Poll: Bioshock Infinite: good or bad?

[Okuu_Fusion]

Seems interesting... Will rent it though...

I didn't like the cartoonish "floating-in-the-air" then plummeting part of the trailer

 

[grimsprice]

Seeing as how I completely hated the poor excuse of a game that was the first one, I don't see me liking this.

Born 1994. Yep.

So because I'm 16 I can't have a valid opinion?

The first was horrible due to a number of things.

First off was the combat, Bioshock featured some truly horrible shooting mechanics. Second was the story, people go on and on about how Bioshock had such an amazing story. It focused way to much on Audio Logs than the actual story at hand, then they forced hypnotism down our throats when we met Andrew Ryan. The game was just one long arse fetch quest, then an annoying escort mission before the last boss.

See? 16 year olds can have opinions as well.

Of course 16 year olds can have an opinion. Most of them do.... his point i think is that you haven't exactly settled down out of your testosterone induced growth phase. Blame biology, not me. As such, generally, people your age tend not to perceive when someone is trying to get a complex idea across through a medium that isn't usually conducive to grand philosophizing. When people your age do pick up on it, it tends to be ignored for less... subtle aspects of a medium. In this case, you probably focus more on the gameplay and flow of a story rather than the feel or idea the game was trying to represent.

If i was to make a wild stab in the dark, i'd say you probably enjoy games more along the lines of COD-MW2, Halo, GTA4, Assassins Creed... maybe Mass Effect? things like that.

His point was to find out if your opinion of Bioshock was based on your age (which it probably is) or stupidity. Which it isn't. Don't take it as an offense, he's just looking for answers.

OT: I have high hopes that Ken Levine and Irrational games will take us on another epic journey through the bowels of human nature. What better place to do it than in the ultimate dream? A floating city? What more utopian can it possibly get? Can't wait. And i'm glad 2k realized they fucked up bioshock 2, so they gave it back to Irrational. 2012 is toooooooooo loooooooong. gar.

 

[Stickwell]

I believe it has potential.

I think they want to show us that they can still do great things without having to rely on Rapture as a setting.

Though the second BioShock was rather short, I still enjoyed it.

Hopefully this one can still be as exciting and original as the first one with out falling away from the first game.

 

[jamesworkshop]

They should have changed the theme after the first game, the second one should have RetCon as it's subtitle.
Flying city of the beginning of the 20th century sure looks like it could be interesting.

Seen a lot of people bring this up but can you point out any examples of bioshock 2 retconing anything

Retroactive continuity (often shortened to retcon) refers to the deliberate alteration of previously established facts in a work of serial fiction. A retcon is an on-the go revision of exposition material. Retcons may be carried out for a variety of reasons, such as to accommodate sequels or further derivative works in the same series, to reintroduce popular characters, to resolve chronological issues, to reboot a familiar series for modern audiences, or to simplify an excessively complex continuity structure

Nothing about the event of bioshock were rewritten, all the characters that died stayed dead
the event of bioshock were so ignored in shock 2 that it could be described as background noise.

On topic
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/08/13/the-bioshock-infinite-ken-levine-interview/

Sounds like its another riposte of some fictional book one commenter brought up
Thomas Pynchon?s Against the Day.

So im excited

 

[II2]

Seeing as how I completely hated the poor excuse of a game that was the first one, I don't see me liking this.

Born 1994. Yep.

So because I'm 16 I can't have a valid opinion?

The first was horrible due to a number of things.

First off was the combat, Bioshock featured some truly horrible shooting mechanics. Second was the story, people go on and on about how Bioshock had such an amazing story. It focused way to much on Audio Logs than the actual story at hand, then they forced hypnotism down our throats when we met Andrew Ryan. The game was just one long arse fetch quest, then an annoying escort mission before the last boss.

See? 16 year olds can have opinions as well.

Of course 16 year olds can have an opinion. Most of them do.... his point i think is that you haven't exactly settled down out of your testosterone induced growth phase. Blame biology, not me. As such, generally, people your age tend not to perceive when someone is trying to get a complex idea across through a medium that isn't usually conducive to grand philosophizing. When people your age do pick up on it, it tends to be ignored for less... subtle aspects of a medium. In this case, you probably focus more on the gameplay and flow of a story rather than the feel or idea the game was trying to represent.

If i was to make a wild stab in the dark, i'd say you probably enjoy games more along the lines of COD-MW2, Halo, GTA4, Assassins Creed... maybe Mass Effect? things like that.

His point was to find out if your opinion of Bioshock was based on your age (which it probably is) or stupidity. Which it isn't. Don't take it as an offense, he's just looking for answers.

Cheers, saved me a load of typing.

 

[science girl]

I think it will be interesting> I am a major bioshock fan and having Elizabeth as a partner might add more to the gameplay. I'm definately going to buy it and give it a fair chance any way.

 

[planet.tyler]

the game looks great, but they all do these days so it's not much to go by, as far as I'm concerned, no big daddy, no little sister and no rapture = no bioshock. They should have got ahold of a SPINE and named it independantly, the fact that they felt the need to tie it to bioshock in name suggests that they themselves don't really have much faith in it. If I do play this game it won't be because they have slapped the bioshock name on it.

 

[iseeyouthere]

I'm going to wait and see. Not going to praise or doom it.

 

[Drizzitdude]

Seeing as how I completely hated the poor excuse of a game that was the first one, I don't see me liking this.

I do not believe I have ever wanted to strike someone like this before. Anyways.



I think the gme will be good to be sure. The first one was great because of the story elements and the twists and turns the player encountered along the way all put into the amazing scenery that was rapture. Something I loved about the game was its great philosophical take on soceity and everything and the great story that was depicted as the fall of rapture.


I have my doubts that the enw one will be able to live up to the same vibe as the orignal but that is mostly due to some key changes (less creepy settings, main character talks, npcs that help in combat that sort of thing) but it defninitly looks interesting. I alos must say I find the whole steampunk aspect amazing and I am glad to see games doing more with the idea.


My only gripe about the game is a simple one, from what I have seen and heard the new 'tonics' are good only for a set amount of uses before wearing off. this makes it alot less veratile as plasmids and therefore alot less fun if I find myself always hoarding the damn things for fear Imay someday need them.

 

[C-Mag]

the game looks great, but they all do these days so it's not much to go by, as far as I'm concerned, no big daddy, no little sister and no rapture = no bioshock. They should have got ahold of a SPINE and named it independantly, the fact that they felt the need to tie it to bioshock in name suggests that they themselves don't really have much faith in it. If I do play this game it won't be because they have slapped the bioshock name on it.

ARISE YE THREAD LONG SINCE DEAD, AND HAUNT THE FORUM FROM WHENCE YOU WERE CREATED.

Goddamn man! It's two years old! At this point, creating a new thread IS productive behavior. People will look at and respond to the initial comments, but those comments were made BEFORE an additional two years of information. I can only hope this thread returns to the earth.

 

[CrazyBlaze]

It looks like its got potential, though I did note a couple of things:

Changing the scenery completely, could suggest they got a bit desperate with ideas for Rapture, so they just through in something else "Uh, what about if its in the air instead of in the sea???".

Or, it could mean that they have some vision or story to go along with this new airbourne city, or a gameplay mechanic they developed which would've been restricted in Rapture, but is perfect for a floating city.

So, theres various ways to take the change in location, could be bad, could be good, but I would say that it definately has potential as a concept, even if I'd like to have uncovered more stuff from Rapture's history. (Some fans are speculating that the floating city becomes Rapture, which while it would be neat to see its history in this way, just kind of seems too obvious to be shocking in the game.)

The skyhook is mechanic that lets you travel from platform to platform. Also it allows for a new philosophy look that you can't see in Rapture. Rapture was ment to be an example of the 'perfect' civilization gone wrong. The new city is supposed to explore the theme of patriotism gone wrong or overboard. Also it allows for a new feeling to set in. Rapture always had a dark, dank vibe going for it but you can only revisit that so often. The new city is brighter but also danger around every corner. vibe going for it. I mean a city you could fall of at anytime? Pretty scary. Sorry if this has been posted already.

 

[SoranMBane]

It's shaping up to be a fantastic-looking game. Of course there's always the possibility that something will go wrong, but for now it's one of those games that I feel I can safely assume will be good.

the game looks great, but they all do these days so it's not much to go by, as far as I'm concerned, no big daddy, no little sister and no rapture = no bioshock. They should have got ahold of a SPINE and named it independantly, the fact that they felt the need to tie it to bioshock in name suggests that they themselves don't really have much faith in it. If I do play this game it won't be because they have slapped the bioshock name on it.

But the thing is, Bioshock was never supposed to be all about Rapture, Little Sisters, Big Daddies, or any other superficial feature; it was always supposed to be about the themes of transhumanism and utopia gone wrong, which is a legacy that Infinite is looking to continue. Bioshock 2 being set in Rapture again was the start of a false trend, and it set up false expectations of what the Bioshock name is supposed to be about. They're not just trying to cash in on the Bioshock name. If anything, Bioshock: Infinite is the real sequel to the first Bioshock, especially since, unlike Bioshock 2, it's actually being made by the same team and lead designer as the first one.

Also, Y U NECRO 2 YEAR OLD THREAD???

 

[SillyBear]

Looks terrible to me, i loved Bioshock for how different it was from everyother game. To me it was insanely unique and Rapture was a great setting. I think they shoulda stopped at 2

I think they should have stopped at 1. By the time the second game rolled around Rapture had already lost it's charm.

Bioshock was a unique game for me because I don't think it's actual mechanics were all that interesting. The only thing it really hooked me on was the setting and the story. Once that wonder was gone I couldn't enjoy it.