I hope they all understand what the word "Boycott" means, ie. not buying something out of protest or to make a statement, and are not just throwing the word around because it sound cool like so many have done before them; you know who I mean.
Poll: Battlefield 3 pre-order DLC BOYCOTT coordination
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Only if objectively soZeZZZZevy said:
For example, Gun X is identical in every way to Y but with 10% less damage through walls.
I'm thinking of stuff like the M4A1 and the ACR in MW2
For *Most* intents and purposes the ACR was superior, same fire rate, lower numbers on recoil(Almost damn near zero) same magcap lower reload times.
But, the M4A1 had better sights and if you were aiming differently you'd end with more headshots from that increased recoil (Me, basically)
For me that M4A1 is an advantage, despite the other being statistically the best choice for the general pop. It's averagely inferior, but there is subjectivity in there.
Unless for some fucking reason explosive ammo is just regular ammo that deals less damage with no + side, there will always be the "me's" that could gain an unfair advantage from it (Compared to the "me's who do not have the weapon unlock"
And it never hurt to have the choice available to everyone for any FPS game ever. What? You gonna cry because your platform is *level* with the others?
Please don't get into the whole mouse+PC spec thing, because that's outwith DICE's responsibility, and is negated at the high level due to money's irrelevance in gaming performance at a low point.
Actually this is fun, I play a lot of CoD ata decent level and I can think of more examples:
EnfieldvCommando - 35-25 damage vs 40-30. Same fire rate, similar enough reload times (don't have off the top of my head) It even has the same centertime+recoil numbers as the Commando
The Enfield is damn near objectively inferior to the Commando/AK, at least in the fields I remember. But: It's got different iron sights. Not better, just some may find it to their taste. They might find it to their taste enough that it's a sidegrade or even an upgrade to them. In this case, I am not one of those people.
I dont agree with the method, sure right now, its just a couple weapons, but soon it will be like perks and actual game play changers. Either way, I'll be getting the game, not on first day, rarely do i do that anymore...
First off, I play on the 360 so no need to worry about that whole mess of a debate. Subjectively yes, the lack of the option is annoying, but it shouldn't be something bad enough to boycott the game, considering there will be plenty of other choices available once you level up a few times.Baneat said:
off topic but I do know of the subjective differences. I always enjoyed the TAR-21 despite its horrendous recoil.
I'm guessing the pre-order people will keep their advantage until the first DLC pack comes out, which I'm willing to bet would let anyone who buys THAT unlock the special weapons. It's all about the moolah, folks.
The bonus weapons/ Items are-
Type 88 LMG with bipod
SKS sniper rifle flash suppressor
lethal armour-piercing flechette ammo for the DAO-12 semi-automatic shotgun with early access to the shotgun
Not that big of a deal
Type 88 LMG with bipod
SKS sniper rifle flash suppressor
lethal armour-piercing flechette ammo for the DAO-12 semi-automatic shotgun with early access to the shotgun
Not that big of a deal
I think it's justifiably a boycott since it's damaging the game's balance for profit, against other full-paying customers who want to buy it at normal times.ZeZZZZevy said:
The Tavor was a great rifle in MW2, it had the highest DPS outside of LMGs and with control, makes it the best assault auto.
BUT ON AVERAGE: it would be best if everyone rocked dat ACR, because there are a lot of shitey players in that game. maybe even more so on the 360? (Based purely on K/D differences (for me) between the two platforms).
Basically, this may be minor, maybe not, but the principle stands, which is what a boycott is about.
They're just special guns...special guns that will be trumped by other guns people will get if they level their players enough. I don't see the problem with this. Not boycotting.
A complete non-issue.
I always like to use the shittiest weapon in Battlefield games, because people least expect it Shittiest weapon =/= best weapon. Like Bad Company, I use the Garand to throw people off, and it usually does.
Because my victim either thinks I'm a noob using a shitty weapon, or a pro having fun, and it's always the latter.
But it's really all quite silly. There isn't much balance in weapons, in games like Battlefield. They're all quite overpowering and useful.
I always like to use the shittiest weapon in Battlefield games, because people least expect it Shittiest weapon =/= best weapon. Like Bad Company, I use the Garand to throw people off, and it usually does.
Because my victim either thinks I'm a noob using a shitty weapon, or a pro having fun, and it's always the latter.
But it's really all quite silly. There isn't much balance in weapons, in games like Battlefield. They're all quite overpowering and useful.
A boycott won't do shit, I really do mean this. Tons of folks boycotted Modern Warfare 2 since there weren't any options for dedicated server hosting. Still, everyone shamefully locked themselves away in their rooms, staring into their monitor screens, enjoying the bane of their dignity.
EA is an unstoppable monster at best when it comes to these particular decisions. They don't care entirely about what you think or want as a single person, but as how many people in the majority that are willing to fetch their wallets at the first sign of opportunity. This is what's new, and it might just stick around forever. I speak of DLC packages of course. Ever since microtransaction systems became popular as well as successful back many years ago, publishers have been dipping into the money hole ever since.
Just buy the damn game, enjoy it, and pray that this easy-scheme dies down soon.
EA is an unstoppable monster at best when it comes to these particular decisions. They don't care entirely about what you think or want as a single person, but as how many people in the majority that are willing to fetch their wallets at the first sign of opportunity. This is what's new, and it might just stick around forever. I speak of DLC packages of course. Ever since microtransaction systems became popular as well as successful back many years ago, publishers have been dipping into the money hole ever since.
Just buy the damn game, enjoy it, and pray that this easy-scheme dies down soon.
Yeah, you people who are crazy enough to pay for a game that will come out months later on the off chance it's as good as the trailer promises go ahead and do this boycott. I'll probably buy this two years from now as I usually do.
AHH but the principle is a FUCKING MASSIVE THINGZeZZZZevy said:
The consequence is the minor thing, but I won't stand for any dev thinking they can do it. It at least worked for the Polycount Pack (As in they didn't do it again, and tried to mitigate their first attempt without gypping the original purchasers), but Valve are nice guys (With some weird motivations atm).
Call me a pissy moaner, say it's just a few weapons in a game which will probably be balanced like shit anyway, but I know firmly where I can stand.
This is really Minor DLC, so honestly I don't care. If it was something along the lines of pre-order and get a map-pack other people have to pay for, then I would call bullshit and be pissed, but for 3 guns that you can get for shelling out a few more bucks I am not going to complain.
Also this is hardly a new tactic, Brink offered pre-ordered dlc, so did New Vegas and a lot of indie games on steam give you tf2 hats for pre-ordering. They add a little incentive to pre-order a game before the reviews get in, and honestly they are usually such minor things that most people won'y complain overmuch.
(See what I am pissed about is EA blocking my Bad Company 2 account because I changed computers and apparently the my old computer that was bought out by the warranty still has it installed... Oh and also the fact they never let me unlock the M1 despite the fact I own 2 copies of battlefield 2. Ah well)
Also this is hardly a new tactic, Brink offered pre-ordered dlc, so did New Vegas and a lot of indie games on steam give you tf2 hats for pre-ordering. They add a little incentive to pre-order a game before the reviews get in, and honestly they are usually such minor things that most people won'y complain overmuch.
(See what I am pissed about is EA blocking my Bad Company 2 account because I changed computers and apparently the my old computer that was bought out by the warranty still has it installed... Oh and also the fact they never let me unlock the M1 despite the fact I own 2 copies of battlefield 2. Ah well)
I only disagree with the exclusive items. The other stuff I'm perfectly ok with. Still, I sent an email.
*Points to EA/DICE backing down in the face of a Bad Company boycott. Also re-implementing dedicated servers is a lot more of a hassle than just making what was once exclusive content unlockable via leveling.PlasmaFrog said:
Giving players extra choice for pre-ordering = advantage. How much of an advantage we don't know but I don't like the sound of some people starting off with a semi-automatic shotgun that's meant to be unlockable at higher levels. Furthermore they get exclusive armour piercing rounds AND the exclusive T88 LMG I remember with fondness from BFBC2? It's not the best thing for a multiplayer-centric game to do in terms of pleasing fans of the series. Also they get the ONLY flash suppressor? I want a flash suppressor!
Also last I saw part of the boycott refers to boycotting the PRE-ORDER of the game, i.e. people are to cancel their pre-orders.
I'll still get the game, I'll probably pre-order too but not until this fuss dies down and I can see an outcome of the boycott. (So basically I won't pre-order till we either win or lose)