the finer details that escape the drooling masses. lucky bastards.
i categorize earth sapients in the following way: if, in the spirit of confucianism, you can contemplate a single blade of grass for hours and not get bored (in principle; i mostly mean if you think a good deal about whatever comes your way); then you are likely, for the sake of categorization, an overman/ubermensch/ what-have you. these people (again, in metaphorical principle) will find that no one else finds grass nearly as interesting as they do, and that no one cares to hear about all the neat stuff youve discovered about grass. their every attempt at socialization fails utterly when they cant help but think about subjects everyone would rather make ignorant comments about and move on. they may find others of their kind, or even some of the more uniquely-minded (could just be crazy people) humans to relate with... but i havent found any. these are the people who are scorned as outcasts and crazies their whole lives, only to be appreciated a century after their death by more 'civilized' humans; or after the masses completely abuse and misuse some invention of theirs. (you know, superman was originally a villian based on the actual nietzschean idea of 'superman'?)
however, if you are the kind that couldnt contemplate a single cutscene for 5 seconds without hitting the 'skip' button, then you are human; the same primates that not 50000 years ago beat each other with sticks for food and women. many lucky people find themselves in the middle; human enough to relate to them and have a place, if a small niche of a place, in society, but thoughtful enough to appreciate many of the finer details that escape the drooling masses. lucky bastards.
Yes, but I don't just want the planet cleared of life anymore, I want it cleared from the universe, because it's an ugly ball of mud.Redlin5 said:
oh, yes I can, whatever you believe you can believe and we wont touch common ground because in the end there is not conclusive evidence of either one of our thoughts being truezfactor said:
woah woah woah, i never said they cant comunicate among each other!, i stated that they are ruled by "Instinct" but i never said anything about comunication, of course i think they can (althought primitively) comunicate among each other and there is evidence of that
you are right!! except the "line" between "instinct" and "rationalization" is when no 2 humans create the same "house" but all the nests have the same basic structure (among the same species) and "that" is why its instinct, the ability to be creative more than the ability of rational thought is one of the maing things that gives us the edge and the reason why i believe on what was stated before.
no need to be sorry, you raise various valid points, but i still think differently than you, thats all.