Poll: Battlefield 3: PC or 360?
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1: I've been kicked from servers for enough reasons to be wary of any server. Such reasons include, but are not limited to:
- Doing too good as Commander
- Defending myself as Commander
- Doing too well in the Tank
- Doing too well in the Walker
- Keeping the Transport chopper alive too long
- Not being in a clan
- Refusing to join a clan
- Single-handedly destroying a Titan
- Etc.
2: I never counts mods as a "positive". User generated content generally breaks down as such:
96% Absolute, mind-blowing garbage
3% Decent
1% Actually worthwhile, enjoyable or helpful content
And often that 1% is still surpassed in every way by developer content.
3: I have 2 people I play PC games with. 2 for TW: Shogun 2, 1 for Dawn of War. All other Pc games I play by myself. I have 4 friends I play Halo or MW or occasionally the odd game here or there. Thats it.
4: I say "silence" because at least on 360 I can Party Chat with those 4 people while I play, whereas on PC there will be no one.
5: I say the PC community is terrible because they are exactly the same as the console community; except they try to hide it beneath a facade of superiority and deny it.
- Doing too good as Commander
- Defending myself as Commander
- Doing too well in the Tank
- Doing too well in the Walker
- Keeping the Transport chopper alive too long
- Not being in a clan
- Refusing to join a clan
- Single-handedly destroying a Titan
- Etc.
2: I never counts mods as a "positive". User generated content generally breaks down as such:
96% Absolute, mind-blowing garbage
3% Decent
1% Actually worthwhile, enjoyable or helpful content
And often that 1% is still surpassed in every way by developer content.
3: I have 2 people I play PC games with. 2 for TW: Shogun 2, 1 for Dawn of War. All other Pc games I play by myself. I have 4 friends I play Halo or MW or occasionally the odd game here or there. Thats it.
4: I say "silence" because at least on 360 I can Party Chat with those 4 people while I play, whereas on PC there will be no one.
5: I say the PC community is terrible because they are exactly the same as the console community; except they try to hide it beneath a facade of superiority and deny it.
PC, and the one and only reason, which trumps anything good or bad about either system, FPS was made to be played with a MOUSE AND KEYBOARD THANK YOU.Paragon Fury said:
For crying out loud, I'm sorry, but you're the straw that has broken my camel of tolerance's back, seriously, what is wrong with a mouse and keyboard? Is it too easy? What is it?
You know why we don't do cross-platform multiplayer, when it comes to shooters? Because the PC guys would kick the absolute shit out of the console guys, its just not even a fair comparison, the console guys are driving harleys, and the PC guys MotoGP bikes, just not fair at all, so that's why they dont' bother.
forget the 64 players, forget the 360 achievements, BF3 was designed to be played on PC, with a mouse and keyboard. Period.
Oh, and as for the squad thing, just go get yourself a good headset with a mic, wireless or usb or 3.5 green and pink, it doesn't matter, that solves that issue, besides 7.1 headphones is infinitely a greater experience (not to mention cheaper, more compact, simplier) that setting up 7 speakers in what will likely be a bedroom.
EDIT: Thankfully, almost 80% of other poll participants agree with me. Further reasons, you just bought a gaming PC, presumably to actually 'play games on' and, the PC version will be cheaper. There's no question here, PC is the only option for you. Those who buy it on Xbox are those not fortunate enough to afford/understand the benefits of a gaming PC.
Why joypad?Conza said:
Because walking, running, climbing, stance changing, driving and piloting all are much easier, natural and control better with the layout of a controller and joysticks. Sure, you might be able to aim a bit better with a mouse, but a joypad with the sensitivity cranked and a set of FPSFreek sticks more than makes up for that.
Better graphics, superior framerate, larger battles, far superior controls.
And are you claiming the 360 community is better than the PC community?
I've played shooters online on a 360 (and PS3, for that matter), and I wasn't particularly impressed.
To me, the choice seems obvious.
Just try it.
I challenge you to not get dominated.
And are you claiming the 360 community is better than the PC community?
I've played shooters online on a 360 (and PS3, for that matter), and I wasn't particularly impressed.
To me, the choice seems obvious.
Play any FPS game on the PC, like TF2 or whatever, with your 360 pad.Paragon Fury said:
Just try it.
I challenge you to not get dominated.
PC. Definitely.
Battlefield has always been a series that was always meant to be on PC. Even though it is on consoles i think it will be one of the few cross console games with PC users in mind. Also if your internet can handle it 64-Multiplayer for PC will be pretty good on the big maps.
PS. I can't use thumbsticks to aim accurately. Mouse is the only way
Battlefield has always been a series that was always meant to be on PC. Even though it is on consoles i think it will be one of the few cross console games with PC users in mind. Also if your internet can handle it 64-Multiplayer for PC will be pretty good on the big maps.
PS. I can't use thumbsticks to aim accurately. Mouse is the only way
So you like joypad because its easier?Paragon Fury said:
News flash pal, this is a 'shooting game', walking is meant to be done with WASD and you're meant to look around with a mouse. The latter point, the entire reason this is better for a PC.
Even if the graphics were superior on a console, you would still buy the PC version, because of the heightened control.
Pre-order it now, just, just go do it.
Depending on how this plays out in the beta. I will buy PC if they bring back alot of stuff form BF2, if it remains like it did in the alpha stages then its not BF3; it will become a Bad Company 3. Which is fine and/or dissappointing at the same time. Point is, If im satisfied how beta plays out then PC if not I will get it on 360 on a later date. Either way Im gettin this game.
Id say go for PC just for the bigger player count and whatnot. Im gonna get it on xbox cause friends and shizz instead.
Start playing your PC more than your 360Paragon Fury said:
Well, that's not really an advantage over the PC.
Kind of in response to your response to the people who think that a controller is worse, but running is just as simple, going to prone is faster (push a button rather than hold one down for a second(actually, I have no idea how prone will work on consoles)), and I don't quite understand how a controller has a better layout than a keyboard when you can't look around, aim, and shoot while jumping, reloading, or arming a bomb very well on a controller.
As for driving and piloting, I like being able to take a look around me while doing those things. (alt button)
In reality, it all comes down to personal preference and which one you started with, so this means no one can convince you on this point.
Third party VoIP programs and in-game chat?
So?
That's always good.
Ok then, onto the next part.
Not much to say about that.
These really weigh in more heavily than anything else to me.
Just stick to those few good ones.
Have you played 2142 Assault Lines with 64 people? That gets crazy.
That just depends on the community you play with. Mine, for example...actually wait, that sounds kind of arrogant. I'll just say they're nicer than most people.
In-game voice chat, third party VoIP programs(Skype, Ventrilo) again.
I'm getting the PC version.
And to your below post, yes, it's all opinion. That statement was pure, solid opinion. Just the fact that people disagree with that and actually have a truth to their arguments at the same time that you have a truth to your argument means it was an opinion. And you do not "win" opinion-based arguments. No matter how "right" everyone thinks you are, there's no such thing.
And not moving any fingers to go prone/stay crouched?
Your argument is a little self-defeating, in the fact that half of the actions you can take on a console require moving your right thumb off of the thumbstick that lets you aim or taking your finger off the trigger to push a shoulder button.
But you know, it seems like you're trying so hard to defend getting it on the 360 as a valid choice that you really want it on the 360. So you, specifically you, should get it on the 360.
Until you can prove that the WASD and mouse is somehow more intuitive and natural to flying a plane/helicopter or driving a tank or jeep (Stick vs. buttons), or not having to move any fingers to hit prone/stay crouched I win the movement argument.Waaghpowa said:
And I would use my joypad for more PC games; but pretty much EVERY SINGLE PC GAME OUT THERE has fucking TERRIBLE joypad controls.
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I'm also trying to decide this. I know that my PC will run it (how well I don't know, but I can run Metro 2033 on high settings at a playable frame rate, so I'm hoping I'll be able to play this on high settings).
Problem is, I don't want to deal with Origin, and the majority of my friends play on the xbox 360 (not sure how many of them are getting BF3, since many of them are hardcore Call of Duty fans).
I really do want to play this game with the best possible visuals though, and with the highest player count, so I'll probably be going with PC.
Problem is, I don't want to deal with Origin, and the majority of my friends play on the xbox 360 (not sure how many of them are getting BF3, since many of them are hardcore Call of Duty fans).
I really do want to play this game with the best possible visuals though, and with the highest player count, so I'll probably be going with PC.
I said nothing about WASD being better than gamepad. I'm simply saying that your choice of "superior" control method is based on your opinion. In MY opinion, having to take your thumb off the right joystick constantly for other actions makes aiming clunky.Paragon Fury said:
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Well on PC the framerate that you play at entirely depends on how good the hardware you're running is.natster43 said:
On the xbox 360, since the hardware is the same across the board, then yes, all of them would be getting the same frame rate, and yes, since the xbox 360 is weaker, 30 frames per second is probably the best that it'll get with this game.
Whether you get better than 30 fps on the PC depends on whether or not your PC is good enough to hand it though, so just because you get it on PC doesn't guarantee you a better frame rate than on the xbox.
Ranthus said:Start playing your PC more than your 360Paragon Fury said:
Why? My 360 library IS HUUUUGE, and many more games I want come out on 360 than PC.
Well, that's not really an advantage over the PC.
Kind of in response to your response to the people who think that a controller is worse, but running is just as simple, going to prone is faster (push a button rather than hold one down for a second(actually, I have no idea how prone will work on consoles)), and I don't quite understand how a controller has a better layout than a keyboard when you can't look around, aim, and shoot while jumping, reloading, or arming a bomb very well on a controller.
As for driving and piloting, I like being able to take a look around me while doing those things. (alt button)
In reality, it all comes down to personal preference and which one you started with, so this means no one can convince you on this point.
Third party VoIP programs and in-game chat?
No, as in there will just be no one worth talking to.
So?
That's always good.
Ok then, onto the next part.
Not much to say about that.
These really weigh in more heavily than anything else to me.
Just stick to those few good ones.
If they can be found.
Have you played 2142 Assault Lines with 64 people? That gets crazy.
Yeah...on Leipzig and the other Northern Strike map. Thats about it.
That just depends on the community you play with. Mine, for example...actually wait, that sounds kind of arrogant. I'll just say they're nicer than most people.
In-game voice chat, third party VoIP programs(Skype, Ventrilo) again.
I'm getting the PC version.
And to your below post, yes, it's all opinion. That statement was pure, solid opinion. Just the fact that people disagree with that and actually have a truth to their arguments means it was an opinion.
And not moving any fingers to go prone/stay crouched?
Your argument is a little self-defeating, in the fact that half of the actions you can take on a console require moving your right thumb off of the thumbstick that lets you aim or taking your finger off the trigger to push a shoulder button.
The only thing you need stop aiming for is Jumping, Reloading, Changing Weapons or activating something (IE: Get in vehicle, arm bomb etc). All of those things stop you from shooting or don't require aiming during, so you're safe. At the very worst, you can just claw the the right hand side of your controller, meaning you never have to move anything to do one of those actions.
