Kungfu_Teddybear said:
I'm surprised that guy with the Bob Dylan avatar isn't here yet.
Talking about me? I am in Morocco on vacation currently, running on pre-paid 3G net, so the little sites this device can actually read, still makes me wait 6 minutes for it to load. Nevertheless, I did see the title thread and thought
"My, oh my, OP is gonna be in a heap of trouble! But nah, seems most people dig him here, so I am content
. (Also, if you are thinking of some other Bob Dylan avatared fella, this is super-awkward).
Anyhow, OT:
Anyone claiming Bob Dylan is a great singer is wrong. Anyone claiming he is even a good singer might even be wrong. The appeal of Bob Dylan has never been his voice, he knows that, we know that, everyone knows it. If somehow you go into Dylan expecting to hear an angel voice, you are gonna be sorely dissapointed (for angel voices, go to Joan Baez, seriously, her voice is the polar opposite of Bob's, in terms of skill, which makes for some VERY interesting covers). I remember on Memebase once, my sibling showed me a rather funny "Scumbag Dylan" picture (Bob with "Scumbag Steve" cap on his head, with the text "Convinces people Folk can change the world. Goes Electric") The picture was very amusing, but the comments sections was just filled with the most ignorant people... Jeez.. All of them went "OMFG HE IS SO OVERRATED, HE HAS A HORRIBLE FUCKKEN VOICE, BEST SINGER OF LAL TIEM?! LAWL". Look, no one EVER said he had a good voice. I admit that technically his voice is the equivalent of beating a cat up against the wall (though the mid-seventies is some rad-fukken shit in terms of his voice (mostly due to his amf abuse)). The appeal of Bob Dylan is what he stands for, his songwriting, his style. You listen to Bob Dylan not to get a great voice, but a great line. Every line he utters is a poem, every song he writes a psalm.
People who dislike Bob Dylan can
GO DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE *cough* *cough* erm.. I ment People who dislike Bob Dylan at the very least have to take their hats off for the guy. He has helped a lot of good causes, he has risen to fame like any other pop-star would, but he was so fucking modest about it too. Seriously, even now Bob is MASSIVELY uncomfortable with recieving any praise. Look at the recent Medal
OBAMA gave him, Bob is wearing sunglasses and just frozen, he cant handle that shit (for further viweings of Bob Dylan being modest, watch him in the 1980-coming to Sweden video, where he in the Airport is confronted by a swedish interviewer who states he is "The voice of a generation" to which he replies "says who?" (might not be Swedish, I forget sometimes).
When I said Bob knew it wasn't about his voice, he flat-out said it himself. He said that you should not be afraid of using your voice to sing or recite, no matter how weird it may sound. Oh, that quote just inspired
JIMI HENDRIX to take up singing.
All that, and Bob Dylan is still by far the best songwriter in the biz.
WITH ALL THAT SAID AND DONE, GO JOIN THE "BOB DYLAN FANCLUB" ON THE ESCAPIST, YO!
Edit: Poll is fallacious, there is no "Better than Bacon sex" option.
penguindude42 said:
That rock you are living under must be huuuuge, yo...
LetalisK said:
Holy shit, I'm seeing way more hate coming from Dylan fans than going at Dylan. I'm slightly unsettled now.
We are Bob Dylan fans. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us if you trash Dylan.
Womplord said:
His voice is utterly and totally shit, and that's why he's popular. His music is basically reading out a poem that he wrote which makes people focus on his lyrics. His lyrics are good and people focus on them when the listen. Good though his lyrics may be, there are plenty of artists just as good at songwriting and putting meaning into their songs WITHOUT having a crap voice. Bob Dylan sucks, and I think many of his big fans are somewhat pretentious.
WHY YOU LITTLE PIECE OF *** ****** OH I'M GONNA ENJOY ***** YOU ARE ***** ** ******* *cough* *cough* I mean: Bob was never, ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER popular for his voice, heh (had to add "heh", as that assumption is so wrong). The only reason Bob could get as big as he did, was because of luck. He happened to just show up at the right time. See, Bob started in the 60'ies, really. A time where young people really didn't care what your voice was like, they cared about your message, what you were saying. Bob just happened to have a set of very good messages (nevermind the fact that he also was a folk-musician, a genre where voice really doesen't make a huge difference). The reason why we love Bob is because he cares about what he sings. I remember one of the comments for "The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll" was "Anyone can sing a Bob Dylan song, but no one can care as much about it as him". I don't dig using this term, but this would be an exception, Bob is just as "real" as you can get. He is modest, he admits he is a song and dance man, he just goes on the stage and does what he wants to do, and frankly, that's a large part of the appeal of him. As I said before, if you go into a Dylan song expecting an angel voice, or even wanting one, you are gonna be sorely disappointing. People who enjoy Dylan do not do it for the technical beauty of his voice.
And claiming that we are "somewhat pretentious" is pretty doucebaggy, man. Me likin' a fella who has a voice that is not angelic or auto-tuned to sound that way makes me pretentious? No, fuck that. That generalization is so massively fucking wrong that my head cannot compute it. I mean.. Are you just sitting and thinking "Bob Dylan fan = Pretentious twat", "Queen fan = Great gal!". In fact, you are almost claiming that liking a singer for something other than his voice is "pretentious"? Or liking his voice if it isn't technically beautiful? What? Do you also claim that Journey was pretentious as shit, for not innovating the graphics scene enough, by making it realistic? Do you think it is pretentious to like Pixar movies, because they arent realistic enough? Or maybe, liking "The Snowman" is pretentious, because it isn't a technical marvel? Because that is kinda the attitude you are bringing up. I may seem pissed, and I sort of am. This is an outright attack on any greater Dylan fan. Though I don't really care about being targeted (because hey, this is the internet, happens ALL THE TIME), I just find that generalization to be so mind boggling... Liking a musician, despite there being a better musician makes you pretentious? Fuck that logic.