Poll: Best Devloper

[Jon Etheridge]

All of those are good, but my personal favorite dev is Team Ico.

 

[Barry93]

Naughty Dog and Insomniac (before the release of R2)

 

[crazy-j]

lol isnt this what march mayhem was for?

 

[BolognaBaloney]

3)Microsoft: Fable,Halo,Gears, conker, Perfect Dark, age of empires

Microsoft didn't make any of these games.

They made Age of Empires, at least.

Nope, thats ensemble studios

If we're going by that, Valve didn't make Half Life, it was the contributions of a number of individuals.

Well, how clever...smart-aleck, valve developed half-life, whereas microsoft published age of empires. There is a difference.

 

[BolognaBaloney]

3)Microsoft: Fable,Halo,Gears, conker, Perfect Dark, age of empires

Microsoft didn't make any of these games.

They made Age of Empires, at least.

Nope, thats ensemble studios

If we're going by that, Valve didn't make Half Life, it was the contributions of a number of individuals.

Well, how clever...smart-aleck, valve developed half-life, whereas microsoft published age of empires. There is a difference.

When Age of Mythology was published, Ensemble were a part of Microsoft.

Yes, and there were 2 age of empires before mythology, so microsoft didn't make age of empires, they owned ensemble when they made the third, but they did not create the series, or the first two games for that matter.

 

[McGee]

Valve for making my most loved FPS's of all time, and for their always free updates.

 

[BolognaBaloney]

3)Microsoft: Fable,Halo,Gears, conker, Perfect Dark, age of empires

Microsoft didn't make any of these games.

They made Age of Empires, at least.

Nope, thats ensemble studios

If we're going by that, Valve didn't make Half Life, it was the contributions of a number of individuals.

Well, how clever...smart-aleck, valve developed half-life, whereas microsoft published age of empires. There is a difference.

When Age of Mythology was published, Ensemble were a part of Microsoft.

Yes, and there were 2 age of empires before mythology, so microsoft didn't make age of empires, they owned ensemble when they made the third, but they did not create the series, or the first two games for that matter.

But they did make the third.

This is the part where you admit that you were wrong: they didn't create the series, or the first game, or the second game, only the third. So as a whole, the series was NOT made by microsoft.

 

[Valiance]

"Best Dev" and "What game would you play" are not the same thing.

Also, I guess you missed March Madness.

Turbine obv.

 

[BolognaBaloney]

3)Microsoft: Fable,Halo,Gears, conker, Perfect Dark, age of empires

Microsoft didn't make any of these games.

They made Age of Empires, at least.

Nope, thats ensemble studios

If we're going by that, Valve didn't make Half Life, it was the contributions of a number of individuals.

Well, how clever...smart-aleck, valve developed half-life, whereas microsoft published age of empires. There is a difference.

When Age of Mythology was published, Ensemble were a part of Microsoft.

Yes, and there were 2 age of empires before mythology, so microsoft didn't make age of empires, they owned ensemble when they made the third, but they did not create the series, or the first two games for that matter.

But they did make the third.

This is the part where you admit that you were wrong: they didn't create the series, or the first game, or the second game, only the third. So as a whole, the series was NOT made by microsoft.

No, but one of the games was made by Microsoft. Obsidian didn't make KOTOR, they made KOTOR II. The fact that they didn't make the first one doesn't nullify the fact that they made the second.

Right, but it also does NOT make them the creator of the series, so your still wrong.

 

[YuheJi]

3)Microsoft: Fable,Halo,Gears, conker, Perfect Dark, age of empires

Microsoft didn't make any of these games.

They made Age of Empires, at least.

Nope, thats ensemble studios

If we're going by that, Valve didn't make Half Life, it was the contributions of a number of individuals.

Well, how clever...smart-aleck, valve developed half-life, whereas microsoft published age of empires. There is a difference.

When Age of Mythology was published, Ensemble were a part of Microsoft.

Yes, and there were 2 age of empires before mythology, so microsoft didn't make age of empires, they owned ensemble when they made the third, but they did not create the series, or the first two games for that matter.

But they did make the third.

And the third is still generally considered the worst out of the series. Not exactly making Microsoft look good.

 

[300lb. Samoan]

I see most of us voted for Valve, as usual. What if Valve makes good on their intentions to transform TF2 into an RPG-like experience, what with the item drops and trading system and all of that bullshit? Could we forgive our favorite developer for ruining one of their best creations?

 

[theSovietConnection]

3)Microsoft: Fable,Halo,Gears, conker, Perfect Dark, age of empires

Microsoft didn't make any of these games.

Haha i know, funny isn't it, and yet these are some of the biggest games from the microsoft camp.

Must i repeat myself

Microsoft game studios is a branch of Microsoft. Epic, Lionhead, Rare, and Now Bungie are all branches as well

Gotta correct you there, Bungie are no longer affiliated with Microsoft.

Anyway, I chose Bethesda, as Fallout and Oblivion own far too many hours of my life.

 

[BolognaBaloney]

3)Microsoft: Fable,Halo,Gears, conker, Perfect Dark, age of empires

Microsoft didn't make any of these games.

They made Age of Empires, at least.

Nope, thats ensemble studios

If we're going by that, Valve didn't make Half Life, it was the contributions of a number of individuals.

Well, how clever...smart-aleck, valve developed half-life, whereas microsoft published age of empires. There is a difference.

When Age of Mythology was published, Ensemble were a part of Microsoft.

Yes, and there were 2 age of empires before mythology, so microsoft didn't make age of empires, they owned ensemble when they made the third, but they did not create the series, or the first two games for that matter.

But they did make the third.

And the third is still generally considered the worst out of the series. Not exactly making Microsoft look good.

I'm not trying to, I'm making a point. People keep missing the difference of what constitutes a publisher and what constitutes a developer. If the development team is a part of the company, then the credit and blame still does go to the company.

But continuing a series does not make you the creator of it.

 

[YuheJi]

I'm not trying to, I'm making a point. People keep missing the difference of what constitutes a publisher and what constitutes a developer. If the development team is a part of the company, then the credit and blame still does go to the company.

Hold on. Just because a development team is a subsidiary of a publishing company does not mean that the games put out were developed by the company. The development team is the developer, and the company is the publisher. In this case, Ensemble is the developer and Microsoft is the publisher.
That would be like saying Take Two developed Sid Meier's Railroads or the two Civ IV expansion packs, because Take Two bought Firaxis back in 2005. Or like Take Two developed BioShock, because they bought 2K Boston and 2K Australia in 2006. Credit goes where credit is due, and it should be to the developers.

 

[BolognaBaloney]

I'm not trying to, I'm making a point. People keep missing the difference of what constitutes a publisher and what constitutes a developer. If the development team is a part of the company, then the credit and blame still does go to the company.

Hold on. Just because a development team is a subsidiary of a publishing company does not mean that the games put out were developed by the company. The development team is the developer, and the company is the publisher. In this case, Ensemble is the developer and Microsoft is the publisher.
That would be like saying Take Two developed Sid Meier's Railroads or the two Civ IV expansion packs, because Take Two bought Firaxis back in 2005. Or like Take Two developed BioShock, because they bought 2K Boston and 2K Australia in 2006. Credit goes where credit is due, and it should be to the developers.

Thank you, i've been trying to tell him that for a long time.

 

[AtticusSP]

Capcom.

 

[BolognaBaloney]

I'm not trying to, I'm making a point. People keep missing the difference of what constitutes a publisher and what constitutes a developer. If the development team is a part of the company, then the credit and blame still does go to the company.

Hold on. Just because a development team is a subsidiary of a publishing company does not mean that the games put out were developed by the company. The development team is the developer, and the company is the publisher. In this case, Ensemble is the developer and Microsoft is the publisher.
That would be like saying Take Two developed Sid Meier's Railroads or the two Civ IV expansion packs, because Take Two bought Firaxis back in 2005. Or like Take Two developed BioShock, because they bought 2K Boston and 2K Australia in 2006. Credit goes where credit is due, and it should be to the developers.

When they're bought, the developers are considered a part of the company, just like when hired, the individuals are considered part of the developer

Again you don't seem to understand that while ensemble was part of microsoft for 3, the first 2 they were not. So microsoft still can not be credited with creating the series, only with producing the third.

 

[YuheJi]

When they're bought, the developers are considered a part of the company, just like when hired, the individuals are considered part of the developer

By that logic, then it should not be Relic up there, but THQ; not BioWare, but EA. In fact, the only two private developers on the poll are Valve and id, with Bethesda being both a publisher and developer.
But that logic is not what most people go by. For example, EA is not developing Mass Effect 2, BioWare is. EA will not play a major role in the creation of the game, so that is why the developer is still BioWare. BioWare hasn't integrated into EA, working alongside all of the other EA devs. Instead, EA simply bought BioWare, but still lets them work independently. Do you really think that EA should be called the developer of games like Mass Effect 2 or Dragon Age: Origins? Or that THQ should be called the developer of the Dawn of War series and Company of Heroes? I think you might be missing the point of a developer.

 

[Christemo]

either Blizzard or THQ. THQ has made Dawn of War: Dark Crusade and Soulstorm (i hate DOW2, worst game ever) and Titan Quest, some of the best games ever IMO.

Blizzard has made WoW and Warcraft 3, both fucking awesome.

 

[Eatbrainz]

aw man nearly all of the names on the list are faves of mine so choosing just one is vitually impossible